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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe farmers are really going to be happy, Mex to buy corn from Argentina
President Donald Trump's remarks about Mexico might hurt American farmers, as CNN Money reported a Mexican senator plans to introduce a bill that would make Brazil and Argentina the country's corn supplier.
Senator Armando Rios Piter, the head of a congressional committee on foreign relations, told CNN Sunday he is "going to send a bill for the corn that we are buying in the Midwest and . . . change to Brazil or Argentina," saying it is a "good way to tell them that this hostile relationship has consequences, hope that it changes."
con't
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/corn-supplier-Brazil-Argentina/2017/02/13/id/773395/
we are soooo screwed
egold2604
(369 posts)Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Export deals that are going South Bigly my friends. Major Farm Crisis by June.
CincyDem
(6,407 posts)I know I'm supposed to be an empathetic citizen but it's hard for me to say "my heart bleeds for these farmers". They will get what they voted for. We'll see how the fake news spins this one.
Ms. Toad
(34,117 posts)He was a farmer for 60-years AND the first conscientious objector from one of those red states, the founder of that state's peace group, and he carved roughly a decade out of his 7 decades of farming to work for peace and social justice organizations (including being the national leader of one of them for 2 years).
He's never voted republican in his life (aside from perhaps local races in which he knew the individuals personally and for whom their job-related abilities were more important than their politics) and was disowned by his parents for his politics.
So thanks for being so empathetic about what Trump's policies will do for him in his retirement years - when a significant portion of what he needs to support him in retirement is tied to how well the corn (and other) markets do.
You might not want to paint with such a broad brush.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)and myself who retired from farming last year at the age of 69. Farmers do not vote Democrat anymore. They are as red neck conservative as possible. My son or grandsons get any subsidies of almost free crop insurance. Its time to let them loose. Half of my county is now corporate COMMERCIAL dairy's.
Also the price of corn has been rising along with the Dow with everyone expecting tax cuts and no NAFTA. Guess they haven't heard about the deal with South America.
Stop painting with such a broad brush.
Farmers do not vote Democrat anymore.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)Do you live around farmers?
Do you talk to their chemical, fuel and seed dealers?
Do you look at voting records of small farming communities?
Do you talk to any of these?
I will continue to say farmers vote republican.
Ms. Toad
(34,117 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)and so glad we did. Our Relatives are all voicing concern with what is happening in Washington and their new President. Everyone of them are sitting with bins full of last years Harvest with prices below replacement cost and Bills stacking up that need attention as well as purchasing Fuel and Fertilizer for this years crop.
Really feel for all these folks,know first hand what the last Farm Bust was like.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)hope this link works...........
http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/corn.aspx?timeframe=6m
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Replacement cost is 3.92-4.08 depending on your location. Yes they will have to dump their bins but first they have to get the their Lenders to agree or do a work out because of the Cash price at the Elevator will below their Mortgaged price.
If Trump does away with Ethanol,hang on baby,it ain't going to be pretty.
LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)I never paint with a broad brush myself, because I know that there are people trapped in red states who didn't vote for tRumputin who will be suffering because of the stooges who voted for him. I always preface what I'm saying about red states with a "I feel for those in red states who didn't vote for tRumputin" etc. My late Mom grew up on a farm in Oklahoma smack dab during the Depression and everybody of course was having a HORRIBLE time, as food was extremely scarce.
My late Mom told me a story about a white farmer the next farm over helped out their family with the few of beef/sugar/flour rations he had (This man had 10 kids), and that my late grandfather used to help him out with the few crops he could grow and with beef/sugar/flour rations he had (My Mom had 4 in her family--less mouths to feed). Politics nor skin color had anything to do with anything, as BOTH men looked out for one another and their families. She also told me about a generous and kind Jewish store owner who used to help out ALL of the African-Americans purchase food even when they didn't have enough money (My late grands was a widower at this time in the mid 1940's). Anyway, thank GOD for those like your Dad, my late grandfather/the farmer down the road and the Jewish store owner who had good souls, good hearts and minds and who saw PEOPLE instead of the color of a person's skin. Oddly enough though, my late Dad who was Native-American suffered no such trouble during the Great Depression because as a Native American he and his family used to grow tobacco and sweet potatoes and they hunted elk, deer and had chickens and pigs, cows on 1,000 acres they owned (And 2 huge houses they built themselves), and they used to sell mostly the tobacco/sweet potatoes/eggs to white farmers and local white store owners etc. In those days, whites were NOT allowed onto "Indian Territory," (Which was self-sufficient) so my late father, his dad, 2 uncles and several other relatives living on their farm drove their pick-up trucks to half way points where they exchanged their goods for monies. My late grand father nor his brothers or relatives couldn't read nor write at all, so my late father as a young teen ager who could read and write well had to help weigh and add up what they sold to the farmers/buyers, log it in a book which my late Dad meticulously kept. They lived/sold goods this way off of their farm for over 9 years during most of the Great Depression.
