He will get his SC Justice...and a lot more.

[maxrandb]

Sorry, the time to fight was November 2016. We can protest. We can gnash our teeth. We can hold our breath until we turn blue, but it is not going to change anything.

Trump will get his SC pick…and maybe 1 or 2 more.

Trump will get his sick “effing” cabinet that can begin demolishing all the progress we’ve made over the past 50-100 years.

Trump will get his “anti-Civil Rights” Attorney General.

He will get his “anti-Public Education” Education Secretary.

He will get his “anti-environment” EPA Director…if we still have one.

He will get his “anti-worker” Labor Secretary.

Hell, he may even get his stupid “effing” wall.

Oh, and I’m sorry to break it to you, but that Dakota Access Pipeline? Yes, he’ll get that too, or at least the construction will begin to move forward.

He and the Retrumplicans don’t give a crap how many protesters are in the streets. To them, the more protesters that are out, the better their policies are working.

That’s reality folks.

And, to those saying “Democrats better fight”? well, to paraphrase our new “Supreme Leader”; “Go ‘eff’ yourselves”

I’m not sure what you expect.

Dems have a 50 seat minority in the House.

Dems have a 2 seat minority in the Senate.

Dems have 15 of 50 state legislatures.

Telling Dems to “fight” is like telling Betty White to get in the ring with Mike Tyson and “fight”

Telling Dems to “fight” is like putting kryptonite in Superman’s shorts and then telling him to “save the world”. No, it’s even worse than that. It’s like sending a puppy to stop a locomotive, and then getting mad at the puppy when it can’t stop the train.

We need to accept that the shoe is on the other foot now. It is Democrats who need us to fight.

Our next battle is 2018.

Sure, we can have some skirmishes between now and then. Run a guerilla warfare operation in some places. Voice our dissent with our voices, our wallets and our feet. We may even scrape out a victory every now and then, but it won’t change anything until we turn our voices, our wallets and our feet into weapons at the ballot box.

We have one job. Just one "effing" job! Organize, motivate, communicate, speak-out, register and VOTE

[JustAnotherGen]

1. Except the TEA Party

Was very very effective in 2010 after a couple of years of continous assault on their members of the house, taking over town/borough councils and school boards, and driving the national discussion in their favor - as well as smearing their 'enemies' .

Nah - I'm not waiting until 2018. I want Leonard Lance to stroke out before then and I'm not shy about saying it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

3. they were effective but could not stop Holder, Kagan, or Sotomayor

[JustAnotherGen]

5. Yep!

So we have to get on the ground NOW. Waiting around until next January to get going is insane.


I seriously - I know it's dark - but in our district in our wide network of activism circles - I truly believe we can get Lance to stroke out before November 2018.

He's never encountered such cruel and vicious activists. It's been hunky dory okay fine for him.

Not anymore.

This is New Jersey.

We are going to be vile and mean to him.

[former9thward]

56. You may be New Jersey but he is a New Yorker.

New Yorkers live to be insulted.

[JustAnotherGen]

59. I'm from there

But Leonard Lance is not. Every Wednesday we are up in his grill. We have several action groups that assault his phone lines, go to his offices, go to his home.

We break the mentally weak bastards one by one.

And remember - Trump does not like to be made fun of -- at all.

Harden your heart and go after all of them. After 8 years of bullshit - they have it coming. Including Melania who was in on the birther shit.

[Blue_true]

21. Your time would be better spent grass roots

Organizing. Help get people registered and set to vote. When we sit around whining about how hard republicans make it for us to vote, deplorables laugh at us, let's get lots of people registered and active voting then shove our feet up deplorables asses.

[JustAnotherGen]

60. Um

I formed the Indivisible group in my town. We already have our slate for council and school board.


Pretty sure Jacob will go up against Lance again.

You need to attend a how to run meeting - and decide which office you are going to run for or find candidates you want to run.

This state went Clinton. Republicans are mud. We have the might.

We will repudiate the deplorables by hiring the guy who worked for the guy who won the Presidency twice.

We don't have to wait two years - the race is on in 2017 . Primaries are in June. The voters registration was locked down in Q4.

