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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThank you Chief Justice John Roberts
For standing up for the country, for our system of checks and balances. Thank you for rational thought.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)if he took away the health insurance of the millions of people who are covered by Obama's healthcare plan.
liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)gives a shit about that. I think what swayed him was the fact that the majority of major insurance companies were for it and made clear their opposition to it being struck down and THAT, the business interests, was what he really cared about. Had they been against it, he probably would have been as well.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)care about their Freeper supporters.
The Corps always win, especially with this court.
aintitfunny
(1,421 posts)I do not think this was his personal political preference. This is a political court. It is sad in a way that we actually appreciate someone fulfilling their job requirements! But hell, I'll take it and be grateful!
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,428 posts)Surprised that Kennedy didn't vote to uphold it too.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)He doesn't want to share the historical stench attached to Roger Taney, who authored the Dred Scott decision. Roberts is a corporate tool, but he is smart enough to have a sense of history and legacy.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)He's still a ruthug douche, but it's all about history and the legacy of his court. He's smart enough to know this.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)in U.S. v. Nixon to preserve the legitimacy of the Court as an institution, Roberts did so here. Chief Justices tend to get the fine-tooth-comb treatment from historians, unlike most other justices save for a few giants like Holmes, Brandeis, Black and Brennan. Roberts does not want to see himself mocked by future generations.
I must give the CJ credit for having a sense of history, if little else.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Recognize bad when he sees it. Really, really bad anyway. People dying kind of bad. That's something to be grateful for when there were 3 who couldn't.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Did anyone really think they would allow the Mandate, something the Heritage Foundation worked so for for so long, to go away?
But they were in a bind. The Conservatives, I mean. Whether to make the Dem President look bad, or to uphold the profit margin for the Corporate handlers.
In the end, money won as it always does. And the others get to say they voted against Obama. Everyone wins, except the people. Most importantly, the Corps win.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)Chief Justice John Roberts. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I didn't expect that.
mvd
(65,179 posts)I thought if it was 5-4, it would be Kennedy with us.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Alito and Roberts both considered it a tax
mvd
(65,179 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Bonhomme Richard
(9,000 posts)Bake
(21,977 posts)One, he's concerned about the Court's standing in public opinion--the public's respect for the Court, and its legacy.
Two, the insurance companies got him to protect their profits.
Three, maybe--just maybe--he wanted to do the right thing.
Those are just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others.
Bake
Octafish
(55,745 posts)That's a winning theme for liberals and progressives, the Old Democrats.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Preserve the status quo for the time being. Excellent point, Octafish!
Bake
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The guy's appointment trumped Scalia for the top slot -- and the Reich pretty much owed Tony Supremo everything in 2000.
Should things go their way in November, the pukes'll have the horses they need to protect the filthy property holders for whom they toil.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Ship of Fools
(1,453 posts)As far as SCOTUS goes, the Fab Five can burn in hell for making
our country a laughingstock.
Just one woman's opinion.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Impartiality is what judicial decisions are all about.
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)Sirveri
(4,517 posts)I have zero confidence that he did this for the benefit of the country or anyone other than himself or his political/corporate masters.
SDjack
(1,448 posts)the wind blows. The ACA is the best they can hope for, so don't give the DEMs another chance to go "single provider." He didn't do it for the people -- he did it for the companies.
Inuca
(8,945 posts)a post from Ezra Klein I am not sure what to make of.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/06/28/the-political-genius-of-john-roberts/
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)We make it so easy for them.
hlthe2b
(102,334 posts)and essentially dismantle the commerce clause. As the staunch corporatist, that he is, this does not surprise me if true.
That said, he still is going to take some heat for crossing his RW overlords, since few outside academic Federalist society circles, would "see" the big picture that he is trying to accomplish.
Still, I'll take today's victory and reserve my contempt for Scalia, Alito, Kennedy. He gets a pass today.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)because healt care and health care insurance are part of the way the health industry makes their money. So I can see why he came down on our side for a change.
rbookstein
(1 post)It was horrifying close to going the other way. Four conservative scumbuckets wanted to invalidate the entire law.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I doubt he knows it, but he may have done us a great good.
-Laelth