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This is serious. This is horrifying. The threat from within... (Original Post) apcalc Jan 2017 OP
This article is all to true. Bookmarked. But I am encouraged by last night...the people riversedge Jan 2017 #1
wow everyone should read this starshine00 Jan 2017 #2

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
1. This article is all to true. Bookmarked. But I am encouraged by last night...the people
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 09:55 AM
Jan 2017

just spontaneously coming out and protesting. Short lived victory and we must continue.



https://www.autostraddle.com/i-was-trained-for-the-culture-wars-in-home-school-awaiting-someone-like-mike-pence-as-a-messiah-367057/



...............It is important to understand that they are coming at this from a place of passion and dedication. They have a fire in their bellies. While it looks like a bunch of backwoods hillbillies playing with guns to anyone outside, they are resilient and in it for the long haul. They want America to succeed, but in their America there isn’t room for anyone unlike them. There’s a reason Trump’s mantra stuck despite his deplorable behaviour. They think America was founded on conservative Protestant ideals because that’s what they’ve been fed, because that’s what aligns with their interpretation of the Bible and they will not go down without a fight.

They are scared of anything newer than the 18th century; you can’t logic the fear of change away from people. If you do no research and are instead predisposed to the belief that older is better, it’s easy to think the Puritans were good and wholesome. People wore funny hats, were conservative and hated science. Church was basically mandatory and women weren’t allowed to speak or be autonomous people. These are all comforting things for people who feel as though the world is against them because of their religion, rather than the fact that their views and actions are bigoted, racist and actively harmful to millions of other humans. You cannot be this version of evangelical and not force your beliefs on others. Failing to convert is a failure on you and your dedication to your faith. This religion is based entirely on fear; you can’t argue away a fear so intense that it hardens you to anyone unlike you or your tribe.

They will not be won over with sit-downs and respectability politics. This kind of dogma cannot be reasoned with; it must be fought against. Trying to convince them to come to the other side is a waste of time unless they’ve already started on that journey themselves. The ones in power, actively harming our lives, are past this point. We can only fight back.

The revolution has come and we are the resistance.











 

starshine00

(531 posts)
2. wow everyone should read this
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 09:58 AM
Jan 2017

I have no illusions about Pence at all. Just having grown up evangelical I can understand exactly what she is talking about. Christofascists and Islamofascists both use women the same way, as breeding units. Patrilineal religion in general does, and it is a tragedy because it completely overwhelms the mother's ability to be an adequate parent which is why so many extremist religious children grow up deranged or personality disordered or in some way unstable. I am really ready for a post abrahamist world where the patrilinealist mindset is over with. Using women's uteruses this way to achieve empire damages society on every level because it damages every child born in this system.

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