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CleanLucre

(284 posts)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:46 AM Jun 2012

This is great. Thank you Mr. President. Good luck in November. Where are the jobs?

God forbid the Court and process orchestrated this news for this particular time. People are hurting. People need health care. People need JOBS.

So, this announcement is bittersweet... to American people who once had jobs, paid for health insurance coverage, which they may not have been able to afford to actually USE ... and that's gone. Health issues don't go away when the job and insurance does.

Unemployment benefits are gone. COBRA is gone. Hope is gone. Cities are going bankrupt. The nation is waiting for the plug to be pulled on the debt held by other countries.

Too Little Too Late and Lesser of Evils aren't working. People are dying. The nation is dying.

This is seen by some as a great achievement for the administration and party and by others as a benefit to private insurers ... and a tax on poor people.

The discouragement is understandable!!

Congratulations. Can we now have a JOBS PROGRAM? How about a TAX ON ALL CORPORATIONS. Those who choose to employ American citizens on American shores will receive an exemption. The funds collected by government can go toward a NATIONAL JOBS PROGRAM that will provide infrastructure and community aid. How about GARDENS IN THE SCHOOLS that can EMPLOY AND FEED AND EDUCATE PEOPLE AND KEEP THEM HEALTHY.

Feeding corporate profits doesn't do that.

