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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChristians answer me this.
Why is the Bible is relevant if you have to bake a cake for some gays but not for refugees fleeing oppression and death?
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Those people are to Christianity what the Taliban is to Islam.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)as in hypocrites.
cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)I always wonder if these "christian" bakers mind making wedding cakes for Jews, who as we all know murdered their lord and savior, whose beliefs deny their own, and of course there's that thing about sacrificing christian babies to make matzoh.
treestar
(82,383 posts)being nice to strangers, for you were once strangers in the land of Egypt.
cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)you never know who's going to be on the jury.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)unblock
(52,253 posts)Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)That's why I am also a flaming liberal.
What is interesting is that the Beatitudes will be read throughout churches today as that particular passage is part of the liturgical cycle for this time of year within many church communities. As I sat in my pew today, I wondered how many so-called Christians would read/hear those words and either gloss over them or mentally add an annotation *for white Americans only. Poor, immigrant, mooslims need not apply.
The pastor of the church I attend - not a Catholic church - began his sermon by quoting Poor Francis - you are a hypocrit of you are Christian and deny immigrants.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)what they want to follow and what they want to ignore. Why do you think there are so many Christian denominations? It's so Christians can shop around until they find a church that won't ever tell them they're wrong.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)I genuinely take a bit of Christianity, a bit of Islam, I have some appreciation for some of the Buddhist ideas (I'm open to a form of reincarnation for example), and discordianism, the funnest one.
I can also spot other eclectics from a mile away.
These guys have taken social dominance orientation, right wing authoritarianism, system justification, the idea of whoever has the most money and/or the loudest is the one who is right, mixed it all together and slapped a "Christian" label on it which is the beginning and end of it right there. That is their religion, that is their God.
dawg
(10,624 posts)and Jews to be my brothers and sisters in faith. Likewise, the Buddha taught us mindfulness and was one of the greatest teachers the world has known.
Wisdom and truth can be found down many paths, and the things we have in common are greater and more important than the things that divide us.
cornball 24
(1,478 posts)Donkees
(31,417 posts)dalton99a
(81,515 posts)dawg
(10,624 posts)He told them, and I'm paraphrasing of course, to love God and to love each other, and all of that other stuff would basically take care of itself.
So I should love the refugees, and try to help them.
And I should love the gay couple; and why not bake them a cake?
Mariana
(14,858 posts)Most English translations do use the word neighbor, I believe. He didn't define what makes someone a neighbor, though, so Christians can simply decide anyone they don't like isn't their neighbor.
dawg
(10,624 posts)"Who is my neighbor?"
Jesus answered with the parable of the Good Samaritan. The Samaritans were kind of an out-group at the time, and not held in particularly high regard. The actual story is as follows:
30 In reply Jesus said: A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. Look after him, he said, and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.
36 Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?
37 The expert in the law replied, The one who had mercy on him.
Jesus told him, Go and do likewise.
ripcord
(5,408 posts)Why do we even go down this road?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)And for some reason they really enjoy doing that.
KentuckyWoman
(6,685 posts)Truth AND a zinger.....
Good work.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)At this point I'd be surprised if they were consistent in their beliefs.
safeinOhio
(32,688 posts)Makes me think those that support trump are the "scribes and phrasese".
KentuckyWoman
(6,685 posts)Anyone claiming their bigotry and racism is based on a Bible teaching is a liar and an idiot.
Plain and simple.
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)they bear no more resemblance to Jesus' teachings than ISIS does to Muhammad.
KentuckyWoman
(6,685 posts)I call them talibornagains. I would welcome them to my church but they would either soften up or split before the preacher was even done......
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)a book overflowing with complex concepts and metaphors, difficult and archaic language, and rooted in the historic context of its time? I doubt they do. Oh, they might try to read the words, but I doubt they comprehend the vast majority of what they're reading. Instead, they use "study Bibles," with footnoted analysis conducted by people with political agendas. Plus, I don't think they read the Bible in context, that is, I don't think any of them really start at the beginning and then read all the way through the thousands of pages of condensed text--they just highlight and read over and over again the chapters and verses they're told for ammunition, or to read when they want to make themselves feel better.
I once dated a Baptist girl; she was a real Bible-thumper, and we'd have arguments about theology all the time (friendly arguments, mostly). One day, I decided to show her one of my favorite movies, "King of Kings." When the film got to the place where Salome dances for Herod, she insisted that that scene wasn't in the Gospels. I showed her the chapter and verse (had to look it up, since I don't memorize those things because... Catholic LOL)--that's about when I realized what I'm saying above. They really don't know the first thing about the roots of their religion or the basis of their theology. They're making it up as they go along, mostly fed what they should think by "smarter and more educated" pastors (who themselves are often after worldly wealth, power, and prestige).
Warpy
(111,273 posts)You'll have to ask it in a Republican caucus in a state lege down south or out west, or maybe in some wingnut church in Texas or Indiana.
Just make sure you wear a flak suit and take bodyguards when you ask it. Those folks hate being asked to think.