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Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:38 PM Jan 2017

Trump is a transition figure. Pence will be cast as the next Gerry Ford.

Last edited Wed Feb 15, 2017, 09:27 AM - Edit history (1)

At some point after they get enough out of him, and Trump's approval ratings sink low enough, Republicans will cut Trump loose for a President Pence. They already have enough to impeach him over any time they want. They will spin that they are true patriots, putting the interests of the nation over a president of their own party. They will saddle Trump with the blame for everything that goes wrong in and for America during his administration, and then throw hm overboard. They have to wait long enough before doing so that their own base won't punish them for turning against Trump, but they will pull the trigger then- probably within 6 months the way things are going. Most likely they will depose him on national security grounds. By then Trump will already have signed off on their conservative domestic agenda. Expect Pence to pose as a Gerry Ford after Nixon type figure temperamentally. He will be framed as a calming return to normality. The window dressing will suddenly improve dramatically and America will feel relieved when our VP is elevated to the presidency.

The daily scandal that Trump now throws out is the perfect set up to normalize the rule of a President Pence, by way of contrast, after he takes power. When asked what took them so long to deal with a rabid Trump presidency that they in fact enabled, Congressional Republicans will cite a respect for the will of an electorate that chose Donald Trump to be President. After the fact they will claim that they were always keeping a keen eye on Trump and were preparing to defend our Constitutional Republic from him if need be. I think they may be able to pull it off by claiming to still support whatever elements of Trumpism haven't by then been fully discredited (coupled with standard conservative "values&quot with a new improved figure head President who we will be told was a crucial behind the scenes leader in successfully navigating us away from the Trump disaster.

But Republicans can't escape political blame for the pain they will inflict on millions of people whose fundamental survival may depend on how Republicans deal with health care. Their zeal to repeal Obamacare predates the rise of Trump, his downfall will not provide them with a convenient scapegoat after the fact IF we make sure that the blame stays pinned on them now. Whether or not Democrats can retake one or both houses of congress in 2018, I think, may rest on this after Republicans help clean the White House of Donald Trump and try to take credit for that.

Democrats must continue to show that Congressional Republicans are willingly and knowingly playing with our lives if they move to dismantle the Affordable Care Act and the protections (and affordability) it now provides to lower and true middle income Americans - many of whom provided the critical votes Republicans needed last November to win a narrow electoral college majority to install a President wiling to sign off on their legislative agenda. Our problem is that with all of the ongoing pyrotechnics of a Trump presidency, it is hard to not keep all eyes riveted on him while we respond to the latest explosion, and not on Congress where the more garden variety work of the plutocracy is steadily advancing. Can we both forcefully resist Trump and keep a spotlight on Republicans in Congress? Much rides on our ability to do so.

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Trump is a transition figure. Pence will be cast as the next Gerry Ford. (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Jan 2017 OP
If that happens, drumpf will lose his mind and end up hospitalized. louis-t Jan 2017 #1
If he hasn't lost it yet that could happen any hour. Seriously. Tom Rinaldo Jan 2017 #2
I posted this OP over two weeks ago. I just now edited the Subject line slightly Tom Rinaldo Feb 2017 #3

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
1. If that happens, drumpf will lose his mind and end up hospitalized.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:44 PM
Jan 2017

Hopefully, they will put him on the 23rd floor. Cuz, y'know he's really afraid of stairs.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
2. If he hasn't lost it yet that could happen any hour. Seriously.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:51 PM
Jan 2017

Scary stuff. I used to think he would hold it together well enough to stay in power, at least for one term. Now it appears like he may finally fully self destruct at any time. He could take a lot of folk down with him. From President to Psych Ward i less than a year. Could happen. But you're right about putting him on an upper floor, no one will hold his hand to help him get down, and out.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
3. I posted this OP over two weeks ago. I just now edited the Subject line slightly
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 09:36 AM
Feb 2017

Originally the subject line focused on the politics surrounding the repeal of the A.C.A. I haven't changed the text in any way though, it remains as originally written. It all appears to be playing out.

I believe that the Republican strategy is to allow Trump to remain as the lightning rod catching all incoming while they work in Congress and inside of the executive agencies to erode all resistance to the Oligarchy. If they can ram their agenda through under Trump's signature and in his name, after he is deposed any failures associated with his "rule" will be blamed on him and Pence will pose as being far more moderate than he actually is to enable Republicans to retain Congress in 2018. Pence will be able to avoid most new controversies because the damage will already have been done under Trump.

We can't take our eyes off Congress - the Republican agenda, not just Trump, has to be attacked.

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