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(7,286 posts)Seriously, her emails
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,170 posts)Racist Bannon tells Donny Quest all he needs to know
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)You weren't saying it loud enough!
Sanity Claws
(21,852 posts)Who proposed it?
Kingofalldems
(38,469 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,383 posts)he gets Barron and Bannon confused frequently.
adigal
(7,581 posts)And he did. Was is purposefully???
War criminal
IronLionZion
(45,516 posts)who was probably guilty of something according to Trump's people
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,033 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,502 posts)elleng
(131,077 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)That the military refuses him.. and turns against him/them..
elleng
(131,077 posts)Nitram
(22,861 posts)GP6971
(31,203 posts)who these military officials were. They took a huge risk.
brush
(53,839 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,829 posts)In fact, "intelligence" seems to be a foreign concept to him.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)unfit to command
Separation
(1,975 posts)The raid was postponed until the next moonless cycle which would put it into Trumps administration.
With that being said, in my opinion (and we all know how much that is worth). Trump hasn't filled his cabinet yet, and droves of intelligence analysts have left. There should have been more eyes on this than there were. This part here is not Trump's fault, the mission should have been scrubbed once they knew that they were being tracked incoming. That lays at the foot of the mission commander. But, as the ol saying goes, "The buck stops here".
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...how was he to know?
And, oh yeah, BENGHAZI, motherfucker.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)BainsBane
(53,056 posts)Many more will die too.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)spanone
(135,861 posts)dalton99a
(81,568 posts)True Dough
(17,314 posts)Drumpf is in waaaaaay over his head, and statements like that one make him look even more foolish.
malaise
(269,157 posts)He knows everything about everything - NOT
Girard442
(6,083 posts)Soldiers would rather die under Bush{Trump} than live under Clinton{Obama}.
No, it doesn't make any sense to me either.
miss Terry and his best ever site.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)That was a link to a page for a fantasy and sci-fi writer.
Though I do believe it, could you please post a reuter link?
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,469 posts)benld74
(9,909 posts)Obama held off to get more information B4 committing.
DT decided it was enough
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,436 posts)instead of cautious and thorough (which Republicans regularly call "weak"
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)brush
(53,839 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)And his supporters love it! We're not afraid to get our hair mussed, as long as it's one of our chattle getting killed.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)I am so sorry for that service person's family.
Quixote1818
(28,960 posts)LostinRed
(840 posts)If it was president Hillary Clinton the hearing would have Started today.
harun
(11,348 posts)Flatpicker
(894 posts)Doesn't have the attention span for due diligence.
Ilsa
(61,697 posts)is what Hubby said. He isn't smart enough or patient enough.
Now that the military sees that they are screwed, theyll be more circumspect about his insane orders.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)haele
(12,674 posts)Flynn is supposed to be Drumpf's National Security Guru because he rose to be a leadership fail in the DNI before he was kicked out.
Bannon (We'll be at war with China over the South China Sea soon)'s seven years as a failure as an officer in the U.S. Navy as well as failure as a psych experiment project leader in Biodome 2 is the reason he's Drumpf's Strategy and probably Military advisor.
Haele
Kingofalldems
(38,469 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)INCREDIBLE amounts.....
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)will only get worse. Trump is proving that he is totally heartless.
Purrfessor
(1,188 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,726 posts)sad
triron
(22,019 posts)Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)uponit7771
(90,359 posts)czarjak
(11,287 posts)Created 1,000 new ones. Thanks Trump.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts).....step forward and expose this loudly and do their higher duty of protecting the country from this madman.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)If the media does it's job though, this could be a significant blow for the upcoming 2017 elections.
AJT
(5,240 posts)rpannier
(24,336 posts)Or some movie about a failed military engagement and thought "What a great idea."
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)One slightly addled soldier drops in and almost single handily, takes out two enemy brigades and the Russians advising the enemy. Trump is going to get people killed.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)#TRUMPGHAZI
NBachers
(17,135 posts)because trump and his jingos have their fingerprints all over it.
"thoroughly vetted by the previous administration and that the previous defense secretary had signed off on it in January"
See? It's all Obama's fault.
brush
(53,839 posts)NBachers
(17,135 posts)brush
(53,839 posts)ffr
(22,671 posts)Surprised more aren't screaming that from rooftops too.
The KGOP better be able to take it, because I'm ready to dump on 'em.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)get told to suit up and get on the aircraft to be dropped somewhere to shoot people.
wishstar
(5,271 posts)Ball was tossed into Trump's court who mishandled it
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)We both know this is a bullshit story. Presidents don't get involved in operational planning.
Unnamed sources say something bad about Trump and half the members here throw common sense and critical thinking right out the window.
More plainly this is pretty much the same thing the right did when there was a bullshit negative story about President Obama.
brush
(53,839 posts)Presidents don't get involved in operational planning but they do access all the info and intel and make the final decision as to whether to okay the operation.
Obama rejected it.
Trump okayed it, trying to make a big splash to show what a strong, decisive leader he is (translation: trying to upstage Obama and his Bin Laden success).
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Any reviews are done at a much lower level by military professionals with training and experience in these sorts of operations
Do you really think any President and Cabinet members have hours every day to review the various details of every single military operation going on in the Middle East.
