cnn may ban kellyanne conway permanently due to lack of credibility

[rdking647]

According to the New York Times, CNN executives have “serious questions” about Conway’s credibility, as she has consistently pushed what she herself has called “alternative facts,” such as the nonexistent “Bowling Green massacre” that was roundly mocked last week.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/cnn-considers-permanent-ban-for-kellyanne-conway-over-serious-questions-about-credibility-report/?comments=disqus

[kimbutgar]

1. Oh please make it so

I will gladly start watching CNN if they don't show that old ugly hagface.

Ps I am an old ugly 60 year old hag and I wouldn't want to be on tv!

[calimary]

70. I would LOVE to see her taken down!

I love the idea of not having to see her mug on TV anymore. It'd be a public service to all of us.

We've already started watching more CNN. Pretty much don't bother with MSNBC anymore til Hardball or later. The only people we find worth sticking around for at this point are Rachel, Lawrence O'Donnell, and whenever Joy Reid is on.

Dishonorable mentions go to Greta, Morning Blow, Andrea Hillary-hater, Stephanie Ruhle (I was gone once she started gushing about how "Rex" was such a cool, tough-guy, big ol' macho name for our then-not-yet-confirmed Secretary of State), and let's not forget the impending arrival of Megyn On-the-Wrong-Network Kelly. It just won't feel like NBC anymore - or MSNBC, either - by the time Her Majesty Megyn arrives. NOT looking forward to that.

[Eyeball_Kid]

2. WHAT?? For-profit infotainment channel utilizes COMMON SENSE? Where's the money?

[teezy]

3. I'm glad they did it, but...

It won't mean anything until other networks jump on board. I'm sure it will happen soon.

[Squinch]

52. I disagree that it won't mean anything. She is a WH spokesperson, of obvious high standing. I

think it's actually very very significant that even one major station is refusing to give air time to this proven liar.

If they do this, I'll be spending a lot more time on CNN.

[Freethinker65]

4. Might as well be consistent and ban DeVos, Chaffetz, Comey, Trump, ...

[mdbl]

72. I agree. Call them all liars and be done with them.

CNN can just use their platform to fact check the crazy crap other people are saying. I'll watch them for sure if they do that.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

5. Why are they still even thinking about it?

Just do it already! The WH has pretty much already frozen CNN out, so why have his spokespeople on there anyway?

[tecelote]

6. Trump cut CNN out, they should be aggressive.

It's an historic opportunity for them to be seen as the station that took down the dictator and saved the country.

[get the red out]

7. I am hoping so

I have begun to watch CNN a little bit because Trump hates them and they have done a bit of push back. I haven't watched cable news in years.

[Cha]

58. trump froze cnn out for about 5 minutes and then they offered up, Con..

Link to tweet

But, yes.. cnn should do their part to save the country and the Planet.

[harun]

76. +1, would gain my respect.

[KPN]

8. Perfect! It's the only way MSM can regain credibility itself. Not to mention

the best counter to Trump's attacks. Hopefully CNN does this and others follow.

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. I cant think of a single person in the WH or cabinet who can be trusted to tell

the truth.

Ben Carson maybe, but he is clueless to everything going on including his own department.

This entire bunch are liars and they are going to steal every single penny each and every one of us has and if recent events are any indication, we are going to let them do just that.


I have faith those of us here will do what we can to resist and revolt, but most Americans dont know what is going on, at all. Dont want to know, and so on.

We need to be talking to people constantly.

[NCTraveler]

10. This is the news making the news. Might sound good but it's bullshit.

She is a close advisor and Counselor to President Bannon.

These outfits are still calling themselves news orginizations. That means people in her position should be interviewed by them. Her words should also be checked in real time by these news organizations.

If they deem her to not be credible, then that is what they should be talking about. Her position of power combined with her lack of credibility. To her face. In interviews. Not simply barred from being a guest.

