So we're going to hear endlessly about the botched Yemen raid that killed a Navy SEAL, wounded

[ehrnst]

three more, got thirty civilians killed, and lost a $70 million helicopter, right? There will be six separate Special Committees in the House to find out why the Administration failed so spectacularly, and every person who ever said "Benghazi!" is now going to prove they aren't mindless partisan hypocrites by demanding that Donald be held accountable for this catastrophic failure, right?

Right?

[Angry Dragon]

1. I wonder if you are dreaming??

[Achilleaze]

30. IOKIYAR

[riversedge]

2. I have been thinking the same.. Years of Benghazi, yet no investigation proposed from Repugs

on this botched Yemem raid!

[uponit7771]

3. +1, then we can talk about Chafeitz's (sp) private email account too !!!

[GusBob]

4. Worse yet will be the over compensatory reaction of Bannon

There will be a bigger raid soon to make up for this failure

[blue neen]

5. Fox News will find a way to discuss the Yemen Raid during every segment.

Day after day, hour after hour. Right wing hate radio will discuss the Yemen Raid endlessly.

[toddwv]

6. Notice how you haven't heard about Benghazi since the election.

I think that should give the answer.

[malaise]

7. Yemengazi?

Don't hold your breath - this was supposed to be his Osama bin Laden moment . Ah well.

[liquid diamond]

33. Lol. Thanks. I needed that.

[malaise]

34. LOL

[Fast Walker 52]

64. does killing an 8 year old American girl count for anything?

[malaise]

68. No

She's a Muslinm

[Jim Beard]

84. I remember the right wingers in Reagans White House were really happy......

that while there was an attack on one of Kadaffis compound to kill the Libyan dictator failed, they cheered at news that they killed his granddaughter.

[Bucky]

69. Yemenghazigate

[Bucky]

72. Yemenghazibowlinggreenpizzaparlorgate

[malaise]

80. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[CrispyQ]

76. That sounds like some awful kind of venereal disease.

[malaise]

81. Well

Groper Don the Con did say that venereal disease was his Vietnam - so his administration is our syphilis.

[DinahMoeHum]

8. Nah, they'll try to blame this on Obama.

They'll claim Obama deliberately set Trump up to fail.

Obama's administration had considered and planned for such a raid earlier, but put it off on the advice of the Pentagon and due to insufficient intelligence.

In essence:
OBAMA said NO due to insufficient/bad intelligence.
Trump said YES due to NO intelligence.

[Ilsa]

15. Yep. A person from the O Adm just said

that PBO had not signed off on the attack because there wasn't enough intel.
Trump and his posse will lie about it every time it's mentioned.

[Mr. Ected]

9. Where is the "left-leaning" media? Where is the outrage from our Democratic Congressmen and -women?

Benghazi! was a joint effort of the right wing media and Congress.

We have a choice: commit to play the same game, or act like adults and go high when they go low.

After 8 years of Republican obstruction and lies, I'm content with the former over the latter.

[Blue_true]

35. Democrats don't attempt to capitalize on the

Deaths of American soldiers or CIA agents. Republicans do shamelessly try to capitalize on any death where a Democrat can be blamed. Republicans are soulless and immoral, I don't think we should act like them, in this case, just to settle scores.

[Oneironaut]

10. No, because this will become commonplace.

The military is Trump's cannon-fodder now, and he doesn't care.

[sinkingfeeling]

11. Whatever you're high on, I want some

[MFM008]

12. THIS

[svpadgham]

42. I can't wait

until Lil' Donnie sends in Optimus Prime and Panthro in the Thunder-tank to really let Cobra Commander have it.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

46. Oh come on now

He went to military school and won a medal for keeping his room clean.

[mfcorey1]

13. They are plotting how to convince their base that it is Obama's fault.

[dalton99a]

14. A raid casually approved while Trump & Gang were shoveling food in their mouths

[Cha]

16. We should be!

[hibbing]

17. It's because of our depleted military

That's my guess on how they will blame the former president. Also to use to justify our always increasing military budget.

Peace

[wildeyed]

18. They already tried to blame it on Obama,

They lost their favorite pivot and now they got NOTHING.