To put a different way, do you think the CEO of Ford has the time or training to oversee the autoworkers assembling a car or the accountants doing the books or the HR dept doing whatever it is HR people do?
brush
(53,839 posts)is fake news now? Read for yourself. trump fucked up.
That shouldn't be a surprise. Look at how his first two weeks in office has gone. And look at how he's alienated the president of Mexico, Australia, and Merkel of Germany.
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-officials-trump-ordered-raid-in-yemen-that-killed-us-navy-seal-was-approved-without-sufficient-intelligence-2017-2
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Did you also automatically believe the fake story about the Man who claimed mom died in Iraq after Trump's ban?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You're not doing a very credible job at supporting your premise with evidence. Mere suppositions and the petulance of "do you also believe...?", while worthy of a third grade debate team, is far below the standard of adult conversation.
Though no doubt, you'll rationalize otherwise, regardless of your curiosity or beliefs.
Kingofalldems
(38,469 posts)brush
(53,839 posts)And why are you defending trump? He screwed up. No surprise there. He's screwed up how many businesses, how many bankruptcies has he had running casinos, for God's sake?
All of a sudden he stops screwing up just because he "won" the White House?
Not a chance.
Here's another link. "The Guardian" has it too. trump, Bannon and Kushner were all involved.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028583828
Kingofalldems
(38,469 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You vague, unsupported premise is both vague and unsupported... like a bumper sticker.
braddy
(3,585 posts)SunSeeker
(51,662 posts)Trump needed more "winning."
Are we tired of winning yet?
Nitram
(22,861 posts)Now how's that working out for him?
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)The Congressional Armed Services Committees need to investigate.
caraher
(6,279 posts)That will be Trump's method for the foreseeable future, unfortunately. Because if you ask him, he is so "smart" he has no need of intelligence.
47of74
(18,470 posts)The ready and aim come only after our own forces and innocent children have been hurt or killed.
world wide wally
(21,754 posts)Azathoth
(4,611 posts)MFM008
(19,818 posts)I like it.
wishstar
(5,271 posts)They can't blame Pres. Obama, since he had decided against it until intelligence was better etc.
Trump was sure Obama was not being aggressive enough and went ahead anyway despite Obama's doubts.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/world/middleeast/donald-trump-yemen-commando-raid-questions.html
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Awful. They should get reparations.
Mike Nelson
(9,966 posts)...Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!
Now, shouldn't they be screaming, "Lock him up?"
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)the freakin Republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief.
Ilsa
(61,697 posts)Maybe they told him it was too risky and they were waiting on more intel, but he didn't hear what he wanted to hear. He was too impatient and got one team member killed and others injured.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)President Barack Obamas national security aides had reviewed the plans for a risky attack on a small, heavily guarded brick home of a senior Qaeda collaborator in a mountainous village in a remote part of central Yemen. But Mr. Obama did not act because the Pentagon wanted to launch the attack on a moonless night and the next one would come after his term had ended.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/world/middleeast/donald-trump-yemen-commando-raid-questions.html
Who the fuck in J-SOC was planning this raid without proper intel??
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)and the first casualties of his hideous presidency are rolling in.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)I am not in favor of war, but the only wars ever won...were won by the Democrats...the only exception being the Civil war.
Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)Etc.
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,258 posts)and the right wing noise machine would be screaming 24/7
Squinch
(50,993 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)To back him if he tries to pull a coup to stay in office
Javaman
(62,533 posts)Trumped up beyond all recognition.
Botany
(70,567 posts)Can we get a Benghazi like investigation into this now?
perdita9
(1,144 posts)Or will they just obsess about Benghazi again?
DemoTex
(25,400 posts)Nevermind.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)This is what happens when the president has no governmental or military experience and a shoot-from-the-hip management style. He's a REALITY TV SHOW HOST! What did they THINK was going to happen
And now he has his political flunkies on the NSA? Gonna be interesting when the GOP has to explain this to the American people if we have a major terror attack
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Orrex
(63,220 posts)herding cats
(19,567 posts)Link to tweet
/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
If the image isn't shown above, I'm guessing they might have twitter blocked on your network.
Orrex
(63,220 posts)Thanks for trying, though!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)election, and BOTH TIMES he was unreasonably nasty & arrogant & WRONG! Looks like another BAD PICK by the Con!
I tried to copy & paste that post by Deanna Hoak, but it's blocked. Wanted to send it to my son who's a Con supporter & in Afghanistan. >We don't talk politics because we know we're on opposite sides, but when I find stuff like this, I just email him a copy. No fighting, just info, but I know he gets the message.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Silly question. It's still all Hillary's fault
Nitram
(22,861 posts)...the Commander-in-Chief's role in a military operation?
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I bet He thought the Navy SEALS were nearly invincible like in the movies or it'd be like an episode of "The A-Team".
I guess he didn't learn all that much from his time at the military school his dad sent him too as a misbehaving teenager...
Unfortunately real people have to die as a result of his ineptitude.
catbyte
(34,437 posts)Republicans would be howling their outrage, discussing impeachment, and have at least a dozen Congressional "hearings" already scheduled. Because it's Der Drumpfenfuhrer? Crickets.
Kingofalldems
(38,469 posts)AnnieBW
(10,450 posts)He didn't even show up in the Situation Room to watch the op in real time.
liberal N proud
(60,340 posts)And he will tell you that without you even asking.