[zipplewrath]

13. I'm a bit on the fence on this one

I agree that elected people need to be interviewed. And cabinet officers and other officials do too. And of course the Press Secretary can't be ignored. But somewhere "down the line" these professional spin masters don't necessarily meet the same criteria. Conway's basically a mouth piece and if they can't be trusted with basic facts, nor apparently well represent the person that they supposedly speak on behalf, then it would seem that they lose the privilege of appearing on these shows.

[NCTraveler]

15. It shouldn't be a "privilege" to appear on these shows, imo.

That thought process is a part of the problem itself. She is a close advisor. Not interviewing her is the same as covering up for their incompetence. We should hear from people like her and journalists should fact check. This sounds more like propaganda from CNN.

[leftstreet]

18. +1

[ProfessorGAC]

20. NOt Agreeing NC

In her case, the interview will reveal nothing. She's non-credible, we know she lies and then lies about the lies, and has no intention of giving a genuine answer to any genuine question.

I agree with you mostly, but sometimes a lost cause is a lost cause. Their's not enough fact checkers at CNN to refute everything she lies about, and then once it is out there, who cares later that she's been proven wrong. In this case, keeping the lies from public consumption is a better strategy.

[NCTraveler]

23. "but sometimes a lost cause is a lost cause."

And I don't think journalists should hide a lost cause in a closet when said lost cause is advising one of the most powerful person in the world. Hiding her simply leaves Americans uneducated as to who is influential in the wh and how competent they are.

"Their's not enough fact checkers at CNN to refute everything she lies about"

They only need one. That's it. And even then it would not take long. These are relatively short interviews. It would take almost no resources to fact check her.

"keeping the lies from public consumption is a better strategy."

I believe that would be a massive failure of journalism and goes completely against what journalists should do. That is my point of mentioning that this is propaganda on CNN's part. It is a strategy aimed at us.

[latinaliberal]

54. I agree

She will continue to lie. Once the light is out there that's all that matters it's out there and Trump supporters will believe it and that's all that matters to them. I say she should be banned.
And yes other news Outlet need to do the same. And we shouldn't stop with kellyanne Conway. Just my two cents

[zipplewrath]

22. I want to avoid the sematics

The point is that time on a screen is a finite resource and it doesn't seem that it is appropriate to just give over some portion of that willy nilly. Too many other speakers that would have more value.

[NCTraveler]

24. I don't consider giving time to one of the Presidents top advisors to be...

"willy nilly"

[zipplewrath]

42. Not clear she is

I mean, I know the title and all, but it isn't clear she is particularly advising anyone. She's been caught not knowing what the Presidents positions are. She's been caught giving false information out about government activities. And she invented the expression "alternative facts". I'm not sure that qualifies as being a "top adviser". Sounds vastly more like "office hack".

And that is the larger point. DC is filled with people who think they are important. But it would seem the networks would pay a bit more attention to who is actually a "reliable source" before continuing give them more air time.

[NCTraveler]

45. You just outlined many points that would make journalist interviewing her to be even more important.

I don't get why this should be hidden from the publics eye as you are suggesting. Even more so after your addition here.

[zipplewrath]

47. It's not hidden

It's pretty much wide open. Not giving her air time to provide useless commentary isn't hiding, it is managing the asset of time.

[NCTraveler]

48. It's hiding her. One of this administrations top officials.

I truly don't get this. Wanting to not give time to a top administration official who is promoting false propaganda daily.

This is nothing more than a pr move for CNN. It will work on some. Capitalistic journalism.

[zipplewrath]

49. Again, an assertion looking for evidence

Calling her a top official is hard to defend considering her demonstrated lack of information and knowledge. She may work in the White House, but she doesn't apparently know anything, so what use is there in spending a scare asset like air time on her.

[NCTraveler]

55. You are the only person I have seen.

To say she isn't a top admin official. The topic line in your last post would be good for you to read. I don't get this need to normalize Trump and the cheering behind hiding his worst and closest associates by "journalists."

[zipplewrath]

67. Hardly a normalization

He'd be the first president to have a spokes person so untrustworthy and so bad that no one wanted to bother to speak with her. Furthermore, if she can't speak for him, then he'll have to speak for himself.