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This is great. Thank you Mr. President. Good luck in November. Where are the jobs? (Original Post) CleanLucre Jun 2012 OP
You do know that the repukes shot down the job bills President Obama tried to get? n/t cynatnite Jun 2012 #1
This guy is jonesing for pizza. Swede Jun 2012 #3
Yeah, it seems so. n/t cynatnite Jun 2012 #8
That's very nice CleanLucre Jun 2012 #16
you should be aware that there are a plethora of jobs bilsl that the republican house refuses to dionysus Jun 2012 #64
+1...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #23
More TEOTWAWKI. Yes, GOP/Reaganomics is dying. Didn't work. freshwest Jun 2012 #79
+1 Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #9
Stuck in the House BeyondGeography Jun 2012 #2
Huh.... Spazito Jun 2012 #4
..... obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #42
Ask the House of Representatives WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #5
Oh, don't, he's on a roll... freshwest Jun 2012 #76
The Germans? Hippo_Tron Jun 2012 #90
Which Germans? I missed that part. Wait, here they are: freshwest Jun 2012 #92
Do you pay any attention? Do you know that the GOP has shot down everything WI_DEM Jun 2012 #6
Yes CleanLucre Jun 2012 #17
Jobs are sitting on Boehner's desk, waiting to be passed while he wastes time on a jillan Jun 2012 #7
Let's call Congress Right NOW!! CleanLucre Jun 2012 #19
Don't forget to save the fetuses - they have higher priority than jobs LynneSin Jun 2012 #35
Thank you for letting POTUS enjoy 3 seconds of victory before criticizing him once again. n/t zappaman Jun 2012 #10
Bittersweet CleanLucre Jun 2012 #14
There is an agreement between both Chambers about the Transportation Bill BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #26
Selective hearing obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #45
They are in your ass. Schema Thing Jun 2012 #11
oh no CleanLucre Jun 2012 #24
yeah and it's all Obama's fault maddezmom Jun 2012 #12
The Transportation bill is due for a vote by Saturday BumRushDaShow Jun 2012 #13
thank you for one comment CleanLucre Jun 2012 #15
and I'm sure if the GOP blocks it you will consider that Obama's fault too? WI_DEM Jun 2012 #18
I congratulated the President. Don't try that $%&@ CleanLucre Jun 2012 #36
hmmmmm ... lillypaddle Jun 2012 #65
This will be a very important vote Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #28
According to Luke Russert, it will positively pass BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #30
You do recognize there's a congress in the US government right? uponit7771 Jun 2012 #20
you mean the one CleanLucre Jun 2012 #21
No one hires basement dwellers - you have to go LOOK for the jobs. Pathwalker Jun 2012 #22
that's great CleanLucre Jun 2012 #25
Yes. I live in the country, surrounded by retirees, who all Pathwalker Jun 2012 #29
that's great CleanLucre Jun 2012 #31
Ask the Republicans. They block Jobs Bills and are busy Sabotaging the economy. emulatorloo Jun 2012 #27
How about that corporate tax idea? CleanLucre Jun 2012 #32
How about holding the republiCONS responsible... SalviaBlue Jun 2012 #81
President has offered half a dozen different programs to create jobs but... LynneSin Jun 2012 #33
I hope Romney will return us to the good 'ol Bush days progree Jun 2012 #34
Good statistics CleanLucre Jun 2012 #38
Excellent statistics I think, considering Congress has been blocking everything he's trying to do. progree Jun 2012 #40
wrong CleanLucre Jun 2012 #47
"Thank you Mr. President. Good luck in November. Where are the jobs?" SalviaBlue Jun 2012 #83
That's possible CleanLucre Jun 2012 #85
There would be a lot more people in the job fair line if 4.3 million jobs had not been created progree Jun 2012 #60
Yeah, I know!! klook Jun 2012 #37
Holy flying ****! Our partisan congress has done nothing but OBSTRUCT! MatthewStLouis Jun 2012 #39
Who said anything about "blame everything on one man"? CleanLucre Jun 2012 #43
Enjoy your stay. Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #41
BS CleanLucre Jun 2012 #46
The kids aren't to be employed under Let's Move. Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #48
That's not what I said CleanLucre Jun 2012 #50
Got an itch, do ya?? cliffordu Jun 2012 #44
Yes indeed it appears the OP does HangOnKids Jun 2012 #58
Yes, we do have a few faithful reporters... freshwest Jun 2012 #77
This will help the economy treestar Jun 2012 #49
We'll see if it does CleanLucre Jun 2012 #51
FYI - there was more good job news today, buried under the SCOTUS headlines BBGC Jun 2012 #52
great talking points CleanLucre Jun 2012 #55
The House Rethugs will never pass a jobs bill. DCBob Jun 2012 #53
ok CleanLucre Jun 2012 #56
Replace the teabaggers in congress nt ecstatic Jun 2012 #54
More jobs have been created under Obama in 3 years than Bush in 8. tabatha Jun 2012 #57
Lots of Job statistics with official sources progree Jun 2012 #59
I don't think this particular poster's interested in "statistics". They don't fit the script! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #82
Why not ask that question of this slacker Republican Congress? Skidmore Jun 2012 #61
why don't you ask the fucking republicans in congress, that's how they stole the house in 2010 spanone Jun 2012 #62
you mean those tons of job programs bills the house won't even bring to a vote? try again... dionysus Jun 2012 #63
How do we GET ALL THOSE JOBS BILLS MOVING? CleanLucre Jun 2012 #66
Maybe you should try answering your own question. We'd love to know n/t progree Jun 2012 #67
maybe we could collect CleanLucre Jun 2012 #68
Wasn't a snotty comment. We're all wondering what you propose to do besides waste people's time progree Jun 2012 #69
"we're all" CleanLucre Jun 2012 #70
You desperately need a mirror. And your OP is one big bashfest and whinefest about Obama. progree Jun 2012 #72
No it's not CleanLucre Jun 2012 #74
Sure seems so, and judging from the many other comments, they took it that way too.... progree Jun 2012 #91
Still waiting for your suggestion. And waiting... and waiting... progree Jun 2012 #73
no you're not CleanLucre Jun 2012 #75
No, just wondering why you posted the OP whinefest / bashfest in the first place. progree Jun 2012 #89
You should be asking Boner, after all B Calm Jun 2012 #71
One day demwing Jun 2012 #78
Where are the jobs? Ask your republiCON representatives. SalviaBlue Jun 2012 #80
You do understand Pres Obama has been trying to get the Republican Congress to pass glowing Jun 2012 #84
Maybe you're right CleanLucre Jun 2012 #88
uh huh blogslut Jun 2012 #86
FILTHY LUCRE (is your name a play on this old jabber?) Sheepshank Jun 2012 #87
Satisfied now? bluestateguy Jul 2015 #93

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
64. you should be aware that there are a plethora of jobs bilsl that the republican house refuses to
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:38 AM
Jun 2012

even bring to a vote...

