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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLet's list all the ALLEGED characters in RUSSIAGATE.
Trump
Putin
Giuliani
Flynn
Assange
Comey
Bannon
Conway
Blanks
(4,835 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)what's his name Page?
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)and +++ Manafort
bdamomma
(63,883 posts)Heres a list of all of the murders laid at the feet of Vladimir Putin
IamFortunesFool
(348 posts)Dugin is Putin's advisor and the original architect of 4th and 5th column political theory that Bannon has subscribed to. If you want to better understand all the intricacies of the Trump/Putin dynamic, and what it portends, you need to be familiar with Dugin.
Follow this thread for the basic overview:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8546674
enid602
(8,620 posts)Don't forget Nigel Farage and Marine LePen. This is an international effort.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)Roger Stone
Felix Sater
Boris Epshteyn
Rex Tillerson
Wendy Deng Murdoch
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Tanuki
(14,919 posts)"On Tuesday the Observer published a piece maintaining that the DCCC had coordinatedpresumably improperlywith the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2015. The story, written by a freelance contributor named Michael Sainato, cited "an internal DCCC memo" leaked to the Observer from Guccifer 2.0the handle of the hacker or hackers who have successfully targeted these Democratic committees. The Observer is owned by Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who has been a top adviser to the Republican presidential nominee.
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In an email to Mother Jones, Fallon elaborated on his tweet: "Guccifer 2.0 is known to be the Russians. And now that they are leaking materials obtained from their hacking to Trump adviser Jared Kushner's newspaper, that's a pretty direct link between Trump and the Russians behind this hack."
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Glen Caplin, another spokesman for the Clinton campaign, issued a more complete statement: "The Russians have become even more brazen in their effort to influence the election by leaking documents to Trump adviser Jared Kushners newspaper for publication. Trump's longtime confidant Roger Stone has already admitted he's in contact with Julian Assange, who has been exposed for actively aiding the Russians. And both Stone and Assange are promising more leaks targeting Clinton as the election approaches, something Donald Trump actively invited. This is a national security issue and every American deserves answers about potential collusion between Trump campaign associates, WikiLeaks and the Kremlin."
The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment.
In response to questions posed by Mother Jones on Twitter, Sainato said in a now-deleted tweet that Fallon's claims were "more Red Dawn Russian conspiracies." ......
Frogg
(365 posts)Better watch this one
Tanuki
(14,919 posts)Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)has to do with the fact that dRUmpfenfuhrer has zero intel or national security knowledge or connections. He knows nothing, and is trying to hold a coalition together of virulent anti-semitic birchers and Jewish organized criminals who are sops to Netanyahu's Likud Mossad righties.
The national security / intel connections that he could bring to the table for a 'winning' 'combination' are 2 diametrically opposed groups. He brings right wing Jewish wiseguys, russian Mafiya organized crime, his dad's klan connections, his love for hitler speeches, and his PePe followers to the table.
He had to take a super anti-semitic bircher nutjob like Flynn onto his team for intel credibility. He had to take a Southern 'concerned citizen' in as head of Justice. He had to take a Jewish Goldman Sachs guy on for Treasury, and an oil Nazi lackey of Putin's on for State. He had to take a bircher VP onto his team.
Watching Randi Rhode's coverage of Fox's Chris Wallace interview of bircher Pence, it was interesting to see Pence's answer to the second question 'Were there any contacts during the campaign between dRumpf's associates and russian operatives about hacking?' Because what bircher Pence did was bring up false allegations that 'Michael Cohen was accused of having a meeting in Prague (with Russian operatives), and a news organization finally did some checking and it was false.'
Sure, bircher Pence was blowing smoke, trying to distract. But what he did was throw the long term dRumpf business associate Jewish mob lawyer under the bus, while wanting to take credit for 'not throwing him under the bus but really just exonerating him.'
Bannon is an extreme nazi anti semite, who works for an org that got it's start from Jewish propaganda people like Breitbart and Berman. He's a navy intel guy who worked for Goldman Sachs. Bannon is either Opus Dei or a bircher, his specialty is propaganda not intel, but he's sitting in on NSC intel meetings.
He pushed for a strongly antagonistic stance against China (US and Russia aligned to split control), that's getting suddenly reversed now, with a reversion to the "One China" policy.
The dRumpf foreign policy whizzes pushed for Jerusalem to be recognized as Israel's capitol, a sop to the Likud right, but reversed themselves to bad mouth settlements.
Bircher Flynn was on top of the world, in dRumpf intel terms, suddenly running into big problems about his pro dRumpf and Russia treason. Conway's side bested klansman Sessions buddy Chuck Cooper in the Solicitor General fight, suddenly she's fending off an ethics investigation from Chaffetz and a blowback from blatant lying on terror attacks. Those terror attacks help her explain the Moslem ban, which the admin 'abandoned at 5 pm today, then took up again at 6 pm.
All the flip flop reversals are a struggle between the 2 disparate factions dRumpf is trying to bring together to get a foreign policy national security apparatus in place, that works and is acceptable to the interests he has to satisfy.