[global1]

2. There Is A Silver Lining In This Cloud....

and that is that the Repug Party and Trump will overplay all you've posted in your OP and more - that the backlash from the American People will once and for all see them for what they are and vote them out into oblivion.

Remember - always tie everything Trump does and gets away with - with the Repug Party. They are joined at the hip.

Once the American People make that connection - the Repug Party is doomed.

[old guy]

8. Sounds great to me.

Unfortunately people have known this repub party for what they are for years and then elected tRump to execute, and I do mean execute, the cristo-fascist agenda. The party that is dying or dead is the Democratic party not because they outnumber us but because they have gained control of the voting process through gerrymandering, suppression and yes outright vote stealing. If they don't get what they want they change the rules to get it. We should resist everywhere anytime but the results won't change. I have no faith at all that people will make the connection in any significant numbers. IMO.

[global1]

12. We Lost To Trump Because We Didn't Campaign Against The Repug Party.....

instead we campaigned against a personality - Trump. He was out there campaigning to change D.C. and drain the swamp. He ran against Washington and status quo - and the Dems made the mistake of channeling all their energies against him personally. We didn't talk much about the fact that the Repugs sandbagged and gridlocked Washington and that they were the reason that the people wanted change. The people had change right in the palm of their hand with Obama - but he was stonewalled through his whole 2 terms by the Repugs.

The strategy of the Repugs to obstruct - broke Washington - and that was the very reason that they won big with Trump - because he campaigned for change - yet he was just a fox in the hen house.

The people that voted for him bought that crap without any regard to the fact that he was the Repug nominee. We didn't tie the Repug Party to him.

I believe now in these first 11 days of his presidency - that the People are finally understanding what a con he was and that he was just a front for the Repug Party.

We need to continue to tie him and the Repug Party together - so that when the 2018 election gets here that there will be a massive backlash to win back the Senate and House for the Dems.

[old guy]

15. As I said, what you say could very well be true,

but the plan doesn't address the gerrymandering, voter suppression and ballot box problems. Those problems we the people have no control over and anything that could be done won't happen in time to effect 2018.

[global1]

16. If We Can Get The People Out To Vote In Massive Numbers....

and I'm confident that Trump and the Repugs will help us do that - any gerrymandering, voter suppression and ballot box problems that the Repugs attempt - will not be enough for them.

[old guy]

17. I applaud and encourage your optimism,

I just don't share it.

[Blue_true]

25. Look.

They overplayed in 2005-2006 after Bush won a second term and republicans controlled Congress, lots of BoB and Green types forgot that when it was time to keep building on the progress that President Obama had made, those people helped take us back to make the mistake of 2000.

[Cosmocat]

36. Yeah, OK

See, 2006, 2008 and 2010 ...

Bush and the Rs lied the country into Iraq and left the country in financial ruin.

So, in 2006 and 2008, they country did the right thing and voted them out of control.

They threw a huge hissy fit 2009 to 2010 and because they were "mad" the country handed them the biggest mid term landslide in our lives, and spent the next 6 years giving them even more power.

They will NEVER be bad enough that this country won't indulge their jackassery.

Maybe they get time out for a couple of years, but they tune into the lesser spirits of humanity, and sadly that appeal has only grown over time here in the good old US of A.

[Blue_Tires]

4. My next battle is technically 2017

but I agree with your points...

[Blue_true]

26. Yes, we have some off year Governor's races.

Virginia, New Jersey and I think Florida are the big ones.

[sharp_stick]

6. We need to start taking back the States

Losing those is one of our biggest obstacles right now. In order to do that we're going to need to register people and make damned sure they have "approved" ID's and get to the polls.

We also have to realize that the fucking pukes will make sure the Dems have to stand in line at the polls while they're delicate little flower constituents get to walk in and out.

We absolutely need to be controlling a shitload more State Houses by 2020 when the next redistricting fight begins.