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
6. Do you pay any attention? Do you know that the GOP has shot down everything
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:50 AM
Jun 2012

since they came into power that Obama has tried to do on jobs. Where is your contempt for them?

 

CleanLucre

(284 posts)
17. Yes
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jun 2012

Almost included a line about how Repubs have made sure nothing got done so they can claim nothing got done, but this got done, so ...

Actually hoped someone would see the positive and the LOGIC applied to same sort of Opt Out Tax on corporations to improve the nations health.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
7. Jobs are sitting on Boehner's desk, waiting to be passed while he wastes time on a
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:50 AM
Jun 2012

fake scandal, and try to overturn the Supreme Court.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
26. There is an agreement between both Chambers about the Transportation Bill
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:09 PM
Jun 2012

that they will vote on before the weekend. This will create 3 MILLION jobs. You didn't hear that?

BumRushDaShow

(129,341 posts)
13. The Transportation bill is due for a vote by Saturday
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jun 2012

and if that passes and is signed, many many construction jobs come with that.

 

CleanLucre

(284 posts)
36. I congratulated the President. Don't try that $%&@
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jun 2012



Let's talk about income so people can benefit from this decision and opt in to health care.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
30. According to Luke Russert, it will positively pass
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:10 PM
Jun 2012

opening up 3 million jobs. He was positive about it. I believe he said as much on Martin Bashir's show yesterday.

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
22. No one hires basement dwellers - you have to go LOOK for the jobs.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:03 PM
Jun 2012

And don't bother telling me they're not out there - my husband WAS unem[loyed for 14 months. Now, he's got a job - with benefits.

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
29. Yes. I live in the country, surrounded by retirees, who all
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:10 PM
Jun 2012

have medicare. I can now get insurance, since they can no longer deny the MILLIONS of us with pre-existing conditions. Thank you for your 'concern'.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
33. President has offered half a dozen different programs to create jobs but...
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:14 PM
Jun 2012

the house controlled by the GOP won't even bother putting them to a vote.

progree

(10,911 posts)
34. I hope Romney will return us to the good 'ol Bush days
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:14 PM
Jun 2012
{Sarcasm Alert} Look at the pathetic job growth under "Oblamer".

* Under "Obuhmuh" there has been only 27 straight months of private sector job growth.

* Only 2.5 million payroll jobs have been created under Obama since June 2009 (that's when the recession ended according to the NBER, and only 5 months since Obama took office) (thru May 2012 with April and May preliminary) . Bush created 1.1 million payroll jobs in his entire 8 year presidency

* Only 3.1 million private sector jobs were created under Obama since June 2009 (contrast that to 0.7 million private sector jobs lost during the Bush presidency)

As for Bush's record, again, of course, he was doing everything he could to reverse Jimmy Carter's ruinous policies, but them there "Demtards" in Congress were keeping him from doing it. I'm sure Romney will get that straightened out, after all he had the 47th best job creation record as governor of Massachusetts (proving that its possible to do worse, he wasn't 50th you know).

Oh, and the business community is paralyzed by uncertainty about what the next Kenyan socialist edict will befall them. When Bush left office and Obama took office, the S&P 500 was 850. As of noon ET 6/28/12, it is 1315, up a pathetic 55%, and it took over 3 years of "Obummer" policies to make even that small pathetic gain. (That used to be the criteria for a roaring secular bull market, but that was then, this is now, doncha know). Now its true, Bush inherited an S&P 500 of 1343, and left office with it at 850 -- a 37% decline. But that was not for lack of business and investor confidence with Bush, but rather the effects of Carter's Community Reinvestment Act.

