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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,004 posts)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 02:30 PM Feb 2017

Analysis: Spicers claim there are 12, 14, 15 million people in the U.S. illegally

In response to questions about President Trump’s expansion of immigration enforcement priorities, White House press secretary Sean Spicer claimed three times that there are somewhere between 12 million and 15 million — “potentially more” — people living illegally in the United States.

During the campaign, Trump claimed that the number of unauthorized immigrants in the United States could be anywhere between 3 million and 30 million. (PolitiFact rated that Pants on Fire.) Spicer’s claim was not as outrageous but still is questionable. We reviewed the facts.

The Facts

Spicer responded to our inquiry, pointing to December 2015 testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee by former Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Director Sarah Saldaña: “Probably every illegal alien could be removed. But that’s 12 million people — or 15 million, depending on what estimate you look at. … I don’t think anybody who thinks that we can go about, rounding up people, with a $6.5 billion budget, as generous as that is, and as grateful as I am for it, believes that we can go and do that under that budget. There are reasons to make wise and smart and effective immigration priorities.”

But that 15 million figure was inconsistent with Department of Homeland Security estimates of 11 million. After the hearing, ICE played down Saldaña’s statement, saying she “was citing it only informally,” the Washington Times reported.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/analysis-spicer%e2%80%99s-claim-there-are-%e2%80%9812-14-15-million%e2%80%99-people-in-the-us-illegally/ar-AAnfb77?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=edgsp

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Analysis: Spicers claim there are 12, 14, 15 million people in the U.S. illegally (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2017 OP
Informal facts pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #1
Well his wife lied on her immigration documents and his son was an anchor baby NightWatcher Feb 2017 #2
Always has to be more, bigger, tougher.... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #3
I don't trust ICE's estimates of 11m either. It could be less, or even more. MadDAsHell Feb 2017 #4
250 million if you count non-Trump voters. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #5
I'm suspicious of nice round numbers like 12M or even 15M rickford66 Feb 2017 #6

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. Well his wife lied on her immigration documents and his son was an anchor baby
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 02:34 PM
Feb 2017

So there's two.



Ok, please don't even.

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
3. Always has to be more, bigger, tougher....
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 02:35 PM
Feb 2017

"Look at the mountains we have climbed!"

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MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
4. I don't trust ICE's estimates of 11m either. It could be less, or even more.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 02:37 PM
Feb 2017

What information are they using to even come up with these estimates?

The whole point of undocumented immigration is the person is undocumented...

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