I think we have lost control of our elections and we should demand reform.

[milestogo]

If we do not have free and fair elections, all is lost. We cannot have any influence on our government if our votes are being counted accurately. We cannot elect the people we want to have in office.

I have zero faith in electronic voting machines, as long as they are not secured. I think we need to fight for paper ballots or a process that is closely monitored. I don't know how we get there, but we have to do this NOW.

I don't believe Scott Walker was elected in Wisconsin 3 times. I don't believe Trump won Wisconsin this time. I don't believe that the polls predicting Clinton's win were wrong. I believe she did win, and we were robbed. The fix was already in.

If we continue to ignore this, we don't have a ray of hope.

[shraby]

1. I think you're right, not only all this but we were robbed of a Supreme Court pick.

[planetc]

2. You're absolutely right.

But what do you make of Democratic leaders' silence on the issue? This has been gnawing at me since 2004. Do our leaders know what's going on? If they do, why are they silent? If they don't, are they competent?

[milestogo]

3. I think they have to know.

Anyone running for statewide office or even for congress consults with a statistician who knows where the votes have been and where they are likely to be. They know what the turnout is like from year to year.

Why don't they speak up? Why don't they fight? If someone loses an election they are afraid of looking like a sore loser. They quiet down as if it were the best thing for the country... Gore, Kerry, and now Clinton.

Honestly I think they forget that its not about THEM - its about US. But individual politicians are afraid of damaging their reputations. This is a fatal mistake for democracy. When there is something wrong with the system, there is a moral obligation to identify it.

[diane in sf]

4. The Democratic party better quit ignoring the Reublican vote suppression tactics, which is why we

have trump, the gerrymandering, why we have more voters, but they have more Representatives, privately owned, nonauditable voting machines, etc.

[Blue_true]

7. Democrats need to focus more resources on

Local elections. We need to get the idealistic, yet practical twenty somethings running for school board, county commissioner and mayor. A lot of them will lose on the first try, but with their youth and Democratic Party backing, they will be in state capitols in their early thirties and on the national stage in their early to mid thirties. Republicans moved ahead because we focused exclusively on top level state races and President instead of building our bench with bright young candidates and field operations people.

Lastly, maybe it is my bias, but I am no big fan of street protests. My preference is to work precincts to get as many people that think like us active in governing.

[milestogo]

8. The point of my post is that if we don't get a hold of our election process

we Dems aren't going to be electing anybody. Doesn't matter if they are young or old or what they are running for. We will be a one party nation.

[agenasolva]

5. I agree

We need total election reform. I was also suspicious about the results. Hillary was supposed to win. I don't even know one single Trump supporter in my neighborhood. It's all a little fishy.

[Blue_true]

6. What we should do is stop fighting eachother

And fight the much larger problem, republicans.