S&P 500: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EGSPC+Historical+Prices
Payroll Jobs: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001
Private Sector Employment: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001

 

CleanLucre

(284 posts)
38. Good statistics
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:20 PM
Jun 2012

A job fair this week had a line of hundreds of people waiting to get in all day. They didn't hear this great news.

progree

(10,911 posts)
40. Excellent statistics I think, considering Congress has been blocking everything he's trying to do.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:26 PM
Jun 2012

You are expecting "Obuhmuh" to reverse 8 years of ruinous Republican policies in just 3 1/2 years with no Republican cooperation? Good luck.

SalviaBlue

(2,917 posts)
83. "Thank you Mr. President. Good luck in November. Where are the jobs?"
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:06 PM
Jun 2012

You may want to reword your OP... it indicates that you are asking Mr. President where the jobs are.

Maybe its a grammatical error.

 

CleanLucre

(284 posts)
85. That's possible
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:22 PM
Jun 2012

The OP addressed him at a moment of leadership as figurehead for more reform, not a whipping boy. Sorry too many choose to take it that way. And ignore what needs to be done to get those jobs bills moving.

progree

(10,911 posts)
60. There would be a lot more people in the job fair line if 4.3 million jobs had not been created
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:31 AM
Jun 2012
A job fair this week had a line of hundreds of people waiting to get in all day. They didn't hear this great news.


There would be a lot more people in the job fair line if 4.3 million jobs had not been created in the last 27 months.

{#} Job Loss and Creation - Payroll Jobs

# Payroll Jobs: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001
# Monthly change of above: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
# . . Hint: to see both of the above two together on the same page, go to http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001 and click on the "More Formatting Options" link in the upper right and check the "Original Data Value" and the "1-Month Net Change" checkboxes and click the "Retrieve Data" button halfway down the page on the left
# Private Sector Payroll Employment: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001
# Monthly change of above: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001?output_view=net_1mth
# . . Hint: to see both of the above two together on the same page, go to http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001
and click on the "More Formatting Options" link in the upper right and check the "Original Data Value" and the "1-Month Net Change" checkboxes and click the "Retrieve Data" button halfway down the page on the left

Factoids:
# Under Obama there have been 27 straight months of private sector job growth, totaling 4.3 million jobs (thru May 2012 with April and May preliminary)
# The economy Bush handed to Obama was losing 760,000 jobs a month (the average of the last 3 months of the Bush presidency)
# 2.5 million payroll jobs have been created under Obama since June 2009 (that's when the recession ended according to the NBER (nber.org, the official arbiter of when the economic turning points occur), and only 5 months since Obama took office) (thru May 2012 with April and May preliminary) . Bush only created 1.1 million payroll jobs in his entire 8 year presidency
# 3.0 million private sector jobs were created under Obama since June 2009 (thru May 2012 with April and May preliminary) (contrast that to Bush destroying 0.7 million private sector jobs during his presidency)
# Bush's record: created 1.1 million payroll jobs - by creating 1.8 million government jobs and destroying 0.7 million private sector jobs. ( the actual numbers are, in thousands: 1,080, 1,753, 0,673 ). Yes, it is ironic that a supposed "small government conservative" ended up creating government jobs and destroying private sector jobs.
# The Clinton economy created 22.7 million payroll jobs of which 20.8 million were in the private sector

klook

(12,164 posts)
37. Yeah, I know!!
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jun 2012

How come the president, with all his Kenyan Messiah superpowers, hasn't just gone barging into Congress and overturned the money-changers' tables?

