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kpete

(72,010 posts)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:20 PM Jun 2012

Rand Paul: Just Because SCOTUS Says It's Constitutional, 'Doesn't Make It So'

June 28, 2012 10:00 AM
Rand Paul: Just Because SCOTUS Says It's Constitutional, 'Doesn't Make It So'

Apparently, someone was asleep during his US Government class:


"Just because a couple people on the Supreme Court declare something to be 'constitutional' does not make it so. The whole thing remains unconstitutional. While the court may have erroneously come to the conclusion that the law is allowable, it certainly does nothing to make this mandate or government takeover of our health care right," Sen. Paul said.

"Obamacare is wrong for Americans. It will destroy our health care system. This now means we fight every hour, every day until November to elect a new President and a new Senate to repeal Obamacare," he continued.


more:
http://paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=562
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Rand Paul: Just Because SCOTUS Says It's Constitutional, 'Doesn't Make It So' (Original Post) kpete Jun 2012 OP
Man that man is stupid. Kber Jun 2012 #1
Actually, sound like he is mentally ill. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #21
These fascist pigs only agree with SCOTUS when it goes their way liberal N proud Jun 2012 #2
Asshole. nt onehandle Jun 2012 #3
Dear 'Senator' Paul: Marbury v Madison. Sincerely, Richardo Richardo Jun 2012 #4
Wonder if he and his goons have been kicking any women in the head recently? NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #5
The stupid is strong with this one. Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #6
That's expected - he's essentially a libertarian el_bryanto Jun 2012 #7
he is not a libertarian wilt the stilt Jun 2012 #11
and dominionists. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #12
Pretty fine difference when it comes to economic matters. n/t el_bryanto Jun 2012 #19
He is not a Libertarian... physioex Jun 2012 #27
I agree with the decision, but the RW justices diminish ecstatic Jun 2012 #8
I agree with the concept, but I'm not in government cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #9
IMO Rand Paul slept through a lot of classes! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2012 #10
Uh, Sen. Idiot, here's a clue: Marbury v. Madison Bake Jun 2012 #13
Well jeez, I guess only YOU, Rand Paul, gets to decide on what is 'Constitutional' n2doc Jun 2012 #14
It's only Constitutional if Rand Paul says that it is. nt ladjf Jun 2012 #15
to be a u.s. senator, you should have a grip on how your country operates spanone Jun 2012 #16
Looks like somebody missed their weekly dose of Schoolhouse Rocks on Saturday Mornings. Hong Kong Cavalier Jun 2012 #17
so when are you going to secede, Rand? librechik Jun 2012 #18
Rand Paul's snot is running from his heel kicking tantrum lunatica Jun 2012 #20
Ummm...........Paul........yes it does Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2012 #22
. HarveyDarkey Jun 2012 #23
Isn't that the entire point of the Supreme Court? mattclearing Jun 2012 #24
People actually voted for this doofus? Graybeard Jun 2012 #25
Kicking to keep the ridicule coming.* JohnnyLib2 Jun 2012 #26
He's still upset about Brown v Board of Ed. NT. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #28
Well of course, I mean CLEARLY Rand and Daddy Ron are the ulitmate deciders of Constitutionality. Mr.Turnip Jun 2012 #29
The World According to Rand n/t KarenS Jun 2012 #30

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
21. Actually, sound like he is mentally ill.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jun 2012

Unable to accept reality and facts, delusional about how the world works.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
5. Wonder if he and his goons have been kicking any women in the head recently?
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jun 2012
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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
7. That's expected - he's essentially a libertarian
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:24 PM
Jun 2012

They believe that the Government does not and should not have the authority or power to do anything but national defense.

Bryant

physioex

(6,890 posts)
27. He is not a Libertarian...
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 05:09 PM
Jun 2012

He is for sale to the highest bidder. Listen to his views on same sex marriage.

ecstatic

(32,727 posts)
8. I agree with the decision, but the RW justices diminish
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jun 2012

the credibility of the court. Once they're replaced, and decisions like Citizens United are overturned, I'll feel more confident about EVERY decision they make.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
9. I agree with the concept, but I'm not in government
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:35 PM
Jun 2012

Marbury v. Madison is what it is. In that sense the Constitution is whatever five justices say it is. And that is the law.

In another sense, however, I routinely refer to certain laws the SCOTUS has upheld as being unconstitutional. That doesn't mean they are formally unconstitutional as legal precedent, but that the SCOTUS ruling is, in my view, incorrect.

Say Congress passed a law against praying in the direction of Mecca. A clear freedom of exercise violation.

And say the SCOTUS said, "Islam isn't really a religion, it's cult. And freedom of exercise doesn't apply to cults."

That decision would be wrong any way you look at it, and facially unconstitutional. It would, however, be the Constitution as is exists.


A person saying, "Outlawing prayer is unconstitutional," would, in my view, not be making an ignorant statement rebuttable by citing Marbury v. Madison.

But the SCOTUS decision would be the Constitution operationally... it would be binding precedent on other courts and other laws.


It's a tricky thing.

Anyway, as someone who believes that some SCOTUS decisions fly in the face of the Constitution I am not going to castigate someone else for holding the same view.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
13. Uh, Sen. Idiot, here's a clue: Marbury v. Madison
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jun 2012

It is DISTINCTLY the province of the Court to say WHAT THE LAW IS. So yeah, that kind of "makes it so."

You make me embarrassed to be from Kentucky, you stupid, bumbling fool.

Bake

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
14. Well jeez, I guess only YOU, Rand Paul, gets to decide on what is 'Constitutional'
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jun 2012

What a d-bag. Go ask Aqua Budda for advice, will ya?

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,573 posts)
17. Looks like somebody missed their weekly dose of Schoolhouse Rocks on Saturday Mornings.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:47 PM
Jun 2012

Cripes. Rand Paul is an idiot.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. Rand Paul's snot is running from his heel kicking tantrum
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 03:09 PM
Jun 2012

Yes Rand, it is called Obamacare. Doesn't that just twist your gut? Yes? Good.

mattclearing

(10,091 posts)
24. Isn't that the entire point of the Supreme Court?
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 04:56 PM
Jun 2012

I'm pretty sure the Constitution declares the Supreme Court the ultimate arbiter of constitutionality, not Rand Paul.

JohnnyLib2

(11,212 posts)
26. Kicking to keep the ridicule coming.*
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jun 2012

*I'm doing penance for living in KT, even if I did vote for Conway.

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
29. Well of course, I mean CLEARLY Rand and Daddy Ron are the ulitmate deciders of Constitutionality.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 05:31 PM
Jun 2012

I mean that's what the founders WANTED isn't it?

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