The numbers of Americans killed by citizens from the 7 banned countries since 1975:

[Squinch]

Per Farid Zakaria who got the information from the Cato Institute (conservative think tank.)

ETA: this is people killed by citizens from these countries on American soil and does not include Iraqi soldiers in Iraq that time we invaded them for no reason.

Iraq - 0
Iran - 0
Somalia - 0
Sudan - 0
Syria - 0
Yemen - 0
Libya - 0

Numbers of Americans who have been killed by citizens from countries that were not included in the ban:

Saudi Arabia - 2369
Egypt - 162
UAE - 314
No countries that have a Trump hotel, building or office are on the list, so that's how these three stayed off it.

INCLUDING 9/11, the chance of an American citizen being killed by a terrorist on American soil since 1975 is 1 in 3.6 million per year.

[volstork]

1. Thank you for this.

Kick for visibility

[Phoenix61]

2. I'm guessing bees and peanut butter kill more Americans.

[starshine00]

10. it is too soon after the Orlando massacre for me

to be so flip. No offense.

[Phoenix61]

11. The person who committed that atrocity was born in the US

I was not being flip. I was comparing the fact that the countries that have been banned have not killed anyone in the US but bees certainly have.

[starshine00]

12. I am aware of that, I posted a link about that below

it just smarts when people say how small your likelihood is to die that way when it hasn't even been a year since 49 gay people were mowed down in cold blood by an islamist terrorist.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

31. The truth hurts.

[starshine00]

35. not as badly as getting murdered by an automatic weapon

just for loving someone of the wrong gender.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

36. That is another of the truths that hurts.

Which is why it's important to recognize the facts that disprove the propaganda that leads to that sort of murderous rage.

[frankieallen]

16. still, he identified as an islamic soldier, and committed the worst act of violence against the LGBT

community in american history.
this didn't do much to improved the attitude towards muslims by the right wing in this country. The fact that he was born here doesn't seem to matter to them, only that he's a brown guy and he prays to Allah.

[Squinch]

27. He was a US citizen. That has nothing to do with this OP.

[Squinch]

20. No one is being flip and no one is making light of Orlando. This is about whether the

EO ban makes any sense or would have prevented any deaths in the last 40 years. It wouldn't have.

[starshine00]

22. to me

bees and peanut butter is flip. It has been seven months. It is still raw. 49 people died, bees and peanut butter notwithstanding.

[Squinch]

25. But this has nothing to do with that. That was perpetrated by a US citizen.

[drray23]

3. you mean in a terrorist attack on US soil.

Because if you write it like your OP, the obvious response from the Trumpers will be what about the americans killed in Iraq during the war ?

[Squinch]

6. Killed by citizens (not soldiers) I thought covered it, but I'll add your observation.

[maveric]

24. Somalia 1994

[Wounded Bear]

4. Don't forget to list the names....

[dalton99a]

5. Number of Americans to be killed ANNUALLY by GOP repeal of ACA: 43,956.

New England Journal of Medicine estimate

[Squinch]

7. Wow. I had not seen that stat. I hate these people.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

32. Clearly the Rs don't give a shit about the people who die.

They just use it to gain power.

[starshine00]

34. judging from your response to my post above

neither do you.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

37. You have a comprehension problem.

And are clearly looking for a fight. Welcome to my ignore list.

[starshine00]

8. rest in peace those murdered in Orlando Pulse shooting by a terrorist who was a US citizen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Mateen

may they rest in peace in a better world and those murdered and maimed in Boston too by terrorists not on either list...this is no kind of exact science and it shows just how ineffective this policy is...the one country whose nationals killed the most is not on this ridiculous list.

[HoneyBadger]

9. Pan Am 103?

[former9thward]

13. The OP doesn't want to count them.

Americans killed off shore do not count. Just limiting it to "on American soil." The OP is able to say no one has been killed on American soil because he/she knows absolutely no one keeps track of that information.

[Squinch]

17. Is that why I said that? I thought I said it because I was doing an OP on what Zakaria reported.

But I guess you know best.

[bhikkhu]

18. I think one point is that the travel ban is to protect US soil

and no one died from a terrorist attack here by anyone from those countries. Meanwhile, the prime offenders are left untouched, presumably because twitler has business interests in those countries and doesn't want to ruffle any feathers that are making him money.

[HoneyBadger]

21. I understand the point

Just gutsy to exclude a well known incident that killed something like a hundred New Yorkers. It was a pretty big deal in NY at the time, maybe not elsewhere.

[demmiblue]

23. How is it 'gutsy'?

The OP has to do with actions on US soil.

Why are you trying to obfuscate the point of the OP?

[Squinch]

26. There are a few here trying to do that. Thanks for answering them.

[demmiblue]

28. No problem.

Some have been obvious from day 1.

[JI7]

33. including a right wing troll

[Squinch]

38. Plain as the nose on a face!

[HoneyBadger]

29. Reread the title of the OP

[demmiblue]

30. Reread the text of the entire OP.

[demmiblue]

14. Gee, I am shocked to learn that Lockerbie is located in the US.

[HoneyBadger]

15. Reread the title of the OP

[demmiblue]

19. Reread the text of the entire OP.