MatthewStLouis

(904 posts)
39. Holy flying ****! Our partisan congress has done nothing but OBSTRUCT!
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jun 2012

It's easy to try to blame everything on one man. It takes a thinking brain to remember that congress has been no help whatsoever in passing a decent jobs plan. All they want is Obama to fail, at the expense of the economy.

Any economist worth his salt will tell you; we need massive infrastructure spending yesterday!

 

CleanLucre

(284 posts)
43. Who said anything about "blame everything on one man"?
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:27 PM
Jun 2012

That's stupid.

Yes "Our partisan congress has done nothing but OBSTRUCT!" what can we do about it?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
41. Enjoy your stay.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:27 PM
Jun 2012

Somehow I get the feeling you don't give two shits about the unemployed seeking jobs.

Like the Newt Gingrich idea about employing school kids as gardeners, though.

Maybe they can mow the lawn and shovel snow to pay their keep, too, huh?

 

CleanLucre

(284 posts)
46. BS
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:31 PM
Jun 2012

don't trip on your assumptions. And FYI there is a lot of community support and benefit for such urban gardening programs including in the schools and BY THE FIRST LADY.

I won't make assumptions about you. Your smugness speaks for itself.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
48. The kids aren't to be employed under Let's Move.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jun 2012

It is a volunteer effort with public subsidies and support, not employees.

Get it right before you blabber on so.

Tick, tock.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
49. This will help the economy
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:41 PM
Jun 2012

Creating a demand for healthcare, which people did not have before.

And help with health care for people who don't have jobs.

BBGC

(61 posts)
52. FYI - there was more good job news today, buried under the SCOTUS headlines
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:05 PM
Jun 2012

The employment situation is getting better, however, the president can not fix the disaster of 8 years of bush in just 4 years. Bush did more damage to the economy than any president has dreamed of in the past several decades.

I am incredibly impressed at the progress the president has made considering how much the republicans and their corporate friends are doing in order to sabotage him.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
53. The House Rethugs will never pass a jobs bill.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:09 PM
Jun 2012

We have to regain the majority in Nov then we can do something substantial.

progree

(10,911 posts)
59. Lots of Job statistics with official sources
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jun 2012
{#} Job Loss and Creation - Payroll Jobs

# Payroll Jobs: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001
# Monthly change of above: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
# . . Hint: to see both of the above two together on the same page, go to http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001 and click on the "More Formatting Options" link in the upper right and check the "Original Data Value" and the "1-Month Net Change" checkboxes and click the "Retrieve Data" button halfway down the page on the left
# Private Sector Payroll Employment: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001
# Monthly change of above: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001?output_view=net_1mth
# . . Hint: to see both of the above two together on the same page, go to http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001
and click on the "More Formatting Options" link in the upper right and check the "Original Data Value" and the "1-Month Net Change" checkboxes and click the "Retrieve Data" button halfway down the page on the left

Factoids:
# Under Obama there have been 27 straight months of private sector job growth, totaling 4.3 million jobs (thru May 2012 with April and May preliminary)
# The economy Bush handed to Obama was losing 760,000 jobs a month (the average of the last 3 months of the Bush presidency)
# 2.5 million payroll jobs have been created under Obama since June 2009 (that's when the recession ended according to the NBER, and only 5 months since Obama took office) (thru May 2012 with April and May preliminary) . Bush only created 1.1 million payroll jobs in his entire 8 year presidency
# 3.0 million private sector jobs were created under Obama since June 2009 (thru May 2012 with April and May preliminary) (contrast that to Bush destroying 0.7 million private sector jobs during his presidency)
# Bush's record: created 1.1 million payroll jobs - by creating 1.8 million government jobs and destroying 0.7 million private sector jobs. ( the actual numbers are, in thousands: 1,080, 1,753, 0,673 ). Yes, it is ironic that a supposed "small government conservative" ended up creating government jobs and destroying private sector jobs.
# The Clinton economy created 22.7 million payroll jobs of which 20.8 million were in the private sector

