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Can the CIA do anything about Bannon? (Original Post) fun n serious Jan 2017 OP
No. The CIA's mission is to collect intelligence MineralMan Jan 2017 #1
We're fucked. fun n serious Jan 2017 #3
You may well be right. MineralMan Jan 2017 #4
The Senate Democrats can do something about this still_one Jan 2017 #32
Well, they do monitor communications with those foreign entities... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #7
Well, they do some of that, although that is really the NSA's MineralMan Jan 2017 #9
Or leaked. They can make it too public for the FBI to bury. nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #33
That could happen. However, there are consequences MineralMan Jan 2017 #35
One might offer in response that letting a mentally unbalanced president Vinnie From Indy Jan 2017 #42
If you get caught--or if it isn't a command decision accepted by all in the know. nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #45
Well, that may turn out to ba a positive thing 2naSalit Jan 2017 #38
Unless Bannon is directly connected to Russia. Tatiana Jan 2017 #41
He's a Leninist FFS bathroommonkey76 Jan 2017 #43
Except for droning folks. GeorgeGist Jan 2017 #47
Boots? tazkcmo Jan 2017 #2
Yes, people. fun n serious Jan 2017 #5
And I don't mean to be mean to you! tazkcmo Jan 2017 #10
I am glad you pointed it out to me. fun n serious Jan 2017 #13
There are already people there.... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #11
Exactly HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #26
they will do anything to distract bdamomma Jan 2017 #6
I worry far more about boots domestically at the moment... nt EarthFirst Jan 2017 #8
I know our Dear Leader would love to occupy Chicago with the National Guard workinclasszero Jan 2017 #14
I thought about that one a bit HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #29
ok, I'll say it. librechik Jan 2017 #12
Believe me... fun n serious Jan 2017 #16
yeah librechik Jan 2017 #19
Putin has gotten just what he wanted... pangaia Jan 2017 #37
This is too... pernicious? There are too many people involved to just remove one person. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #44
Yes, that seems to be the only real option. Except GliderGuider Jan 2017 #20
OP names White Supremacist KKK publicist Bannon librechik Jan 2017 #23
Easy? Bannon is two or three steps ahead of the play. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #24
I know. He castled right off the bat. librechik Jan 2017 #28
Grin GliderGuider Jan 2017 #31
- librechik Jan 2017 #34
I wouldn't cry. n/t MANative Jan 2017 #21
We are all thinking it. n/t Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #22
Yep, they got away clean with JFK HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #30
I'm worried that President Bannon will have Trump Ilsa Jan 2017 #15
I am genuinely scared to death. fun n serious Jan 2017 #17
Me too nt maryellen99 Jan 2017 #39
turn that fear handmade34 Jan 2017 #40
Who do you think the CIA works for? Analysts try to play it straight but... yurbud Jan 2017 #18
Put yourself in Putin's place, and then think like a chess player librechik Jan 2017 #25
Maybe. Maybe not. :) LiberalFighter Jan 2017 #27
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! n/t malaise Jan 2017 #36
Threaten to give his stank as a bath... He'll stop acting up quick uponit7771 Jan 2017 #46

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
1. No. The CIA's mission is to collect intelligence
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jan 2017

on foreign governments. Bannon is the FBI's responsibility, but Comey is installed there. Not much chance of a thorough investigation, I think.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
3. We're fucked.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:40 PM
Jan 2017

I was hoping CIA had something on Bannon but you're right.. they would have to give it to FBI.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. You may well be right.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:42 PM
Jan 2017

I'm afraid that legal challenges and public protest are the only things we have available to us.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
32. The Senate Democrats can do something about this
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:31 PM
Jan 2017

"Senate Democrats have a powerful tool at their disposal, if they choose to use it, for resisting a president who has no mandate and cannot claim to embody the popular will. That tool lies in the simple but fitting act of withholding consent. An organized effort to do so on the Senate floor can bring the body to its knees and block or severely slow down the agenda of a president who does not represent the majority of Americans.

The procedure for withholding consent is straightforward, but deploying it is tricky. For the Senate to move in a timely fashion on any order of business, it must obtain unanimous support from its members. But if a single senator objects to a consent agreement, McConnell, now majority leader, will be forced to resort to time-consuming procedural steps through the cloture process, which takes four days to confirm nominees and seven days to advance any piece of legislation — and that’s without amendment votes, each of which can be subjected to a several-day cloture process as well."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/27/democrats-in-congress-can-block-trumps-agenda-if-they-want-to-heres-how/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.b5d8c6dc4cc2

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
7. Well, they do monitor communications with those foreign entities...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:44 PM
Jan 2017

If Bannon's name pops up there, they would "have something" on him that could, and should, be transferred to the other agencies.

