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Here's an interesting take from Phyllis Thick:
If you wanted proof of EXACTLY why Russia and Putin would want Trump to win, well here it is...:
From: Jeff Severson (I didn't write this) Here are some facts : Decide for yourselves...
1) Trump owes Blackstone/ Bayrock group $560 million dollars (one of his largest debtors and the primary reason he won't reveal his tax returns)
2) Blackstone is owned wholly by Russian billionaires, who owe their position to Putin and have made billions from their work with the Russian government.
3) Other companies that have borrowed from Blackstone have claimed that owing money to them is like owing to the Russian mob and while you owe them, they own you for many favors.
4) The Russian economy is badly faltering under the weight of its over-dependence on raw materials which as you know have plummeted in the last 2 years leaving the Russian economy scrambling to pay its debts.
5) Russia has an impetus to influence our election to ensure the per barrel oil prices are above $65 ( they are currently hovering around $50)
6) Russia can't affordably get at 80% of its oil reserves and reduce its per barrel cost to compete with America at $45 or Saudi Arabia at $39. With Iranian sanctions being lifted Russia will find another inexpensive competitor increasing production and pushing Russia further down the list of suppliers. As for Iranian sanctions, the 6 countries lifting them allowing Iran to collect on the billions it is owed for pumping oil but not being paid for it. These billions Iran can only get if the Iranian nuclear deal is signed. Trump spoke of ending the deals which would cause oil sales sanctions to be reimposed, which would make Russian oil more competitive.
7) Rex Tillerson (Trump's pick for Secretary of State) is the head of ExxonMobil, which is in possession of patented technology that could help Putin extract 45% more oil at a significant cost savings to Russia, helping Putin put money in the Russian coffers to help reconstitute its military and finally afford to mass produce the new and improved systems that it had invented before the Russian economy had slowed so much.
8) Putin cannot get access to these new cost saving technologies OR outside oil field development money, due to US sanctions on Russia, because of its involvement in Ukrainian civil war.
9) Look for Trump to end sanctions on Russia and to back out of the Iranian nuclear deal, to help Russia rebuild its economy, strengthen Putin and make Tillerson and Trump even richer, thus allowing Trump to satisfy his creditors at Blackstone.
10) With Trump's fabricated hatred of NATO and the U.N., the Russian military reconstituted, the threat to the Baltic states is real. Russia retaking their access to the Baltic Sea from Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and threatening the shipping of millions of cubic feet of natural gas to lower Europe from Scandinavia, allowing Russia to make a good case for its oil and gas being piped into eastern Europe.
Sources: Time Magazine, NY Times, The Atlantic, The Guardian
Why are the republicans leaders on board with this? They have their agenda and what is happening helps them...at any given time they can impeach trump...but in the meantime let him complete as much of their dirty work as he can...some republican officials maybe more invested than others...depends on who is willing to be paid off...
sagetea
(1,375 posts)They're getting something...party over country. I will slap the next repub that chants USA. They have no honor. No grace, no dignity. And yet they THINK they are the 'superior' race?
And thank you for itemizing this.
sage
world wide wally
(21,757 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)hve been posted by journalists. Do oy have a link to Phyllis Thick. Is she a journalist? Can find anything when I google her name.
dchill
(38,559 posts)even know who Rex Tillerson is.
iluvtennis
(19,882 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)1) The Russian oil company in question sold a big chunk of itself to a mystery buyer kept hidden for $19.5 Billion.
2) Ukraine taxes oil pipeline shipments. Russia stole Crimea so Putin could export the oil tax free.
KT2000
(20,591 posts)media does not even speculate about these possibilities. They are so obvious. I just hope the IC moves fast on this.
I also suspect that the little flyover the US ship was a reminder to Dump to keep his word.
I also believe the Dump stands to get a cut of the Exxon/Rosneft deal.
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GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)Here is their Wiki page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blackstone_Group
It is publicly traded in the US under the code: BX
Consequently, rather than spread false information that will reduce our credibility, it is best to triple check things before we pass them along. I think that was done with this list in prior postings.
GetRidOfThem
(869 posts)... Interesting sounding speculation is just that: speculation. You can draw all kinds of inferences from an aglomoration of facts, and still not quite get the story right, and then, when one or more of the facts crumble, so does the theory.
This does not mean I am not very afraid of Agent Orange, or support his policies. I am just saying that the right tools to fight back with have to be rigorously based on real, and not alternative, facts...
pbmus
(12,422 posts)The Bayrock Group was founded in 2001 by Tevfik Arif, a former Soviet official from Kazakhstan who became an international businessman. He founded Bayrock after he moved some of his businesses to the United States.[1]
Arif hired Russian businessman Felix Sater as managing director of Bayrock in 2003.[2] Sater became Bayrock's Chief Operating Officer,[3] and assisted with several projects, including management of the Trump SoHo project.[2] Sater left Bayrock in 2008[4] after a New York Times article revealed his criminal past.[5][6] In 1998, Sater had pled guilty to stock racketeering and fraud as part of a US and Russian mafia-connected $40 million stock pump and dump scheme.[4] He worked with the CIA and the FBI, allegedly offering information on a black market for Stinger missiles.[4][7] Sater later worked as a senior advisor to Trump.[4]
Julius Schwarz joined Bayrock in 2005.[8] He was Executive Vice President until March 2011.
By 2014, Bayrock was largely inactive, with the exception of a few lawsuits.[4]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayrock_Group
While the exact amount cannot be proven, Trump's close ties to Blackstone and Schwartzman and 30-year history with Bayrock; Putin's appeals to Blackstone, and Blackstones ties to Russia and sudden pullout in September 2014 and Trump's official announcement of his campaign in June 2015; an experienced MI6 operative in hiding, Russian intelligence dead or arrested for treason, and 19.5% of the Russian oil company Rosneft missing and its refusal to divulge all point to a 0.5% commission that just about hits that $560m number on the nose, plus a hundred million. Don't be so quick to dismiss it. Id say stay tuned
TrumpMania
(13 posts)if your President starts selling your company to Russia...