{#} Job Loss and Creation - Unemployment Rate, Labor Force Participation Rate

# Unemployment Rate, from 1948 on: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
# Labor Force Participation Rate from 1948 on: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
(on both of the above, you can change the "From" and "To" dates to whatever you want at the top center pulldown boxes)

# Unemployment rate, seas adjusted
(All values are January unemployment rates, specifically Jan 1989, Jan 1993, Jan 2001, Jan 2009), with the exception of the current unemployment rate under Obama. You don't want to show the Obama unemployment rate when arguing with a greed-banger).
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"] Bush I: 5.4% to 7.3%, Change= + 1.9%
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"] Clinton: 7.3% to 4.2%, Change= - 3.1%
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"] Bush II: 4.2% to 7.7%, Change= + 3.5%
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"] Obama: 7.7% to 8.2%, Change= + 0.5% (the last is the May unemployment rate)
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"] beg.6/09: 9.5% to 8.2%, Change= - 1.3% (beginning June 2009)
[div style="display:inline; font-size:1.07em; font-family:monospace; white-space:pre;"] (June 2009, just 5 months after Obama took office, is when the recession ended)

# Under Bush II, the unemployment rate rose by 3.5 pp (percentage points) while the Civilian Labor Force Participation rate fell 1.5 pp: from 67.2% to 65.7% (had the participation rate stayed the same, the unemployment rate would have risen even further). Contrast that to Clinton, where the unemployment rate dropped 3.1 pp while the Civilian Labor Force Participation rate rose by 1.0 pp. Secret information: Under Obama through May 2012 the unemployment rate rose 0.5 pp while the civilian labor force participation rate fell 1.9 pp, from 65.7% to 63.8%

{#} Job Loss and Creation - Unemployment Insurance Claims

# Unemployment insurance initial claims: http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/unemploy/claims.asp

# It peaked at 667,000 initial claims 3/28/09 (2 months after Obama took office) and since then it has shown a steady improvement.

# Myth: those who have exhausted their unemployment insurance benefits are not counted as unemployed. If they were counted, the official unemployment rate would be much higher (you often hear this claim from the RepubliCONS when a Democratic president is in the White House, and vice versa).

# Fact: the count of the unemployed and the unemployment rate is not a count of those receiving unemployment benefits, nor is unemployment benefit receiver status factored at all into any of the official unemployment rate statistics (U3, U4, U5, U6, etc.). Rather, the unemployment rate is based on a a survey of 60,000 households chosen at random. See: http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm or Google: "Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey"


Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
61. Why not ask that question of this slacker Republican Congress?
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:35 AM
Jun 2012

Teabagger Republicans in conjunction with the firmly entrenched bought and paid for old guard, like McConnell, have firmly obstructed any attempts to move legislation forward in that area. Hope is gone, my ass. Change Congress in November.

 

CleanLucre

(284 posts)
66. How do we GET ALL THOSE JOBS BILLS MOVING?
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:16 AM
Jun 2012

Thank you for the great comments. So what next? What would it take to MAKE our side of the aisle get those things done? Bragging about them "sitting there" doesnt help

 

CleanLucre

(284 posts)
68. maybe we could collect
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:17 AM
Jun 2012

all the snotty comments and send a big bag of goo to grease the wheels of gubmint

progree

(10,911 posts)
69. Wasn't a snotty comment. We're all wondering what you propose to do besides waste people's time
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jun 2012

whining and bashing Obama for not creating more than 4.3 million jobs in the last 27 months (as if he didn't try to do more). And be sure to include all your snotty comments in that big bag of goo.