[Blue_true]

27. I live in a republican led state where the

Legislature has worked very hard to make voting difficult for some groups. Even with that, their voters INSIST on some conveniences like registering at the DMV or Main Library in every county and having early voting in every county for 12 hours per day, then voting on Election Day. We lose because our potential voters are not trying hard enough to defeat republican tactics. If republicans insist that you can only register if you have a leopard stripped ID, figure out how to get a leopard stripped ID and get registered. before the deadline, then VOTE in every election. Deplorables hate and fear us because they KNOW our numbers are much greater than theirs if we vote

[disillusioned73]

7. This is exactly..

what the corporate Democrats want us all to believe... so they can fold their cheap tents and allow trump to walk right through.. I say no - fight, and fight hard (even & especially when you lose) if you want any support in 2018 or going forward and if the party has any chance of surviving this... now is the time to find the party's voice, who are the ones that are just there for the paycheck and the "opportunities"..

Losing shows more of a persons true character than winning... I want to know what these people are made of

[Crunchy Frog]

9. Dems can't stop it, but they can let the Rs own it completely

by letting them do it without any Dem support.

If the Dems insist on going along to get along, after everything the Rs have done, they're not going to have anyone left to fight for them.

[Blue_true]

28. I agree. They should repeal Obamacare without

One single vote from a Democrat. They should get their appointees without one single vote from a democrat. They should have to use the nuclear option to get Gorsuch approved. Any Democrat hat votes with them on ANYTHING NEEDS to be primaried.

[onenote]

46. I take it you are advocating primaries for every Democrat in the Senate

Every Democrat in the Senate has cast at least one aye vote for at least one of Trump's cabinet nominees.

Do you really think it would be a good idea to mount primary campaigns against every single Democrat.
We're talking Sheldon Whitehouse. Kirsten Gillibrand Sherrod Brown. Bernie Sanders (okay, technically not a Democrat). Every. Single One.

Do you have any idea what a waste of resources, particularly money, that would be? How those resources could be better put to use both defending the seats we hold and trying to unseat Republicans?

Tough sounding talk usually doesn't hold up to the light.

[OldHippieChick]

10. Everything you say is probably true, but that is no reason

to capitulate or put our collective tails between our legs. We must continue to protest, march, write, call, text and speak out. We will not be effective in the motivation department unless we continue all of these and keep all his evil acts front and center. Besides helping our efforts for 2018, this will also make him more bonkers than he already is and will push the media to cover our opposition rather than his aristocracy.

[Blue_true]

29. Sorry, as Jan Brewer stated, votes are all that count.

People can protest, letter write and sign petitions all they want, republicans will ignore that or send cops out to pepper spray the protesters. Getting registered to vote and voting is what scares republicans, nothing else does.

[global1]

38. You Still Have To Convince People On Why They Should Vote....

so along with the protests, letter writing, petitions, call, text, voter registration campaigns and speaking out - we need to point out to potential voters how they've been wronged by the Repugs and Trump and how it effects them on a day to day basis. They need to be told that they have skin in the game and that things won't get better by sitting out an election. Not voting is shooting yourself in the foot.

Trump and the Repugs in just these short 12 days have supplied us with a ton of talking points we can illustrate this and I'm sure that it will only get better - cause they are power hungry now and will keep pulling more crap.

Every time Trump or the Repugs pull some crap - we need to call them out on it; show their hypocrisy and let people know how the crap the Repugs pull will have an effect on their day to day life. ACA is a good example of how we can point out to people how that action by the Repugs and Trump will directly effect their life. And given the cabinet appointments Trump has made - there will be ample examples to cite.

[OldHippieChick]

52. They continue to make it hard to vote and they are in control of

gerrymandering districts so they don't really worry about votes. We must do more.

[alarimer]

11. So we just give up?

I think the phone calls and protests are workings. Democrats have found a spine, at least on some things.

[maxrandb]

13. That's not my point

We should continue doing all that. Make Trump a prisoner in the White House, unable to even go to a fucking Golf Resort without catching a ration of shit.

But it's all moot unless we get the majority to check these pricks

Sorry for the language, but the Navy Sailor came out of me a little bit there.

[MoonRiver]

14. I think alarimer got your point.

[brush]

41. Don't get your contention on the SCOTUS justice. The filibuster still exists for SCOTUS ...

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appointments, unlike the other appointments on you list.

I don't want the Dems to just roll over on that. The repugs stole that appointment from O and we should fight to keep SCOTUS to eight justices just as the repugs did.