Our late fore parents had the weight of the world on their shoulders didn't they?
Anyway, it's a shame though that once those tRumputin-loving farmers find out that their boy screwed them into hell with his BIG, FAT, IGNORANT, RACIST mouth they'll probably blame former Pres. Obama because their boy tRumputin will tell them it's HIS fault, or, he'll blame it on the "fake news" folks and they'll blame it on them. ANYBODY but blame it on the asshole (tRumputin) who deserves all of the blame.
SMDH.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Emperor Dump wants to build a wall around the US and screw over our friends and allies as much as possible.
Amerika first right?
Who knew there would be consequences?
demmiblue
(36,903 posts)NotThisTime
(3,657 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)about this Mexican piece of legislation. drumpf is well on his way to destroying America.
Horse with no Name
(33,958 posts)They knew that NAFTA is important to their livelihood yet they voted for him anyway thinking NAFTA wouldn't be touched.
I hope they lose their farms.
Elections have consequences.
Jimbo101
(776 posts)Gov, Lt. Gov & Legs have been busy on "other things" lately - let's see what happens if & when this goes through !
aside from Corn - In 2015, Texas exported over $92 billion worth of goods to Mexico -
At least there will be plenty of popcorn to watch the ensuing calamity ,...
recent article in the Dallas News
Warpy
(111,383 posts)since they can't count on buying it here with Trade War Trump in office.
oxymoron
(4,053 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,899 posts)http://fortune.com/2017/02/17/trump-mexico-corn-farmers/
http://www.agriculture.com/news/business/no-mas-to-us-corn-imports-mexico-senator-says
Warpy
(111,383 posts)here is the story over at CNN: http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/13/news/economy/mexico-trump-us-corn/
Right now they're just talking but my guess is that the Mexicans themselves will boycott US corn.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Just means more subsidies. It's not like they are going to let farmers sink.
WhiteTara
(29,728 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)WhiteTara
(29,728 posts)It's hard to have sympathy knowing the did this on purpose.
Initech
(100,108 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)Farmers will suffer, just not as much as we think. Cheap feed will equal more meat as well.
I grew up on a farm, so I know how it is done. You push cheap feed through feeder cattle, dairy cattle and hogs.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Glad to hear this. Those Republican farmers are gonna howl!
And I'm going to
petronius
(26,606 posts)In a nutshell, she says that exports aren't the main consumption for US corn (but they do matter), the export season is going rather well for US corn so far this year, but Brazil and Argentina (#2 and #3 in terms of exports) are looking at record crops and they will start marketing in a month or so...
Bengus81
(6,936 posts)here in Kansas. Maybe then those dumbshits in Kansas will realize what they've done with a single vote. But....they'll keep voting for Republicans anyway. It would take another Hoover full blown Great Depression to ever get them to vote Dem.
Squinch
(51,042 posts)onecaliberal
(32,929 posts)That dumb fuck has no clue about cause and effect.
spanone
(135,900 posts)Xolodno
(6,406 posts)Farmer: We need to vote for Trump to get rid of the illegal aliens.
*sever immigration enforcement goes into effect*
Farmer: Where did all my cheap labor go to? I can't afford to pay higher wages and be competitive with other nations despite my; subsidized water, subsidized crops. etc. Now your telling me, despite my slightly lower than average prices on corn, people won't by from me because I voted for Trump?
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One dimensional thinking, it can severely harm you.
Jimbo101
(776 posts)Company (regulatory compliance, permitting, studies, etc,,...) - out of 30 people only 2 of us were Democrats. We used to laugh at the disconnect.
- And I have no doubt that they all recently voted for Trump - so he eliminate the need for the type of work that they do.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"He has an infatuation with Putin for some reason. Virtually all his posts are about Putin or something about Russia and Putin's fault..."
One dimensional though, indeed.
Though no doubt, we all of us will rationalize our own distemper while indicting those of everyone else.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)Dealster-in-Chief. (There's a wall some where in all of this readjusting of ag sales and labor.) The WH brains can figure it all out.
Blue Idaho
(5,060 posts)Of our corn exports go to Mexico... looks like Trump is really making farmers great again.