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Christians answer me this. (Original Post) Cattledog Jan 2017 OP
Problem is you aren't dealing with real Christians. NutmegYankee Jan 2017 #1
Bingo. roamer65 Jan 2017 #12
Amen! mcar Jan 2017 #21
it's not the book, it is the readers. Cherry pickers extraordinaire NRaleighLiberal Jan 2017 #2
In spades cyclonefence Jan 2017 #9
Also that part about treestar Jan 2017 #3
Always to be nice to *everybody* because cyclonefence Jan 2017 #10
I've kind discovered that is true here as well. pangaia Jan 2017 #27
Republican Jesus pick and choose bible versus for political division. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #4
because the can find verses that support their views for the former, but not the latter. duh. unblock Jan 2017 #5
I'm a Christian Tree-Hugger Jan 2017 #6
Every Christian picks and chooses Mariana Jan 2017 #7
I'm an eclectic ck4829 Jan 2017 #8
I'm a Christian who considers Muslims ... dawg Jan 2017 #16
Beautiful! Thank you. cornball 24 Jan 2017 #22
Spiritual narcissism Donkees Jan 2017 #11
Those people worship Supply Side Jesus dalton99a Jan 2017 #13
They asked Jesus which commandments in the scriptures were the most important. dawg Jan 2017 #14
Jesus said to Love Thy Neighbor. Mariana Jan 2017 #23
Oh, they asked that question of him back then. dawg Jan 2017 #24
Blaming all Christian blaming all Muslims ripcord Jan 2017 #15
Because it allows so many people to parade their prejudice gratuitous Jan 2017 #19
Had to laugh KentuckyWoman Jan 2017 #29
Religious nutjobs are braindead. BSdetect Jan 2017 #17
I'm long past being surprised when religionists are being hypocritical. aidbo Jan 2017 #18
My reading of the Bible safeinOhio Jan 2017 #20
That has nothing to do with the Bible. KentuckyWoman Jan 2017 #25
See "The Hole In Our Gospel". It explains these people to a T onecaliberal Jan 2017 #26
Radical Christians is what they should be called... HopeAgain Jan 2017 #28
I am a christian KentuckyWoman Jan 2017 #30
How do people who can't spell "moron" read BarackTheVote Jan 2017 #31
Most Christians here got the point, so they can't answer your question Warpy Jan 2017 #32

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
1. Problem is you aren't dealing with real Christians.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:28 AM
Jan 2017

Those people are to Christianity what the Taliban is to Islam.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
9. In spades
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:40 AM
Jan 2017

I always wonder if these "christian" bakers mind making wedding cakes for Jews, who as we all know murdered their lord and savior, whose beliefs deny their own, and of course there's that thing about sacrificing christian babies to make matzoh.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
6. I'm a Christian
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:36 AM
Jan 2017

That's why I am also a flaming liberal.

What is interesting is that the Beatitudes will be read throughout churches today as that particular passage is part of the liturgical cycle for this time of year within many church communities. As I sat in my pew today, I wondered how many so-called Christians would read/hear those words and either gloss over them or mentally add an annotation *for white Americans only. Poor, immigrant, mooslims need not apply.

The pastor of the church I attend - not a Catholic church - began his sermon by quoting Poor Francis - you are a hypocrit of you are Christian and deny immigrants.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
7. Every Christian picks and chooses
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:37 AM
Jan 2017

what they want to follow and what they want to ignore. Why do you think there are so many Christian denominations? It's so Christians can shop around until they find a church that won't ever tell them they're wrong.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
8. I'm an eclectic
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jan 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclecticism

I genuinely take a bit of Christianity, a bit of Islam, I have some appreciation for some of the Buddhist ideas (I'm open to a form of reincarnation for example), and discordianism, the funnest one.

I can also spot other eclectics from a mile away.

These guys have taken social dominance orientation, right wing authoritarianism, system justification, the idea of whoever has the most money and/or the loudest is the one who is right, mixed it all together and slapped a "Christian" label on it which is the beginning and end of it right there. That is their religion, that is their God.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
16. I'm a Christian who considers Muslims ...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jan 2017

and Jews to be my brothers and sisters in faith. Likewise, the Buddha taught us mindfulness and was one of the greatest teachers the world has known.

Wisdom and truth can be found down many paths, and the things we have in common are greater and more important than the things that divide us.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
14. They asked Jesus which commandments in the scriptures were the most important.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:53 AM
Jan 2017

He told them, and I'm paraphrasing of course, to love God and to love each other, and all of that other stuff would basically take care of itself.

So I should love the refugees, and try to help them.

And I should love the gay couple; and why not bake them a cake?

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
23. Jesus said to Love Thy Neighbor.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 01:59 PM
Jan 2017

Most English translations do use the word neighbor, I believe. He didn't define what makes someone a neighbor, though, so Christians can simply decide anyone they don't like isn't their neighbor.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
24. Oh, they asked that question of him back then.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jan 2017

"Who is my neighbor?"

Jesus answered with the parable of the Good Samaritan. The Samaritans were kind of an out-group at the time, and not held in particularly high regard. The actual story is as follows:

30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Because it allows so many people to parade their prejudice
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:07 PM
Jan 2017

And for some reason they really enjoy doing that.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
18. I'm long past being surprised when religionists are being hypocritical.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:03 PM
Jan 2017

At this point I'd be surprised if they were consistent in their beliefs.

KentuckyWoman

(6,685 posts)
25. That has nothing to do with the Bible.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:32 PM
Jan 2017

Anyone claiming their bigotry and racism is based on a Bible teaching is a liar and an idiot.

Plain and simple.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
28. Radical Christians is what they should be called...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:37 PM
Jan 2017

they bear no more resemblance to Jesus' teachings than ISIS does to Muhammad.

KentuckyWoman

(6,685 posts)
30. I am a christian
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:40 PM
Jan 2017

I call them talibornagains. I would welcome them to my church but they would either soften up or split before the preacher was even done......

BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
31. How do people who can't spell "moron" read
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 02:51 PM
Jan 2017

a book overflowing with complex concepts and metaphors, difficult and archaic language, and rooted in the historic context of its time? I doubt they do. Oh, they might try to read the words, but I doubt they comprehend the vast majority of what they're reading. Instead, they use "study Bibles," with footnoted analysis conducted by people with political agendas. Plus, I don't think they read the Bible in context, that is, I don't think any of them really start at the beginning and then read all the way through the thousands of pages of condensed text--they just highlight and read over and over again the chapters and verses they're told for ammunition, or to read when they want to make themselves feel better.

I once dated a Baptist girl; she was a real Bible-thumper, and we'd have arguments about theology all the time (friendly arguments, mostly). One day, I decided to show her one of my favorite movies, "King of Kings." When the film got to the place where Salome dances for Herod, she insisted that that scene wasn't in the Gospels. I showed her the chapter and verse (had to look it up, since I don't memorize those things because... Catholic LOL)--that's about when I realized what I'm saying above. They really don't know the first thing about the roots of their religion or the basis of their theology. They're making it up as they go along, mostly fed what they should think by "smarter and more educated" pastors (who themselves are often after worldly wealth, power, and prestige).

Warpy

(111,273 posts)
32. Most Christians here got the point, so they can't answer your question
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 03:19 PM
Jan 2017

You'll have to ask it in a Republican caucus in a state lege down south or out west, or maybe in some wingnut church in Texas or Indiana.

Just make sure you wear a flak suit and take bodyguards when you ask it. Those folks hate being asked to think.

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