[Mariana]

37. They're calling themselves news organizations

but they're all in it for the money, and it's wishful thinking to pretend otherwise. If CNN believe they're likely to lose viewers if they put Conway on, they won't put her on. It really is that simple.

[NCTraveler]

46. This. Exactly.

That is why I referred to it as their own propaganda.

[Squinch]

63. Yes, but that means we have been successful in pointing out that we don't want to hear

her.

Have you ever heard any news from her? Have you ever heard anything other than weird distractions coming from her mouth? I haven't.

And PS, news organizations have ALWAYS worked for profit. There has never been a time when they have not. And "being in it for the money" has always been a characteristic of news organizations.

[Squinch]

62. I disagree. There is no information to be gained by interviewing her on any subject.

The only thing ANY interviews of Kellyann have done is provide distractions from what is actually going on in the White House. She has never offered a fact, and she has never offered any true information.

There is no news to be had in any of her interviews.

Better CNN should keep their eye on the ball and report on what is going on.

[mdbl]

73. There are plenty of alt-news channels to spew the crap from Conjob and Banhim

CNN doesn't need them on air to do that. Just fact check them after and find credible sources to interview.

[stopbush]

11. How effective is an "effective political operative" if they can't get media exposure

to push their bs?

I'd say ineffective.

[Raster]

12. GOOD! Propaganda Barbie should be run out of the DC Beltline...

...send her back to her Mercer family masters... you know, the ones that gave us Kellyanne Conjob* and Steve "Leninist" Bannon*, and finance a large portion of the Breitbart cash expenditures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mercer_(businessman)

In 2015, the Washington Post called Mercer one of the ten most influential billionaires in politics. Mercer was a major financial supporter of the 2016 presidential campaign of Ted Cruz, contributing $11 million to a super PAC associated with the candidate. Reporter Zachary Mider, writing for Bloomberg in January 2016, called Mercer "the biggest single donor" in the 2016 U.S. presidential race.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics Mercer is currently ranked the #1 donor to federal candidates in the 2016 election cycle, ahead of Renaissance founder James Harris Simons who is ranked #5 and generally donates to Democrats. By June, Mercer had donated $13.5 million to Ted Cruz’s super PAC, $2 million to John R. Bolton’s super PAC, and $668,000 directly to the Republican National Committee. Since 2006, Mercer has donated about $34.9 million to federal campaigns. Since 1990, Renaissance Technologies has contributed $59,081,152 to federal campaigns and since 2001, has spent $3,730,000 on lobbying.

Mercer has given $750,000 to the Club for Growth, $2 million to American Crossroads, and $2.5 million to Freedom Partners Action Fund. In 2010, Mercer financially supported Art Robinson's efforts to unseat Peter DeFazio in Oregon's 4th congressional district. In the 2013-2014 election cycle, Mercer donated the fourth largest amount of money among individual donors, and the second most among Republican donors. Mercer joined the Koch brothers conservative political donor network after the 2010 Citizens United v. FEC, but Mercer and his daughter, Rebekah Mercer, decided to establish their own political foundation. The Mercer Family Foundation, run by Mercer's daughter, Rebekah, has donated to a variety of conservative causes.

Mercer is a major supporter of Donald Trump's 2016 campaign for president. Mercer and his daughter played a role in the elevation of Stephen Bannon and Kellyanne Conway into senior roles in the Trump campaign. The Mercers had worked with Bannon previously on Reclaim New York, Breitbart.com and the Government Accountability Institute (GAI) funding and investments, and Rebekah had worked with Conway on the Cruz Super-PAC Keep the Promise in the 2016 Republican primaries. Mercer also financed a Super PAC, Make America Number One, which supported Trump's campaign.

Rebekah is one of the members of Donald Trump's Presidential Transition Team Executive Committee.


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[Yavin4]

14. CNN, you dishonor the memory of those lost to the Bowling Green massacre

Shame on you.