[MaeScott]

19. Absolutely yes. nt

[spanone]

20. if this happened on Hillary's watch, chaffetz would be drooling....partisan fucks

[Blue_true]

36. Chaffetz has a face that looks like a possum's face. nt

[murielm99]

71. I was taught that

all God's creatures are beautiful. I can't say I believe that about possums. They look more like God's mistake.

[Warren DeMontague]

21. Good one!

yeah, that'll happen.

[lpbk2713]

22. Trumpass will take the same way out that Dumbya did.

[OldRedneck]

23. What are you smoking?

Whatever it is, it's some good shit!!!

[Mc Mike]

24. Of course, the repugs would be supremely lying hypocrites if there weren't. nt.

[orangecrush]

25. Kick

And rec forever.

[linnknee]

26. MSM needs to bring it up all the time like Fox did wit Benghazi.

We need to have protest signs talking about the loss of the navy seal because of the lazy idiot that is now POTUS by stealing the election from Hillary. Every protest must be about the subject but we to also bring up all the other issues we have with DAY GLO DONNIE. We need to use social media and write to newspapers and our congress people and bring up all the issues.

It would probably be a good idea if everyone used Facebook to post a certain amount of items a day, twitter, and other social media. Plus we send a postcard or call our state government officials at least twice a day.

That's where we failed, FOX News, and their talk radio syndicate brainished the brain dead midwest and the under educated of the major cities.

[gratuitous]

27. Kinda makes you wonder . . .

The Yemen raid was in the works for months, according to available sources. The Obama administration didn't authorize it, who can say why. Maybe the risk wasn't worth the reward. Maybe there were too many variables to estimate the chances of success. Maybe they were waiting for a moonless night, which wasn't going to happen until the new administration took over.

Whatever the reason, the plan for the raid stayed on someone's to-do list. Did the military approach the Trump administration, or was it vice versa? If the military initiated the contact, was it because someone really wanted to get the raid done, and the Obama folks were too wise to the lies to be taken in after eight years? Did whoever broached the subject figure that the inexperienced Trump team wouldn't know enough to ask the right questions*, or understand the answers?

But what if it was Trump's people who contacted the military? "Hey we need to rack up a military win to stem all the negative press. Whatcha got?" Would a military planner who knew better put troops in harm's way just to pull Trump's fat out of the fire? Or would a military planner who had been stumping for the Yemen raid think that his time had come at last to put his cunning plan into action?

For all the "lingering questions" and "shadows dogging Hillary Clinton" from the Benghazi nothingburger, the complete incuriosity of the media is kind of weird. I fully expect congressional Republicans to work double time to ignore the Great Yemen Clusterfuck, but that doesn't mean the popular media need to give this fiasco a pass.

*Or any questions at all, for that matter.

[KittyWampus]

38. IMO, Bannon and/or Flynn were looking for something splashy that they could use

to give Trump some credibility.

[brush]

55. Let me get this straight. The mission was to swoop in and grab up cell phones, laptops and tablets..

for the information on them. They weren't going in for a high-value target or to rescue someone?

Ridiculous.

No wonder O turned it down.

[Horse with no Name]

39. actually this was just addressed on Chris Hayes

several plans were presented to Obama and he turned them all down.
This is all on trump.

[Lucky Luciano]

28. Crickets...

[jmg257]

29. I hope so - need to know how a mission planned for months went that wrong.

[CanonRay]

31. Did you turn blue yet?

[WinkyDink]

32. It's already yesterday's news. Or, rather, never news. And Obama planned it! Oh, and BENGHAZI!

[ProfessorGAC]

66. You Forgot Emails, Winky

Oh, and Kenya and Rev Wright.

But, nothing to see here.

[WinkyDink]

83. I'll bet the MISSING 30,000 EMAILS revealed Obama's Kenyan birth certificate!

[TrollBuster9090]

37. Form a SELECT COMMITTEE and subpoena Bannon's emails IMMEDIATELY!!!

NOT!!!

[Wounded Bear]

40. In a month, they'll be talking about how they thwarted the Yemeni invasion...

[lastlib]

41. Riii-iight!

Yeah, sure, uh-huh, we'll get right on it, yup, you betcha, *believe me*.............

