Will Trump and Bannon Drag Us Into Another Big Ground War? It Could Happen Sooner Than We Think

[madokie]

Our president wants to "knock the hell out of ISIS" and "take the oil"; his key adviser longs for World War III.

On Wednesday NBC News released a poll reporting that 66 percent of Americans are worried that the United States will become involved in another war. One might think that’s surprising since President Donald Trump has been famously portrayed as an old-school isolationist, an image mostly based upon his lies about not supporting the Iraq War and his adoption of the pre-World War II isolationist slogan “America First.”

As I laid out here a few weeks ago, that assumption is wrong. Trump is anything but an isolationist. He’s not much on alliances, preferring to strong-arm other nations into supporting the U.S. “for their own good.” But if they are willing to cough up some protection money, he might agree to fulfill our treaty obligations. His adoption of the phrase “America First” reflects his belief that the U.S. must be No. 1, not that it should withdraw from the world.

In other words, while Trump has no interest in perpetuating the global security system under which the world has lived since the dawn of the nuclear age, that’s not because he believes it hasn’t worked. He doesn’t know what it does, how it came to be or why it exists. He simply believes other countries are failing to pay proper respect and he aims to make sure they understand that America isn’t just great again –it’s the greatest.

This has nothing to do with American exceptionalism. Trump is happy to admit that American pretenses to moral leadership are hypocritical, and he’s openly contemptuous of anyone who believes that the U.S. should try harder to live up to its ideals. If you want to understand what Trump believes, “to the victor goes the spoils” pretty much covers it. He means it in terms of his family, which continues to merge the presidency into its company brand all over the world, and he means it in terms of the United States because we are the richest and most powerful nation on earth and we can take whatever we want.

I personally think its not just a chance but rather a plan of theirs-- madokie

http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/will-trump-and-bannon-drag-us-war

[guillaumeb]

1. Watch out Grenada.

Or perhaps the Bahamas this time.

[C_U_L8R]

2. They need a huge distraction

Or they're going to jail

[Johnny2X2X]

3. Of course they will

And they are going to eventually use nukes.

[madokie]

5. Thats what scares me more than anything

[Pachamama]

8. He used a big word at CPAC today - "Obliterate" ISIS

Guess he is planning to drop a nuke on Mosul soon or some other place in Middle East

[yallerdawg]

4. They fuck around with China...

it won't be a ground war.

[elleng]

6. Same as cheney and W,

with different 'framing.'

[Johnny2X2X]

9. Not even close

These monsters want WWIII and they'll travel in the apocalypse.

[mwooldri]

7. MIHOP/LIHOP.

Where did I hear this before? 16 years ago? Hmmm.....

[redstateblues]

10. Bannon is itching to go to war. Probably Iran

[UTUSN]

11. It's *Mexico*!1 China, Australia, Canada - too *tough*!1 & Ruskie-ville is Best Man!1

[AwakeAtLast]

12. Friend of mine

Out of the blue is going to Eastern Europe (that's all he knows) on deployment. Had one week's notice.

[bdamomma]

13. oh god, that is horrible

one weeks notice????

mobster don is destined to go to hell for all the destruction he will unleash on so many people.

[AwakeAtLast]

14. Yep

And you caught the destination, right?

[bdamomma]

17. you said

Eastern Europe, Ukraine and other Baltic states.

[AwakeAtLast]

19. That is my guess

If friend knows, they are not telling.

[bagelsforbreakfast]

15. They are already attacking America, isn't that enough for them?

[bdamomma]

18. no they want everything for themselves

it's the 1%.

[Aimee in OKC]

16. The deliberately inflammatory actions by Trump & his people are designed

as a flagrant, dramatic, stirring tool to antagonize, recruit and inspire ISIS and other extremists.

Americans' fright is because they sense that it's supposed to provoke retaliation, and very quickly at that.
. . .
And veering into conspiracy theory ... after the 'dirty bomb' attack(s) on US soil, the radioactive material will be traced to Russia, which can claim innocence by pointing to smugglers selling it to terrorists.

Oct. 2015
Smugglers Tried to Sell Nuclear Material to ISIS
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/smugglers-tried-sell-nuclear-material-isis-ap-investigation-n439851

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/moldova-nuclear-weapons-isis/409456/

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Joseph Cannon (occasionally posting at DU) thinks Chicago ...

Monday, Jan.23

I've said before that I think it will be a mini-nuke in Chicago. Trump has a building on the Chicago river -- the fourth-tallest in the world, and the tallest residential building in the world. The bottom floor, meant for commercial use but presently empty, offers plenty of room for mischief. Depending on the insurance arrangements, the building might be more profitable down than up.

Whatever hits us, it needs to be big. Only a massive shock will short-circuit this nation's natural cynicism. We know who will take the blame: Half the country hates Muslims and all of the country hates ISIS. Those within the conspiracist subculture will believe whatever nonsense Alex Jones tells them to believe, while the mainstreamers will never permit themselves to consider the "Trump diddit" theory (regardless of the actual evidence).

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com.au/2017/01/big-wedding-ii.html

(Bolding is mine.)

[Mc Mike]

21. It woul have to be a target that's a strongly Blue Dem area. That's where all the good targets are.

Odd how the nazi repugs and radical terrorists seem to have the same enemies.

Great 'insurance fire' angle from Joe, too.

[Mc Mike]

20. No doubt that is high on the 'to do' list.

Start war(s).

Wreck the gov.

Destroy the economy.

Steal everything that isn't nailed down.

Read 'The Pet Goat', instead of urgent intel threat assessments in PDBs.



I think that's the complete agenda, in no particular order. Don't need a crystal ball, here.

[Dulcinea]

22. Follow the money.

Defense contractors need wars to grow their businesses & keep their shareholders happy.

Plus, it keeps the proles occupied. See how that works? Win-win for them. Ugh.