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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe only real hope I see is taking back the Senate in 2018.
If Schumer sets the agenda, he can block all of orange's SC picks indefinitely, no matter who of the current SC justices dies or retires. There is no constitutional requirement, that I know of, to have a certain number of judges on the court.
Girard442
(6,084 posts)It's a long shot, but people should get serious about getting some R senators to flip. Even if it was just one, it would seriously rattle Trump, and if one could do it...
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Who do you think might be open to switching?
karynnj
(59,504 posts)primaried out. There are not many likely candidates among the remaining Republicans. Susan Collins is often mentioned, but there have been few courageous votes -- just words of misgiving, followed by a Republican vote. The others mentioned - McCain, Graham, and Flake are not very promising. McCain, though always very popular with the media, is a very conservative Republican. Graham is approachable for Democrats, but he really is a Republican, who likely agrees more than disagrees.
I think we may eventually get the 3 votes on issues needed when the threshold is 50 votes -- but they may be different Senators in each case. Not to mention, it won't happen until and unless Trump becomes even more unpopular and they break ranks.
treestar
(82,383 posts)And set out to do it, no matter how unlikely it seems. Haven't we learned yet?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Gorsuch. Force McConnell to use the nuclear option, republicans will regret doing so.
treestar
(82,383 posts)thing in the long run. If not for the filibuster, we'd have gotten a public option in the ACA. The filibuster is undemocratic. However, I am not sure the Rs don't appreciate it enough not to use the nuclear option.
MichMary
(1,714 posts)The R's weren't going to vote for the ACA no matter what.
It was the conservative Democrats prevented a public option from happening. If they would have all supported everything that President Obama wanted we would have single payer. Many of them had to be bribed to get anywhere with the ACA.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Lieberman prevented us from having 60.
I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but as I remember it, After Senator Franken was sworn in we had 60 Ds in the Senate. After Senator Kennedy died, he was replaced by Scott Brown (R) who campaigned on being the 41st vote, the vote that would "kill the bill."
The ACA was passed through reconciliation, which meant that it couldn't be filibustered.
Abouttime
(675 posts)Speaker Pelosi
tRump impeached
Pence impeached
President Pelosi
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I see possibilities in Alaska, Colorado, but no were else, plus, we have a LOT of Senate seats up in 2018 and right now, we are poorly organized.
cos dem
(903 posts)Vinca
(50,303 posts)Sometimes your favorite candidate isn't on the ballot, but then you MUST pick what you may consider the best of the worst. Imagine how my blood pressure might be back to normal levels if Hillary was POTUS.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)that POS is shoveling affects his health too, because he looks like crap. He is mentally ill too, why aren't they talking about that?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)When we work hard to get things running right again and headed in the right direction, they throw bombs and blow it up. There is nothing good about Gorsuch being in a position to be on the Court fir 40 years and two of the Court liberals and the swing vote being very old Justices that could leave within the next four years - this is the type of stuff that true progressives think about when they go to vote, so what is Hillary was somewhat of a hawk, we could pressure her to do what WE want, not so with Trump.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)that our side will surprise me and does not sit on their asses during these midterms like they've done repeatedly in the recent past. Sorry, but I wont be getting my hopes up.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)And after 2 weeks of one outrage after another, my guess is pretty damn hopping mad.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)but some of these same people were insistent there was no difference between the two parties/candidates. FAR too many sat on their asses and allowed the degenerate to slither into the oval office and I'm not pinning my hopes on such people.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Didn't learn from 8 years of Bush and republicans constantly obstructing Obama, why should any sane person expect them to see the light now?
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Americans have very short attention spans.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)call them everyday, your 2 senators and representative.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)all great (Schumer, Gillibrand, Lowey). NONE of this matters if people don't vote. NONE.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)And the measages were talking about now has nothing to do with jobs, trade or any of the major hot button issues voters in those heavily Repub states care about.
So yes, our base is fired up. But our base does not live, by and large, in those states. And our base are not the voters we need to convince to show up to the polls.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Right wingers never let a map get them down. Why can't we stop the negativity and go for it?
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I say we go for it!
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Incessantly about jobs, trade, and issues those voters in those states cared about during the election.
But like Bill Clinton said "It's the economy stupid!"
And we're going to the mat on refugee immigration.
I'm not saying refugee immigration, LGBT Rights, cabinet nominations and other stuff arent worthy causes, but I promise these are side issues for him.
trade, jobs and such will be back front and center for him in less than a week. And the President has a bully pulpit, and for the next two years, all we're going to hear about is the renegotiating of NAFTA, companies bringing jobs here, and businesses signing the praises of lower business taxes.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)That's where the gerrymandering and voter suppression occurs
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)BSdetect
(8,999 posts)twitler will stop at nothing to implant lies into every tweet and speech.
He will have a huge army of paid shit spreaders like CONway in constant crap mode.
The msm will comply as always.
I want to drop Comcast /msnbc completely but cannot find an alternative for now.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)If Sessions heads to the Trump administration, he would leave behind a coveted seat in the United States Senate. Governor Bentley would appoint Sessions's replacement in the short-term and set a date for a statewide election to fill the seat.
Given the importance of the seat, we certainly shouldn't rush this. Bentley ought to appoint someone with an eye toward an election being held during the 2018 midterms. Special elections are expensive and often feature low turnout. With most of us experiencing campaign exhaustion, it's prudent to set the election during a normal cycle.
So whom might Bentley appoint if Sessions departs? Several sources I've spoken with suggest a few names on an emerging short list: Representative Martha Roby, Attorney General Luther Strange, state senator Trip Pittman, and state senator Cam Ward.
Like Bentley, Martha Roby didn't back Donald Trump. She took a bold stand on Trump after his sexual remarks came to light even when she knew it wouldn't play well in her district. She had a difficult election night, but she held her seat. She has political courage in spades and is focused on defense issues that critically benefit Alabama. She's also a talented woman who would make a welcome addition to a Senate Republican Caucus short on female membership. In addition, Roby could be a legacy pick for Bentley as only the third female senator in Alabama's history. The prior two were both appointments who served less than six months each.
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/11/if_jeff_sessions_leaves_the_se.html