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Conservative so-called "Christians" (Original Post) CousinIT Feb 2017 OP
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #1
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Feb 2017 #2
Indeed? DFW Feb 2017 #3
If they aren't Christian, then what are they? Mariana Feb 2017 #4
Matter of opinion I suppose. Jimmy Carter is one of the few ACTUAL Christians CousinIT Feb 2017 #5
It does have ramifications though. I'm a Christian myself, but this argument el_bryanto Feb 2017 #6
So if they're not Christian, they must be something else. Mariana Feb 2017 #8
Republicans. nt raccoon Feb 2017 #9
They are Bettie Feb 2017 #7
Assholes. Hypocritical fake crischins. we can do it Feb 2017 #11
A special type of Christian. Crunchy Frog Feb 2017 #12
The Evangelical and you all "others" suck kind - they love Trump NotThisTime Feb 2017 #13
They ARE Christians, BUT... MicaelS Feb 2017 #14
"Be not like the hypocrites!" - Jesus Initech Feb 2017 #10

DFW

(54,437 posts)
3. Indeed?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 04:24 AM
Feb 2017

In my experience. American "conservative Christians" are in fact rarely conservative OR Christian.

Oh, they all go to church on Sunday--in the South, where I was born, that is usually a social exercise rather than a spiritual act. Social intrigue, jealousy and meanness take precedence over spirituality, charity and benevolence. But like the old saying goes: going inside a church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going inside a garage makes you a car.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
4. If they aren't Christian, then what are they?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:48 AM
Feb 2017

Are they followers of some other religion? Atheists? Something else?

I suspect most of the people you're talking about sincerely believe Jesus was the son of God, died and was resurrected, and forgives their sins. Their behavior leaves plenty to be desired, to be sure. Perhaps that makes them bad Christians, but it doesn't make them non-Christians.

CousinIT

(9,257 posts)
5. Matter of opinion I suppose. Jimmy Carter is one of the few ACTUAL Christians
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:28 AM
Feb 2017

I know of in political American life. Perhaps Obama too. But there are a few. VERY few. The rest are pretentious hypocrites and anything *but* "Christian" just IMO (and probably quite a few others).

Unfortunately, they earned their reputation, whether they like it or not.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
6. It does have ramifications though. I'm a Christian myself, but this argument
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:33 AM
Feb 2017

gets close to the No True Scotsman fallacy. It's particularly problematic when someone behaving in what you (and I) might consider unchristian behavior states that they are doing what they are doing to live up to their Christian ideals.

Bryant

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
7. They are
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:37 AM
Feb 2017

Lutherans, Baptists, Catholics, etc.

But they do not follow the words of Christ.

Boy that makes my right wing evangelical relatives and in-laws mad, but I will not ever call them Christians again and I correct them (yeah, it's obnoxious) when they call themselves that.

NotThisTime

(3,657 posts)
13. The Evangelical and you all "others" suck kind - they love Trump
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 11:41 PM
Feb 2017

He's bringing in the last days I hear, nutjobs...

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
14. They ARE Christians, BUT...
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 11:57 PM
Feb 2017

They are obsessed about Atheism, Abortion, Feminism and LGBT people, and the Old Testament. They are Fundamentalists, and as such have a great deal in common with Fundamentalist Muslims and Jews. Despite the fact they will swear up and down, they have nothing in common and constantly rant about Sharia Law.

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