Do you believe that Pence did not know about

[DURHAM D]

Flynn's contact with the Russian ambassador and promises made?

I don't believe it for one minute.

[LibraLiz1973]

1. Not for a second.

[GP6971]

2. Not at all. n/t

[pbmus]

3. No, they are setting him up to take over..

[DURHAM D]

5. I agree.

They are trying to keep him "clean".

[ciaobaby]

4. Don't give a shit what anybody says they new or didn't know.

The entire Whitehouse is full of liars.

[Tanuki]

6. No. It is a bald-faced lie. Everyone who propagates it knows it is a lie.

[DURHAM D]

11. It has been repeated on MSNBC all night that

Pence was lied to by Flynn.

[Tanuki]

20. They have to know. They are not that stupid. I'll be charitable and call it a willing suspension

of disbelief.

[wcmagumba]

7. I didn't believe it...

when our holographic overlords told me about it 10 million years ago.

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/49088/20150427/universe-hologram-holographic-principle-suggests-yes.htm

[NRaleighLiberal]

8. Nope. And it's time to see those taxes.

[starshine00]

9. no but only because they are saying he didn't know.

since they lie all the time it must mean he did know. I don't know enough about it otherwise to know why he would know.

[BlueSpot]

10. Not by the timeline as I understand it

Flynn apologized to Trump and Pence for his lying before Pence went on TV saying he was all clean. That means Pence knew all about it and was lying too.

[jmg257]

24. Pence On TV was Jan 15, Flynn apology i think this past Friday.

[BlueSpot]

32. Ugh, I could swear I read differently.

But I am unable to find a link to support it at the moment.

Flynn's public apology was recent but what I remember reading is that he apologized to them privately earlier than the Pence denial on 1/15. However, since I cannot provide a link, I'm not going to push it.

[jmg257]

34. No worries it does get confusing! Here is a timeline I found...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mike-flynn-timeline-his-rise-fall-russia-call-n720671

[butdiduvote]

12. No way he spent a year with the campaign and was in the dark.

The question of whether his participation/knowledge can be proven is a separate one.

[renegade000]

13. Let's home that Trump and his people direct their vengeance toward him...

Bring him down along with the rest of them.

[Botany]

14. no

n/t

[delisen]

15. Did you think Priebus knew? nt

[DURHAM D]

16. Yes. nt

[jmg257]

35. I think he'd be in the "small group of senior advisors" briefed w/ the Yates/WH counsel.

[triron]

17. No way Jose'

[Wounded Bear]

18. Not really...nt

[JI7]

19. he stuck by Trump during the Access Hollywood tape

many people would not have wanted to be Trump's vp but he was willing to do it and seemed to really want it.

i think he was willing to put up with all of this in order to get ahead himself and become President .

he isn't some great moral type as he likes to present himself as. the same is true of many who are so openly religious and preachy.

what i think he that he may not be directly involved in all this shit but he was willing to look the other way and put up with the lies so he can be president.

[brooklynite]

21. I have no idea, and neither do you...

"We all know" is not the basis for preparing analyses of what's going on...

[DURHAM D]

23. Really? Who are you quoting? nt

[blue neen]

22. Nope.

No freaking way.

[Greybnk48]

25. This. n/t

[Pachamama]

26. No - I believe Pence knew

And the surveillance that kicked in last year will show that...

In fact, I'm sure they all know in the White House inner circle with the exception of maybe Sean Spicer and Kellyanne.

And I believe that the top people in the GOP have at least suspected and just "went with it" because it meant they had power...

[Jim Beard]

27. I think I am better understanding of why Melina hasn't moved into the Whitehouse.

[BainsBane]

28. I do actually

Pence isn't in Trump's inner circle. Reporting is that Pense found out by reading the Washington Post on Friday, and then set about trying to figure out what the hell was going on. It appears that is what led to Flynn's departure.

Remember that Trump was very reluctant to take Pence as his VP. Unlike Trump, he criticized Putin in the debate. Ideology, he is far apart from Trump on Russia. I don't think Pence is in on it.

Pence is a homophobic, ultra right-wing shitbag, but he's not a Russian asset.

[Freethinker65]

29. No

[Tanuki]

30. Back in December they made a big deal out of the fact that Pence

was receiving the daily intelligence briefing on a daily basis, while the Dolt was only doing so about once a week. We have every reason to think that Pence was much more aware of what was going on than Dolt, and not less so. It also makes sense that since Pence had made public statements denying that Flynn had discussed sanctions with the Russians, the Intel people would have tipped him off directly that they knew otherwise. Unless, of course, they suspected he was deeply implicated himself and were holding off to see what else he might do.

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN13X2M9?client=ms-android-att-us

[JenniferJuniper]

31. He's as dirty as the rest of them.

[doc03]

33. Nope nt

[Control-Z]

36. Let's remember, the maggot didn't choose pence.

Pence was chosen for him.

[jmg257]

37. Wow if he didn't, it means trump kept him in the dark even though

Flynn lied to him...for 2 weeks?

It means he had to find out by reading the paper what trump and his senior advisors already knew??

He must be pissed!!!

[GallopingGhost]

38. If he didn't he's dumber than a gerbil dropping. n/t

[democratisphere]

39. Pence is not believable.

[LisaL]

40. No, I don't.

[lunasun]

41. Imo No I do not but Pence is such a consistent liar he may get a pass being a pro

[akbacchus_BC]

42. He knew, they are all liars yet the party base is behind these wicked people!

The GOP choose party over their base, which is sickening! How do these people look at themselvelses in the mirror. They are wicked and tratiors!!

[Generic Brad]

43. They tried to paint Pence as in charge and aware of everything

Then when the shit hits the fan and he is out of the loop. Not buying the crap they are trying to sell.

[chowder66]

44. I don't think it matters. He's tainted by it either way. nt

[littlemissmartypants]

45. He definitely knew.

He's a spineless snake, drunk with power. Thick as thieves is the expression that comes to mind.

[HoosierDebbie]

46. Pence has his own ethical problems...

prior to any affiliation with 45. And that is in addition to his prehistoric social attitudes. I don't give him the benefit of the doubt on anything. No presumption of innocence from me.

[StarryNite]

47. He knew!

No way could all of this "constant" communication with Putin's puds have escaped Pence. Not even Pence is that stupid.