Don't cave on SCOTUS should be our rallying cry.

If they threaten to use the nuclear option we need to call their bluff.

I'm betting they won't as they know they won't be in power for forever.

[onenote]

47. If they use the nuclear option, it only will be for SCOTUS nominees

And they'll take the risk for what might happen down the road when a Democrat finally is in position to nominate a SCOTUS Justice again.

[brush]

49. Exactly, which is why I say the Dems should filibuster trumps SCOTUS picks and call their bluff

[Captain Stern]

48. They'll use the nuclear option without a second thought.

We are the ones that didn't use it, because we knew we wouldn't be in power forever.

We actually care about the future. They don't. They care about now. They might be able to put three justices on the Supreme Court before we even have a chance at taking back the Senate, and those justices will still be on the Supreme Court long, long, after we can.

[brush]

51. We still have to filibuster, call their bluff. Make them do it. If the Dems don't we will lose...

so many members and again be seen as spineless, and the repugs will have their SCOTUS picks anyway.

And who would blame anyone for it as we will again be shown to be weak and ready to cave at the drop of a hat whenever the repug bullies threaten us.

And if they do use the nuclear option, let them. They won't be in power for forever, and imo, that's why they won't do it.

[Blue_true]

32. No, we organize grass roots. Get people registered

To vote that Trump's policies hurt and work to keep them engaged to vote in all elections. Yeah, we can street protest, but did street protests end the Vietnam War? What ended the Vietnam War was Nixon's realization that he could be defeated at the polls if he was not making an effort to end the war.

[alarimer]

34. Much depends on what happens after the protests

I think it's the political pressure on top of the protests that works. But yeah, turnout is definitely key. My hope is that the Republicans keep overstepping (and Trump keeps being an unpopular ass) and that the Democrats make the Republicans OWN it (the ACA repeal and loss of health insurance, if it happens, - or even the threat of it- must be laid at the feet of Republicans).

[global1]

39. I Posted This Somewhere Before - Because Of The Control The Repugs Have....

the presidency, the House & the Senate - and soon SCOTUS - they will own anything that goes forward that turns to crap.

Thank Colin Powell for him saying - "You Break It - You Own It."

We just have to keep pointing out to the American People how the Repugs are breaking things and give them no excuses to try and wiggle out an blame Dems or Obama.

[Rustyeye77]

18. Youre bumming me out

[maxrandb]

24. Don't get bummed

In 2008 Dems had 67 Senators, a Majority in the House and the Presidency.

We just have to be as motivated, angry, organized and relentless as the T-baggers were.

Start with whatever you can.

If you've kept quiet on Facebook because you are a decent person, stop being quiet.

It's amazing how when you push back in their faces how quickly the right either shuts up or gets flustered.

That recording of Paul Ryan where he said; "it's a waste of my fucking time". The staffer who posted that should have NEVER APOLOGIZED!!!

Tell, me, when is the last time you heard a "bagger" apologize for anything???

Hell, even if it was proven that Ryan was not the one who said that, let me tell you what the "right-wingnuts" would have done with it if it were a Dem politician.

They would have run with it. You would have heard it repeated 24/7 on Faux News and Hate Radio. They would have whipped and rode that horse so fucking hard that the horse could suck buttermilk through a straw with it's ass by the time they were done.

If some wingnut in your High School, prior job or, military unit post some Breitbart crap on Facebook saying 91% of Mulsim immigrants are on Welfare, then post back that he should stop getting his news from the Hitler Youth. Call them out on their idiotic shit every damn day.

We need to turn the table on them and be as fucking nasty, obnoxious, deceitful and deviant as they are.

Don't let them get away with it. When you're at your schools PTA meeting and some pompous ass gets up and starts vomiting Rush Limbaugh talking points, loudly and forcefully tell him to "go eff themselves".

There is nothing wrong with telling a pompous ignorant ass that he is a pompous ignorant ass.

I took it for too long. I served this country in the Navy for 30 years, and I've had people tell me that I'm "anti-American" simply because I happen to be a proud liberal and Democrat. You know what...Fuck them!!!

Maybe we can go back to being "nice" after we've rescued our country.

