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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:36 PM Jun 2012

To those on the left that wanted the Supes to kill the ACA.

Hey, I know some of us closer to the Obama side of the spectrum anger you sometimes. Sometimes, people get frustrated on both sides of an argument, and truth be told, when people use "ponies" or "chill the F** out I got this" it does not help.

I am not going to do that, but what I would like to do is show you how what happened today could be used to advance the Medicare for all that we really want.

First off, the way this ruling is done, the door is open to have a "Tax" for healthcare. That is the magic word, because, as much as the right wing hates taxes, they know they cannot hold a bake sale for their Bombers. In order to kill the idea that the government can get involved in health care, they have to attack it as a Tax. Granted, we know Grover Norquist will still try to attack, but the situation is a lot more awkward for them. The bubble has burst, because the Supes ruled that yes, Healthcare IS something Uncle Sam can stick his nose in.

This paves the way for medicare for all, because, as their plummeting stocks showed, the insurance industry is going to want to save it's skin. Yes, some may think they can use this to profit, but they know, as the country gets older and sicker, they will need to "invest elsewhere" or lose their shirts. They will want to figure out something to save themselves..we can offer them, in exchange for services, a nice way to exit the business, by allowing medicare for all. They can still make money, like they do in France, Germany, Australia, by selling supplements to the government insurance, supplements people in those countries do pay for, so they can get added benefits. But in that case, the days of people dying for want of basic care could be relegated to the slag heap.

In short, momentum is on our side, and the right wing knows that their grip on the supreme court is looser than they thought. If we take advantage, we can make the days of people living or dying based on their wallet history.

Of course, it is fragile, as the mission of the GOP will be to put another scumbag on the Supremes. I know people hate the idea that this election is about keeping another conservative off the court, but it is true.

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To those on the left that wanted the Supes to kill the ACA. (Original Post) DonCoquixote Jun 2012 OP
Between Medicare and now the ruling from the Supreme Court Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #1
I like the way you think!!!!! nt nanabugg Jun 2012 #2
This is all we'll get in my lifetime. Bake Jun 2012 #3
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