[elias7]

44. I think you're missing the point

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

49. I was going to say that, but whenever someone's first post is critical of DUers,

I tend to think it's not really someone who's planning to stick around. (Or at least someone who we'll be sorry if they do.)

[WinkyDink]

47. I guess you don't remember the BIG DEAL made of Clinton's Somalia venture? "Blackhawk Down"?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

62. I'm not gonna try to look like some kind of expert. Just two points...

What did the commanders ask for that they didn't receive?

The commanders were ordered out. No advice, no requests permitted.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me about how much they cared the last time a SEAL was killed before Trump was president...

I've been here a long time; every time there's been military loss of life, people here on DU have cared. A LOT.

And for civilian losses, too. (Your posts didn't mention concern for civilians caught in the attack that trump & friends carried out, willfully isolating themselves from the commanders' advice, defying required protocol.)

[murielm99]

75. There are a lot of former military people on DU

as well. And some here have family in the military. We care about the loss of human life, military or civilian. I have never seen anyone here on DU express anything but concern over the losses.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

82. Yep. Exactly.

Oh, I forgot Auto-Removed's name.

Shame about that...I purposefully responded on specific points he made, hoping to get a reply.

[braddy]

77. Because our GIs were refused American armor.

[Demit]

53. It's being called a botched mission because everything went wrong.

What would you call it? A successful mission?

[joshcryer]

54. Why not have an investigation to find out?

For instance, the intercept that their helicopters were heard coming in was a very important piece of intel. Why did they continue to go in?

That's the point of the OP. Benghazi was a terrorist attack where basically our hands were tied and the Republicans had committee after committee trying to determine "what went wrong." They interviewed Clinton for like 10+ hours over it.

[brush]

56. Enjoy your visit. Watch the door on the way out.

[niyad]

73. hmmmm. . . .

[WinkyDink]

45. Bueller? Bueller?

[WinkyDink]

48. Here's the difference in character: JFK never once mentioned that the Bay of Pigs was Ike/Nixon's.

[Amimnoch]

50. Oh, did that happen??

Based on broadcast news, and front pages stories from every single major news source that I've looked at so far this morning, I can't even tell that this happened.

Now.. I do know peeresident rumpus made an ass out of himself at some kind of early morning cult ceremony, and said bad things about Arnold.

I know the 3rd lady selected her chief of staff.

I know rump insulted the PM of Australia.

I know that the Berkely protest is another sign of "radical liberal extremism".

I know that rumpus went to pay tribute to a dead seal (but missing the information that the seal is dead because of rumpus giving the okay to go with the raid despite not having the support or information he should have had).

But the failed raid, and the complete failure of the CMC in pushing this raid forward? Curiously absent.

The fuckers are going burying it, and there seems to be very little apetite out there to push it. Disgusting.

[jmg257]

52. Well - CNN was just putting the notion to bed that this was a 'blame it on trump fiasco'.

So I doubt it will be headline news for long.

[rtracey]

57. no

No because not enough Americans were killed, just 1, now if 5 were, then there should be Benghazi hearings all over the place. Lets see if Gowdy and Chavez are gearing up their committees... has anyone asked? hmmmmm

[lillypaddle]

58. um, no. nt

[workinclasszero]

59. Of course!

[treestar]

60. Hillary was said to have killed the victims

Donald killed a young girl and a soldier and had the nerve to go to Dover when the body of the man he murdered came in.

That's how the deplorables talked about Benghazi.

[niyad]

74. and wasn't he saying how "beautiful" it was-- have no idea WHAT was beautiful--the

dead body, what??

[HopeAgain]

61. The Administration had to act

the masterminds of the Bowling Green Massacre were thought to be hiding there in Yemen...

[Fast Walker 52]

63. we shouldn't forget that Trump's great raid caused the death of an 8 year old American girl

doesn't get much more sad, and pathetic than that.

[nikibatts]

65. I sent e-mails and tweets to all the Benghazi investigators. No responses.

[niyad]

70. oh, dear, I see that your little pills have worn off. time to up the dosage.

[doc03]

78. Well I brought that up with a Trumpster this morning. He said we lost a helicopter when they

took out Bin Laden. I guess that is the Fox News meme.

[demigoddess]

79. not when a MAN does it. don't you know.