[Phoenix61]

16. I'm not sure what media outlet stated it

but they said they reported on Iraq and Iran and don't have access to those leaders. IMO they can do a better job reporting on Twitler and gang without ever having them on. When every other sentence is a lie, it's hard to cover much ground. Things that need to come out in the news don't because they are busy chasing down lies. Meanwhile, EO's and bills are flying all over the WH.

[Squinch]

64. It was Reuters. They said to treat the Trump administration like a foreign dictatorship.

I think it's the right way to go.

[ProudLib72]

17. I'm of two minds on this

On the one hand, CNN should not let Kellyanne use their news source as a platform for spreading alternative facts. On the other hand, CNN has a commitment to get the facts from reliable sources (which means someone from the WH). I say it's better to let her tell them whatever lies and then expose those lies and throw them back in her face.

[Mellomugwump]

36. I think they're cutting to the chase

If they continue to expose her lies, she'll retaliate and refuse to go on their show and the WH will make a big deal about refusing CNN because they're fake news. This way, it's CNN's decision, which will give them some credibility.

Now, if everybody didn't let her go on and on and called her out on her lies, that might work, but as long as Chris Mathews continues his love fest with her, she'll continue to have a forum and would eventually retaliate against those that do call her out.

[TeamPooka]

43. It is literally impossible to expose and disprove every lie told by a Gish Gallop on live TV

That's why they do it and it's an effective strategy.
If someone is a congenital liar you can't have them on live TV.

[SHRED]

19. She's a waste of air space

Gibberish.

[lpbk2713]

21. BWAHAHAHA. I love it.

You can push a line of bullshit just so far. Trump and KA just found out what their thresh hold is.

"Keep your lying ass out of our studio."

[Arkansas Granny]

25. Kellyanne has referred to the "massacre" before, it seems.

Kellyanne Conway’s ‘Bowling Green massacre’ wasn’t a slip of the tongue. She’s said it before.

While discussing why President Obama halted refugees from Iraq in 2011, Conway explained on Jan. 29: “He did that because two Iraqi nationals came to this country, joined ISIS, traveled back to the Middle East to get trained and refine their terrorism skills and come back here, and were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green massacre of taking innocent soldiers' lives away.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/06/kellyanne-conways-bowling-green-massacre-wasnt-a-slip-of-the-tongue-shes-said-it-before/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.fc326d89ca10

[Squinch]

65. Twice before. There was a third interview where she said it. She's just a pile of fake news.

[n2doc]

26. "Lock Her Out!"

[lark]

27. Oh please, CNN ban her.

That way I can listen longer. Every time I see her orange maw moving, I have to turn the tv off because she's just lying and then lying some more to cover up the first set of lies. I do the same whenever I see her boss, so watch little news. I did notice over the weekend that CNN would go for longer stretches of time without either of these assfaces being shown on the screen. It was such a relief, I watched more tv news than I have at any time since the election.

I know the criminal is in charge, he stole it but he's got it now, I just can't stand seeing his smug, mean, hating, ugly lying assface in action.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

28. I think this would be good to ban her as a guest

Obviously they will still cover what she says and expose her "alternative facts," but they should not allow her to use their network as a means to spread misinformation and lies. That's all she does. This is also exactly how to get under Trump's skin. He LOVES attention. The less attention he and his band of idiots get the better...it pisses him off. This is how the press can remind him he needs to respect the 1st Amendment and freedom of the press. They are free to NOT show his crap on TV. Nothing upsets Trump more than getting no attention.

[democratisphere]

29. Hope it is so. We are already bombarded with alternative facts from this rouge administration.

[Warpy]

30. They've had so many right wingers on over the years without a shred of credibility

and have failed to contradict obvious, blatant lies that I think something else is going on with Conway.

For one thing, she's looking rather haggard these days and likely wouldn't be good for ratings.

For another, this is sticking a pin into the ugly man's ego, and that is probably very good for ratings.

