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babylonsister

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Sun Jan 29, 2017, 10:52 AM Jan 2017

Malevolence Tempered by Incompetence: Trumps Horrifying Executive Order on Refugees and Visas

https://lawfareblog.com/malevolence-tempered-incompetence-trumps-horrifying-executive-order-refugees-and-visas

Malevolence Tempered by Incompetence: Trump’s Horrifying Executive Order on Refugees and Visas
By Benjamin Wittes
Saturday, January 28, 2017, 10:58 PM


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The malevolence of President Trump’s Executive Order on visas and refugees is mitigated chiefly—and perhaps only—by the astonishing incompetence of its drafting and construction.

NBC is reporting that the document was not reviewed by DHS, the Justice Department, the State Department, or the Department of Defense, and that National Security Council lawyers were prevented from evaluating it. Moreover, the New York Times writes that Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services, the agencies tasked with carrying out the policy, were only given a briefing call while Trump was actually signing the order itself. Yesterday, the Department of Justice gave a “no comment” when asked whether the Office of Legal Counsel had reviewed Trump’s executive orders—including the order at hand. (OLC normally reviews every executive order.)

This order reads to me, frankly, as though it was not reviewed by competent counsel at all.

CNN offers extraordinary details:

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In other words, the executive order sets up a reporting mechanism that will almost certainly falsify its own premise.

I would wax triumphant about the mitigating effect of incompetence on this document, but alas, I can’t do it. The president’s powers in this area are vast, as I say, and while the incompetence is likely to buy the administration a world of hurt in court and in diplomacy in the short term, this order is still going take more than a few pounds of flesh out of a lot of innocent people.

Moreover, it’s a very dangerous thing to have a White House that can’t with the remotest pretense of competence and governance put together a major policy document on a crucial set of national security issues without inducing an avalanche of litigation and wide diplomatic fallout. If the incompetence mitigates the malevolence in this case, that’ll be a blessing. But given the nature of the federal immigration powers, the mitigation may be small and the blessing short-lived; the implications of having an executive this inept are not small and won’t be short-lived.
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Malevolence Tempered by Incompetence: Trumps Horrifying Executive Order on Refugees and Visas (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2017 OP
Seen at one of the airport sit-ins. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2017 #1
Love it; saw it last night babylonsister Jan 2017 #2
Please pay attention malaise Jan 2017 #3
Bad link mnhtnbb Jan 2017 #4
I just clicked on it and it worked. babylonsister Jan 2017 #5
It finally worked for me about the 5th time I clicked it. mnhtnbb Jan 2017 #6

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
4. Bad link
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:54 AM
Jan 2017

getting an error code.

Would you please check it?

Thanks.

On edit: error code multiple times and then it did work. So...maybe overwhelmed?

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