[NewJeffCT]

31. Democrats never had 67 senators

they had 60 for several weeks from when Norm Coleman gave up his battles against Al Franken until Teddy Kennedy passed away.

[Blue_true]

33. We don't have to be obnoxious, deceitful or deceptive

But we damned well had better get better at being relentless. We need to register to vote in large numbers, show up at every election to vote in large numbers, NEVER miss a vote.

[Blue_true]

19. The interesting thing is the posters insistingDemocrats in Congress fight

Are the same people that played kiss face with the Jill Stein, Greenwald, Assange, Cornell West as that group of people launched a relentless attack on Hillary Clinton and Democrats leading up to November 8. We are screwed until 2020 when we have a chance to take the Oresidency and Congress, with maybe a super majority of Democrats in the House. But by 2020, Trump could have installed a extreme right super majority on the Supreme Court and Roe v Wade and LGBTQ rights could be dead for 40 years or more.

[Blue_true]

20. You will get at least one post about republicans

Making voting difficult. I live in a republican run county and state. My republican run state legislature has tried to make voting harder for some classes of voters, even with their efforts, registering and voting could not be easier for anyone that puts in a minimal effort. We have early voting from 8 to 8 for eleven days, THEN voting on Election Day. I know people that did not either register or vote - those people have nothing to complain about, they screwed themselves. Like Jan Brewer said about Hispanics in Arizona, she doesn't worry about them because they tend not to vote.

[okieinpain]

23. +1 n/t

[okieinpain]

22. great post. n/t

[Guilded Lilly]

30. All due respect..and I do respect your post...

Protesting, emailing, calling, petitions, marching, "postcard" gatherings, local meetings, social media linking, criticizing are essential to keeping the anger alive and waking sleeping voters until we CAN vote again.

I expect all of the above to BE respected as viable Actions to resist. I will not stop telling those that have more immediate power to FIGHT. I will not stop protesting.

I intend to keep it all up, wearily, every.single.day. that I am mentally and physically able.

That is what I expect.

[Blue_true]

35. You time is better spend going to your county

Democratic Party office and being part of an effort to find out where voter registration is weak, fixing that and putting on frequent neighborhood voter rallies where people in a precinct can come, hang out. If you want to write, put flyers that discuss local and national issues. Organize locally, rule nationwide.

[Guilded Lilly]

44. Which is why I said "local meetings".

[global1]

40. You Coined A Good Rallying Slogan....

"Keep Anger Alive"

When using this slogan - point out how they've been wronged by the Repugs and Trump and make the person angry - real angry.

It was anger like that - that got the Repugs out to vote. It was fueled not only by Trump - but by the 16 clowns in the clown car. All of them took shots at the Dems and Obama. It was also fueled by RW radio and TV talking heads. The MSM didn't help us either giving them all the air time.

We Dems are just too polite. Hillary was right calling them 'deplorables'. Her mistake was walking it back.

[Demsrule86]

42. He may get all those things but we can make him pay a price.

Make them break the filibuster.

[Joe941]

43. It is even worse than that...

The 2018 election has 33 senate seats up for election. Of those seats 23 are dem, 2 are independent (but vote with dems), and only 8 are Repubs. Sorry to say it, but tRump is going to have the senate for 4 years. Our only hope is to retake the house in 2018!

[BannonsLiver]

45. Gee, I'd never know you were a Browns fan

[Captain Stern]

50. That's pretty much it.

They wouldn't compromise with us when WE were in power, so they sure as hell aren't going to compromise with us when there's nothing we can do to stop them

[Cattledog]

53. Dems are down 47 in the house not 50.

[rwheeler31]

54. So much will depend on the economy

anyone of these people can be fired recalled or impeached. Start local

[onecaliberal]

55. They got all of that from cheating. They did not win a fair election, and millions are NOT

going to go along.

[stopbush]

57. Bingo! The best we can do is fight a rear guard action.

Not a effective strategy when your opponent is engaged in a scorched earth campaign.

[ck4829]

58. Our next battle is today. Until we fix the sham election process, it should be secondary.

[TheFrenchRazor]

61. that's why i think secession may be the only solution. but of course, dems would have fight for tha

fight for that too, so it is also never going to happen.