Theoretically, of course.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. Well, they do some of that, although that is really the NSA's
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:45 PM
Jan 2017

job. However, with the FBI in Comey's hands, it's likely that any sullying information will get buried.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
35. That could happen. However, there are consequences
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:34 PM
Jan 2017

for leaking from within those agencies. Serious ones.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
42. One might offer in response that letting a mentally unbalanced president
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:35 PM
Jan 2017

and his evil, equally deranged "adviser" bring about the fundamental destruction of our republic and untold death has serious consequences as well!

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
38. Well, that may turn out to ba a positive thing
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:49 PM
Jan 2017

in the long run. There is a rift within the FBI so perhaps there is a martyr among them, ya never know. Could be hard to trace. And besides, when the FBI murders someone, the investigation always clears them of any unlawfulness.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
41. Unless Bannon is directly connected to Russia.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:29 PM
Jan 2017

That would offer a window for the CIA to intervene and/or investigate.

But it is, I agree, a long shot.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
2. Boots?
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:40 PM
Jan 2017

You mean people?

"Boots on the ground" is a great way to not say, "Your mother/father/sister/brother/son/daughter in harms way.".

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
10. And I don't mean to be mean to you!
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:47 PM
Jan 2017
It's just kind of personal when I see "boots" used instead of "people".

Sorry if I came across as snotty or aggressive to you. We're on the same team.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
11. There are already people there....
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:47 PM
Jan 2017

Unfortunately, "boots on the ground" has morphed into meaning "large scale combat units" and excludes all dark ops and "training" missions. How large the unit involved in has been creeping up too, I think. Now, if it is smaller than a brigade (a combat unit of 2-3000 or so) it doesn't seem to count. A battalion here, a battalion there. All in a day's work.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
26. Exactly
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:27 PM
Jan 2017

We have had hundreds, maybe thousands of troops in Syria for months, but somehow we are not in Syria.

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
6. they will do anything to distract
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:42 PM
Jan 2017

I think I'm going to call my senators to say something.

But we can't forget: Say NO TO TILLERSON, NO TO DEVOS, and we need to see Trumps Tax Returns, and to investigate Steele Dossier.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
14. I know our Dear Leader would love to occupy Chicago with the National Guard
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jan 2017

When will those orders come down?

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
29. I thought about that one a bit
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:29 PM
Jan 2017

My suspicion is that he intends to use RICO against the gangs there. It is not the first time.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
12. ok, I'll say it.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:48 PM
Jan 2017

assassination. It's not like they never did it before. Numerous times. Even OUR OWN PEOPLE. At least, allegedly. We never got anything to stick on those guys, and then they mysteriously wind up dead too. Old. long story, since the Bible.

So no one can say for sure. The term of art is "high confidence"

librechik

(30,674 posts)
19. yeah
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jan 2017

CIA do the right thing for a change. The assassination team was historically always run by true nazis, under Dulles' direct command. Or his heir, whoever that was in the 80s. So urging them on is very very strange--and probably won't happen. This Putin plan is so tight, I am sure the CIA is all moled up to the hilt. He couldn't have pulled it off otherwise. Keep an eye out for the welfare of one Christopher Steele, the leaker.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
44. This is too... pernicious? There are too many people involved to just remove one person.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:58 PM
Jan 2017

We're going to have to go through a world of serious hurt until sanity prevails.

Remember, Obama made the decision to go through Institutional process.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
20. Yes, that seems to be the only real option. Except
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jan 2017

It would need to be a multiple assassination. Just topping Trump wouldn't end the game, just shift the field.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
23. OP names White Supremacist KKK publicist Bannon
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:19 PM
Jan 2017

as the person to be removed. Trump, really, is not even important in this scenario. And most people want him removed by legal means, which should be easy in his case. Right???

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
24. Easy? Bannon is two or three steps ahead of the play.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:23 PM
Jan 2017

He has now sewed up the NSC, so he's probably ready to make his big move - probably within a very few days.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
28. I know. He castled right off the bat.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:28 PM
Jan 2017

it will be difficult to remove Herr Goebbels from the position he has assumed with executive protection.

Oops, did I say Goebbels? I meant Goebbels.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
15. I'm worried that President Bannon will have Trump
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:51 PM
Jan 2017

Sign an EO giving Pres. Bannon authority to order the military around.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
40. turn that fear
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:23 PM
Jan 2017

into righteous anger!! please do not succumb to fear... we need you to call, write, talk to people

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
18. Who do you think the CIA works for? Analysts try to play it straight but...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jan 2017

their bosses spin their work to fit a political agenda.

The operations wing is something else. They serve big business, and war is big business.

The only question is whether the oil industry really wants to do deals with Russia or try to steal their lunch.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
25. Put yourself in Putin's place, and then think like a chess player
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jan 2017

Putin got what he wanted. Why spoil it now with all-out war? He can spend the next 8 years living high off the hog in the Trump Hotel Moscow. His technique has proven highly effective. Twice, if you count the Brexit vote. He's proved he can do it any time he wants and there is no adequate defense.

Yes, there will be sudden, unexpected draconian moves by the dozens. No way to prepare for that, really. We are on the losing side, and we don't have any chess players, let alone good ones.

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