[NewJeffCT]

31. CNN will just bring in Corey Lewandowski or Omarosa

to be her replacement.

[Chevy]

32. Lord Jeffery and the rest of the

sycophantic,pathological, propagandists should be barred to.

[niyad]

33. she should have been banned a long time ago. hey, cnn, had you done your damned jobs

in the first place, instead of humping donnie's leg for 18 months, we would not be in this mess now.

[HAB911]

34. 6 months late..........n/t

[ananda]

35. I wish we could ban Trump and his whole administration ..

.. from DC due to a mental plague outbreak.

[watoos]

38. CNN, don't make me laugh.

All of the cable news network's business was up 40% or more last year because of their coverage of Trump.
The M$M gave Donald Trump 2 billion dollars of free air time, the M$M is a main reason that Donald Trump is president.

I look at this as another publicity stunt. Cable news is owned and controlled by corporate interests who control the narrative. There are a few reporters on cable news who stray from the narrative but not many, personally re: CNN, I like Don Lemon.

This topic is a perfect example of controlling the narrative. We are talking about whether CNN is guilty of suppressing free speech instead of talking about the narrative it pushes every day.

Oh to have a truly liberal cable news network, what a dream, ehh?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. By time tRump is impeached, he'll be begging to get staff on CNN & MSNBC. . . nt

[Mime-Is-Money]

40. Banning Conway is lazy. Keep her on as much as possible and call out her lies and idiocy.

DO YOUR JOB MEDIA!!!

I can't believe Matthews didn't push her on Bowling Green. So inept.

[ailsagirl]

41. Let's hope so

[logosoco]

44. As much as I can't stand this woman, I am thinking they should do the opposite.

Put her on as much as possible and show how she is just a head full of talking points. She makes herself look bad pretty much every time she talks.
"Give 'em enough rope and they will hang themselves"

Isn't that the job of journalists?

(disclaimer: I stopped watching cable news a long time ago.)

[ck4829]

50. Would be nice.

[unblock]

51. what makes her so special?

i mean, sure she lies, but why let on all the other republican hacks who lie every bit as much?

starting with donnie himself. talk about zero credibility!

[adigal]

53. I hope they do ban her, but they still have that Jeffrey Lord on!! Propagandist!!! nt

[tavernier]

56. He always looks constipated,

like he has important "stuff" to say, but once he speaks, it doesn't really sound important or credible.

[Cha]

57. She Lied about this Too..

Link to tweet

she keeps digging.. I hope she doesn't run out of shovels..

Con said "Bowling Green Massacre" a 3rd time on TMZ..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/06/kellyanne-conways-bowling-green-massacre-wasnt-a-slip-of-the-tongue-shes-said-it-before/?utm_term=.3339804dd159

[blueseas]

59. +1

thanks

[Faux pas]

60. Kickin' with gusto!

[bucolic_frolic]

61. "Credibility" is a sign of real progress

For a network to consider using such a term after 15 years of permitting
every lame-brained biased right wing wacko idea to have air time in the
interest of so-called balance is really something off the charts

There just is no balance when one guest hews to common sense middle-
of-the-road humdrum facts and sounds reasonable while the other is way
out there with flame-throwing excitability and bombast

This is good news

[randr]

66. Any piece of mouth candy Trump puts out that blatantly lies should be banned from public airways

on all networks

[Lifelong Protester]

68. Can she be banned from the human species??

[pansypoo53219]

69. too late assholes.

[Bear Creek]

71. Another massacre

Philadelphia, PA, 300 German Americans had been murdered in front of Independence Hall, according to Goring. The nazis had fanciful thinking that bedazzled Germans. (In the Garden of Beasts) repeating a lie over and over is a way to get people to think it is real.

[mdbl]

74. EVERYONE WHO THINKS CNN IS WRONG TO BAN ALT FACT TALKERS PLEASE READ THIS!

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/normalization-lesson-munich-post/

If you have already read this. Thanks!

[Turbineguy]

75. When someone says you have no credibility,

try and lie your way out of it.