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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:20 AM Jan 2017

The refugee furor is being used as a smokescreen for Bannon's move on the NSC.

The refugee fuss is misdirecting the world's attention and hobbling the political and media response to what, in my opinion, is the most dangerous event so far.

The tea leaves tell me that the timing of serious discussion of impeachment/Article 25 and Bannon's move is not accidental.

It hints that a very large event - either a major false-flag or an actual assault of some kind (not necessarily military) - is right on the horizon. Bannon's action is probably intended to clear the way for it to unfold without interference until it's commenced (or even over, depending on what sort of event it is and how fast it happens).

We have entered the zone of maximum danger. It's time to connect with friends, and shelter in place until other adults gain control of the situation - if they still can.

More than that I cannot tell from here.

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The refugee furor is being used as a smokescreen for Bannon's move on the NSC. (Original Post) GliderGuider Jan 2017 OP
Exactly. They are fishing for something. Tatiana Jan 2017 #1
There is no logical reason why Bannon should be on the NSC. MineralMan Jan 2017 #2
Precisely. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #3
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #13
I do. It's irrelevant to his current position. MineralMan Jan 2017 #16
Not knowing who these people are, just makes us look petty and uniformed. braddy Jan 2017 #17
I know who Bannon is. MineralMan Jan 2017 #18
I just explained in my post, being uninformed or trying to mislead people destroys our credibility braddy Jan 2017 #19
His military service was over 30 years ago Trekologer Jan 2017 #21
Exactly. And his degree? Practical, real-life experience MineralMan Jan 2017 #22
Zero qualifications? We don't need to get silly. braddy Jan 2017 #23
You wrote, "More than that I cannot tell from here." PearliePoo2 Jan 2017 #4
I'm just saying (clumsily) that my view is limited. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #6
He must have an inner circle that knows he plans to unstabilize the USA. Baitball Blogger Jan 2017 #5
When a Congressional group calls him out like that, watch out. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #8
But sadly they won't call him out Generic Brad Jan 2017 #11
Not necessarily. If we can figure this out, some of them can too. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #14
True, but they're both bad KittyWampus Jan 2017 #7
That's the point. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #10
many smoke screens and competing factions Locrian Jan 2017 #9
Yes, it's true "shock and awe" nt GliderGuider Jan 2017 #12
I don't want to hear the term "conspiracy theory" used pejoratively, ever again... First Speaker Jan 2017 #15
My feelings as well. nt GliderGuider Jan 2017 #20
when the best case scenario Locrian Jan 2017 #24
Kick Cracklin Charlie Jan 2017 #25
Yup. Squirrel! 2naSalit Jan 2017 #26

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
1. Exactly. They are fishing for something.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:26 AM
Jan 2017

The text of one of the EOs about fighting ISIS directs agencies to comply with all information requests. First of all, why would you have to create an EO to develop a strategy to fight ISIS? Second, what information are they trying to find?

This is Shock Doctrine to distract us from what Bannon and Putin are really up to. The question is what are they up to?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. There is no logical reason why Bannon should be on the NSC.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jan 2017

He has zero qualifications. Therefore, something is up with this. Removing the Generals from the council removes the only people who would object to dangerous plans created by Trump and his team. Generals are non-political voices who can be relied on to tell you when something is really stupid.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
3. Precisely.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:32 AM
Jan 2017

The guys who removed take "protecting the Constitution from all enemies, domestic or foreign" very seriously. Their dedication was in the way, and Bannon inserted himself as a "control rod" to dampen the eventual reaction of the rest of the NSC.

Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. I do. It's irrelevant to his current position.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:58 AM
Jan 2017

It is the same as if I said my service in the USAF as a Russian Linguist and Analyst qualified me to run an intelligence agency. It does not. Neither does Bannon's time as a Surface Warfare specialist and aide to an Admiral qualifies him for this.

Please do not post in support of Steve Bannon on this website. I bid you good day, sir or madam.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
17. Not knowing who these people are, just makes us look petty and uniformed.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:05 PM
Jan 2017

One of his masters degrees is in National Security Studies from Georgetown University School of Foreign Service and he was a Navy officer and special assistant to the Chief of Naval Operations at the Pentagon, and is currently the Chief Strategist and Senior Counselor to the President, to say that he has "zero qualifications" for the president to assign him as one of his men at the National Security Council, just makes people start to ignore us as irrelevant sources of information and opinions.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
18. I know who Bannon is.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:07 PM
Jan 2017

I do not have to demonstrate that knowledge in every post I make.

Why are you defending him here?

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
19. I just explained in my post, being uninformed or trying to mislead people destroys our credibility
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jan 2017

and our ability to fight, the people that need to be fought.

Trekologer

(997 posts)
21. His military service was over 30 years ago
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jan 2017

His time since was spent as an investment banker and media financier. It doesn't seem relevant for national security today.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
22. Exactly. And his degree? Practical, real-life experience
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:18 PM
Jan 2017

is required as a qualification, not a degree.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
4. You wrote, "More than that I cannot tell from here."
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:33 AM
Jan 2017

What are you saying please? Are you privy to some specific, frightening information?


 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
6. I'm just saying (clumsily) that my view is limited.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:44 AM
Jan 2017

The only advantage I bring to the table is a decade or so complex-systems analysis, including dot-connecting and root-cause analysis in various aspects of the interacting human and biophysical systems of the planet. That activity seems to have given me a nose for obscure connections and a tendency to see the things that attract the most public attention as distracting chaff.

But my ability to analyze this situation is limited by the information I have available. I'm not plugged in.

Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)
5. He must have an inner circle that knows he plans to unstabilize the USA.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:36 AM
Jan 2017

When is someone finally going to call them out on treason and conspiracy?

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
8. When a Congressional group calls him out like that, watch out.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:45 AM
Jan 2017

That will be the moment of maximum danger. It will be "now or never time" for the end-game.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
11. But sadly they won't call him out
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:49 AM
Jan 2017

They have their own agenda and they erroneously believe they can reign him in if necessary. These are no the sharpest tools in the shed. The deed will be done before they realize they need to act. It will be too little, too late.

We are screwed.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
14. Not necessarily. If we can figure this out, some of them can too.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jan 2017

Not all the Dems are beholden more to their agenda than their nation. Not even all the Repubs are that cynical, though more of them are.

It doesn't need unanimous support - it could be a rogue action by a smaller group of awakened Congresscritters. That's all it would take to trigger the next phase of this catastrophe.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
10. That's the point.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:49 AM
Jan 2017

The refugee thing had to be really, really bad in order to successfully distract attention from something even worse.

The planning of this (a combined effort by Dugin, Surkov, Putin and others) shows true evil genius at work.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
9. many smoke screens and competing factions
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:48 AM
Jan 2017

It's a real shit-show. But keep your eyes on the power players: the GOP/corporate who are DYING for the rape and pillage they can do under trump, the christofacists who want a take over with pence as king, and Bannon - the burn it all down wild card capable of anything.

And trump is the bull in the china shop / turd in the punch bowl that serves as the circus of distraction. He's their shit magnet and at the same time capable of his own brand of mentally unstable destruction.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
15. I don't want to hear the term "conspiracy theory" used pejoratively, ever again...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:53 AM
Jan 2017

...my God. We're living in a paranoid nightmare. Combine 24, Seven Days in May, and Monty Python, and you have our situation...

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
24. when the best case scenario
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:22 PM
Jan 2017

is that we get rid of turmp..... and wind up with what?....... president pence?! We're seriously screwed.

The gop/oligarchs/corporate/wallstreet own the whole enchilada right now, and it's not just trump, pence, etc. It's a full scale power grab.

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