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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:32 AM Jun 2012

These five people just saved millions of Americans

BREAKING: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate As A Tax

By Igor Volsky

The Supreme Court has upheld the individual mandate in Obamacare, paving the way for full implementation of the law in the states and ensuring that millions of uninsured Americans haves access to affordable coverage. The court upheld the provision as a tax. The Medicaid expansion is limited, but not invalidated, the court found. In short: “the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government’s power to terminate states’ Medicaid funds is narrowly read.” Roberts joined Sotomayor, Breyer, Ginsburg, and Kagan in the 5 to 4 decision. Kennedy sided with the conservatives.



http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/06/28/507940/breaking-supreme-court-upholds-individual-mandate-as-a-tax/


Affordable Care Act upheld



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1103888/-Affordable-Care-Act-upheld

Reminder:

What's at stake in today's Obamacare decision

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  • If you're employed, and insured, you'll probably lose the free preventative care services you've enjoyed since last year. Some 54 million people took advantage of the physical exams, cancer screenings, flu shots, child immunizations, etc. that the law provides for, with no co-pay.

  • If you're a young adult and don't have coverage through school or work, you might still be on your parents' health insurance plan, thanks to the ACA. Say good-bye to that.

  • If you're a parent with a child with a serious illness, your child could once again be denied coverage because of the illness. One of the first provisions of the Act outlawed denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions. That'll be gone.

  • If you're a senior and fall in the "donut hole," the coverage gap in which many seniors pay for their drugs out of pocket, get ready to start spending again, because the gap is going to open up again.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1103719/-What-s-at-stake-in-today-s-Obamacare-decision
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These five people just saved millions of Americans (Original Post) ProSense Jun 2012 OP
Proud to be the first rec! NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #1
Thanks ProSense Jun 2012 #2
Roberts was probably afraid to go against it. His image would be dust if he had and asjr Jun 2012 #3
He was doing it to protect the GOP LynneSin Jun 2012 #13
DU rec...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #4
Let us hope this works out for the best. Laelth Jun 2012 #5
Well, ProSense Jun 2012 #6
I know. I admire your fastidious devotion to the President. Laelth Jun 2012 #8
Right, because ProSense Jun 2012 #11
I don't give a rat's ass whose plan it is. It will make medical insurance affordable for me again kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #7
I am glad that this law will help you. Laelth Jun 2012 #9
So what if it enriches them treestar Jun 2012 #12
It is a tax Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #10
"These 5 People" Obama Would Like To Thank You For This iloveObama12 Jun 2012 #14

asjr

(10,479 posts)
3. Roberts was probably afraid to go against it. His image would be dust if he had and
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jun 2012

I don't think he could have survived that. The others don't give a hoot.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
13. He was doing it to protect the GOP
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jun 2012

Better they keep the 'boogieman Obamacare' alive then kicking millions of people out of their insurance and affordable prescription plans.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
5. Let us hope this works out for the best.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:57 AM
Jun 2012

I never thought I'd see Democrats celebrating the ascendancy of a Republican plan spawned by the Heritage Foundation, but wonders never cease.

Sigh.

-Laelth

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Well,
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:04 AM
Jun 2012

"I never thought I'd see Democrats celebrating the ascendancy of a Republican plan spawned by the Heritage Foundation, but wonders never cease. "

...I never thought "I'd see Democrats celebrating" the possibility of returning to the status quo (no expansion of Medicaid, no ban on dropping people with a pre-existing condition, no free preventive care for seniors, no improved MLR, etc.).

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
8. I know. I admire your fastidious devotion to the President.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:32 AM
Jun 2012

I do not share it. And you and I both know that I am not a supporter of the status quo, but, sometimes, the medicine is worse than the disease, and I think the ACA is one of those cases. I think it enriches and strengthens the very cause of the problem--the health insurance industry.

I hope the future proves me wrong.

-Laelth

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
11. Right, because
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:37 AM
Jun 2012

"I know. I admire your fastidious devotion to the President. I do not share it."

...your opinion of my "devotion to the President," has an impact on the 16 million who will receive Medicaid, those who will no longer be dropped by insurance companies and the benefits to seniors and young people?

I'm talking about the facts of health care, not about "devotion to the President."

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
7. I don't give a rat's ass whose plan it is. It will make medical insurance affordable for me again
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:13 AM
Jun 2012

come 2014. I'm 55, so that is a BIG HAIRY EFFING DEAL to me.

But thanks for masquerading as a good teabagger and wishing death on me and millions like me.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
9. I am glad that this law will help you.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:33 AM
Jun 2012

I hope it does not further enrich and empower the very cause of our problem--the health insurance industry. We'll see how it plays out.

-Laelth

treestar

(82,383 posts)
12. So what if it enriches them
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jun 2012

What is wrong with strengthening the health care industry? What interests is it of anyone for it to be weak? So what if insurance companies make money (less, since there are caps). People will get health care. I'd rather people get health care (and a better means to pay for it) that indulge in the alleged tears of insurance companies (who would have been happy if that failed.)

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