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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:17 AM Feb 2017

Is NY going red, I think so. 5 more state Dem senate members going

over to the GOP caucus.

Trump took every county north of West Point and made big in roads into the NYC areas. If Trump is still in office in 2018, he will own NYC.

Teachout got beat in Gillibrand area by Faso (R) who is being prepped for Gillibrand seat in 2018.

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elleng

(131,065 posts)
2. Our moment of crisis didnt begin with the election of Donald Trump, {Senator Warren} said.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:41 AM
Feb 2017

“We were already in crisis. We were already in crisis because for years and years and years, Washington has worked just great for the rich and the powerful, but far too often, it hasn’t worked for anyone else.”

“People don’t just wake up one day and elect leaders like Donald Trump because ‘hey, everything is awesome, but what the hell, let’s roll the dice and make life interesting,’” she added.

Democrats frequently enabled or participated in these trends, Warren said.'>>>



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-congressional-progressives_us_5895e6b5e4b0406131373015?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
3. Oh, that's right ... Teachout lost. I'd almost forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 08:47 AM
Feb 2017

These things are important to remember.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
4. The problem is Guillibrand may lose a statewide run in 2018 and lose
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 09:00 AM
Feb 2017

her chance at a 2020 run for POTUS.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
5. That would be a disaster! It's bad enough to have to fight 10 senators in red states
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 09:34 AM
Feb 2017

And hope to stop repugs from getting 60 senators but to fight in a reliable blue state is frightening.

RussBLib

(9,030 posts)
6. we need better Dem candidates
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 09:45 AM
Feb 2017

so many of these people are just opportunists. How else to explain elected Dems going over to the GOP?

NY state becoming red is almost as incomprehensible to me as CA going red. Is everyone just getting dumber and dumber?

Squinch

(50,990 posts)
7. Do you never tire of pushing this bullshit? Weren't you the one talking about how much NYers love
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 09:57 AM
Feb 2017

Trump during the election.

Disabuse yourself of the notion that you have any insights to NY. You don't.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
8. NY will stay blue on a national level...has been since Reagan
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:06 AM
Feb 2017

But as for state and local politics, it does get redder in less populated areas ~

County politics often skews republican. Has for years.

Making Election Day a national holiday would go along way to change that. Give working class folks time off to vote and the republicans would hear the true voice of the people!



http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
9. Let's be realistic
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:09 AM
Feb 2017

Without Manhattan and Brooklyn, NYS is not very impressive. It is the money that matters, not the votes.

Manhattan and Brooklyn were nearly 90% for Hillary. Would have been closer to 99% if Bernie had never been born.

I know a lot of people that were all in for Bernie. You wants to know who was for Trump? The strange guy on the bus with hair growing out of every hole, carrying 3 shopping bags, that smells like cheese. Sure outside of Manhattan and and Brooklyn, he got the cops and firemen, but how much money are they ever going to put into a campaign? In 8 years, I have actually seen Obama's motorcade coming from fundraisers on 95th st (huge donor) at least twice a year.

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