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packman

(16,296 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:01 PM Feb 2017

Driving the emotional dagger deeper - Fetal Funerals

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".... Under the proposed law(Indiana, Texas,Mississippi, Ohio for example) , providers would have to enter into a relationship with a funeral home. Every time an abortion or miscarriage occurred in a facility, they'd need to obtain a burial transit permit for the fetal tissue. Each patient, having just undergone an abortion procedure or suffered through a miscarriage, could be required to decide whether the fetus will be buried or cremated. And then someone would have to pay for it.

“I don't think [lawmakers are] considering—or don't care about—some of the unintended consequences of this.”

One of the most troubling parts of fetal disposition laws is that no one is really sure how they'd function. Collecting fetal tissue in order to cremate or bury it is not really an easy process, especially considering that 23 percent of non-hospital abortions in America occur by medication abortion, in which women typically abort at home after taking a pill in the presence of their provider, or that women can experience miscarriages at home (and that as many as 20 percent of pregnancies end in miscarriage).

The evil nature of such laws stuns one.

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/fetus-funerals-the-dystopian-new-turn-in-the-fight-against-abortion-rights
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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. It's far past time to outlaw masturbation.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:04 PM
Feb 2017

I know, that makes no sense. I just want to control men for a bit.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
2. It makes sense
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:14 PM
Feb 2017

But there is such a double standard. Men can have sex for pleasure, women are told we are supposed to have sex for reproductive purposes. It's absolute bullshit but that message is still perpetuated. No one says anything about a man's wasted seed.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
11. Or at least require a separate funeral and cemetery burial for each
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 05:08 PM
Feb 2017

individual sperm. Anyone can see that life begins at

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
3. This stuff
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:15 PM
Feb 2017

Pisses me off. The unnecessary cruelty. They are sadistic and get off on hurting and controlling women.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
4. So when a man violently beats the crap out of a woman
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:16 PM
Feb 2017

and causes her to have a miscarriage she is expected to pay for the funeral of the fetus he caused her to lose? If a woman gets into an accident and it causes her to miscarry she has to pay for a funeral? Does this mean that if a pregnant woman gets killed that the husband has to pay for two separate funerals? I like the idea that if a man masturbates that he needs to pay for a funeral because that would only be fair. Maybe every sexual act that does not result in pregnancy should be required to have a funeral but of course it would never be the mans fault.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
6. I like the idea that if a man masturbates that he needs to pay for a funeral ...
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:22 PM
Feb 2017

Let's see - being conservative, average ejaculation 1,500,000 sperm at (again being conservative) $1/per sperm -



Now that would clear up a lot of acme and hairy palms

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
7. This is beyond sad and sickening.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:23 PM
Feb 2017

I had two tubal pregnancies, had to go through surgeries for both (the first one I had a C-section like incision, the second one was much easier but still painful). In the midst of the physical and emotional pain, if someone from the hospital told me I would have to do this i would have not been able to handle it. BUT, in the years since then, having heard about what they can do with fetal tissue to help cure other diseases, THAT I could have gone for. It would have been comforting and healing to know my loss could have helped someone else down the line.

They want to OVER regulate what is a personal medical issue and DEREGULATE things like companies destroying the planet. We could not be in a more backward place right now.

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
14. As someone who has had many spontaneous abortions (i.e. miscarriages) I pray hellfire on these
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 05:21 PM
Feb 2017

people.

(Too bad I don't actually believe in hellfire).

What happens between a woman and the byproducts of her body is HER BUSINESS AND NO ONE ELSE'S!!

Anyone who disagrees is welcome to KMA.



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