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highplainsdem

(49,034 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 04:11 PM Feb 2017

John Schindler on Bannon's warmongering against China




Bannon, now on the NSC, predicts war with China rather soon, eg SCS conflict resulting in war. Seems important.












This is even more important than it seems. Lemme unpack a bit of strategy+ war-planning here, public needs to know.






Long-term prob in any war w/PRC: What does victory look like? We're not invading the mainland, so how does it end?






Short-term is just as bad, maybe worse. War's job No 1 is defeating the Chinese navy in the waters off East Asia.






We can do this, but all PACOM plans call for immediate strikes on Chinese mainland vs C2 nodes, missiles, et al.






We say this pretty openly, and Beijing has sure noticed. PLA says they will retaliate vs the US mainland ie CONUS.






But PLA has no conventional strike able to hit CONUS in any meaningful way. They will have to use nuke ICBM/SLBMs.






So we hit mainland PRC to stop the Chinese navy, then Beijing nukes LA. BOOM. PLA folks have said this quite openly.






This is neither a joke nor a game. This is reality. Bannon & the Trump flake factory need to chill the f*ck out NOW.






Beijing doesn't want all-out war. Neither did anybody in 1914. Events just take over sometimes. Have a nice day.
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John Schindler on Bannon's warmongering against China (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2017 OP
Trump will get us all killed C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #1
And the last n/t Jeroen Feb 2017 #2
California may have to secede to prevent it. roamer65 Feb 2017 #3
Incidentally, he was also calling out Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #4
Biggest Blue state in the nation.. California workinclasszero Feb 2017 #5
I think we have underestimated the range of Chinese missiles. roamer65 Feb 2017 #6
Pretty sure they can. Even if they don't go nuke, there are 500lb conventional weapons that haele Feb 2017 #7
China will go west. Straight for the oil. roamer65 Feb 2017 #9
I thought I read they could only reach the west coast workinclasszero Feb 2017 #8

C_U_L8R

(45,020 posts)
1. Trump will get us all killed
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 04:17 PM
Feb 2017

And could very easily become the greatest mass murderer in history. Fucking bigly.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. Incidentally, he was also calling out
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:35 PM
Feb 2017

the Snowden charade long before it was cool... He was way ahead of that game.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. Biggest Blue state in the nation.. California
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:38 PM
Feb 2017

All the west coast Democratic blue bastion. All directly in the path of hundreds of Chinese nuclear missiles.

Now I get why Bannon and Trump want to go to war with China!

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
6. I think we have underestimated the range of Chinese missiles.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:05 PM
Feb 2017

I believe they are fully capable of hitting any American target.

haele

(12,676 posts)
7. Pretty sure they can. Even if they don't go nuke, there are 500lb conventional weapons that
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:26 PM
Feb 2017

can level small cities and critical infrastructure that can be loaded into ICBM/sub-space type weaponry. And then there are other hostile tactics they can use without "declaring war" - maybe they can launch a "commercial use orbital device" that suddenly explodes over North America triggering a high altitude EMP.
Or maybe several of our critical commercial and communication satellites suddenly disappear out of orbit.


Pretty they're keeping Mattis out of the loop with this, if it is going on in the Oval Office. The people who know him tell me that despite his nickname, he's no Jack Ripper, and understands enough to know this is global suicide.
Would like to know if Putin really understands what's going on, or is just as stupid as Flynn when it comes to even a low level nuclear war. Even though Russia and China have an uncomfortable relationship, they both have understanding of how a real War with the billions of people and resources China can field will end up.
After a while, China will overwhelm you with the sheer numbers. Unless you go big time nuclear - and if you do that, you will destroy yourself and pretty near every other lifeform on earth. Just for pride?

Bannon is living in a past era fantasy. Unless he is so self-absorbed, he really does want the fabled Armageddon to take everything out with him when it's time for him to go, he doesn't have clue one how the world really works.

Haele

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
9. China will go west. Straight for the oil.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:47 PM
Feb 2017

Yes, it can be safely assumed in any nuclear exchange that the first one will be an aerial burst to kill all electronics and communication equipment.

Next up are military targets, followed by industrial targets.

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