 

CleanLucre

(284 posts)
70. "we're all"
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jun 2012

"And be sure to include all your snotty comments in that big bag of goo."
you need a mirror


No one "bashed" Obama. Don't be so ______up.

progree

(10,911 posts)
72. You desperately need a mirror. And your OP is one big bashfest and whinefest about Obama.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:54 PM
Jun 2012
"And be sure to include all your snotty comments in that big bag of goo."
you need a mirror
No one "bashed" Obama. Don't be so ______up.

progree

(10,911 posts)
91. Sure seems so, and judging from the many other comments, they took it that way too....
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:40 PM
Jun 2012

"Where's the jobs, Mr. President" is what I read on comments by right-wingers to news articles at places like news.yahoo.com so I get a little upset reading that **** here.

Thank you Mr. President. Good luck in November. Where are the jobs?

Too Little Too Late and Lesser of Evils aren't working.

Congratulations. Can we now have a JOBS PROGRAM?


progree

(10,911 posts)
73. Still waiting for your suggestion. And waiting... and waiting...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jun 2012

Title: How do we GET ALL THOSE JOBS BILLS MOVING?

Thank you for the great comments. So what next? What would it take to MAKE our side of the aisle get those things done? Bragging about them "sitting there" doesnt help


and nobody is "bragging" about them sitting there.

Don't be so tardy.

progree

(10,911 posts)
89. No, just wondering why you posted the OP whinefest / bashfest in the first place.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:27 PM
Jun 2012
no you're not.
you're just stirring


What do you expect Obama to do, given that he is president, not a King? (By now you've been informed that the House is in Republican hands and the Senate is far short of a filibuster proof majority).
 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
71. You should be asking Boner, after all
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 12:37 PM
Jun 2012

they did say before the last election to vote for republicans because new jobs was their number 1 priority and they would focus on it like a lazer.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
78. One day
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:52 PM
Jun 2012

that's all you gave one of the most historic victories of any modern President...

What the hell do you think an HCR loss would have done to Obama's chances at re-election?

What the hell would a Mitt Romney presidency done to promote any of the progressive or populist issues you included in you post?

What the hell were you doing while Obama put forward a comprehensive jobs bill, which the House killed?




 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
84. You do understand Pres Obama has been trying to get the Republican Congress to pass
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:09 PM
Jun 2012

a job's package for a long while now, don't you? They refuse to even consider a vote on a job's package. If the economy sucks, they believe they can win the White House back... They refuse to put the country above politics. Since Pres. Obama won in 2008, the Republicans have been doing everything in their power to stop the President from succeeding... In spite of their evil ways, the economy is sluggishly improving. Despite all the TeaBagging governors and state politicians laying off massive amounts of local and state workers because of budget shortfalls, the private sector seems to be improving in some areas.

With the health care initiative in place, states are going to get some extra help with medicaid funding and will have to hire people to implement the state's plans to comply with the ACA. If we can get a Democratic Congress and Senate again in 2012, we could get a jobs package passed and start building up our infrastructure, investing in technology (green especially), give the younger generation a chance of leaving college without huge sums of loans strapped to their backs, hopefully a progressive tax structure with the richest Americans paying more of their millions and billions back into the system to shore up the debts incurred by the Bush admin reign of terror, have a chance to pass another stimulus bill that would help the state governments fill in their budget shortfalls so that we don't have to lose more teachers, firemen, and police to lay offs. The last stimulus is done spending, and in order to get it passed, 1/2 of the stimulus ended up being tax deductions which isn't the best way to stimulate anything.

If you stick around long enough, you may learn a few things. Then you won't sound like a Fox News talking point.

 

CleanLucre

(284 posts)
88. Maybe you're right
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:28 PM
Jun 2012

it sounds too simple minded to worry thinking of paying a tax and being exempted for being able to afford buying insurance, to those who have no income and not a lot of hope left for the near future.

The nasty voices here all seem pretty comfortable. Thank you for your comment.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
87. FILTHY LUCRE (is your name a play on this old jabber?)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:28 PM
Jun 2012

Not letting your selective memories, harsh my mellow.

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