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Vice President Mike Pence proclaimed his intentions to fight for the lives of the unborn but Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has taken extreme steps to shut down choice by women. After Abbott made an order that all women who have abortions and miscarriages must pay to have the remains buried, women launched a protest.
The Dallas Morning News reports that one woman, Ele Chupik, took to Facebook to urge women to send their used feminine hygiene products to Abbott. The same thing happened to then-Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN) when women launched Periods for Pence. Chupik had no idea that women would actually do it, but they did.
Unsure about fertilized status of these panty liners, one anonymous sender wrote including her package.
Through December at least 17 women mailed their bloodstained products to the Texas governors office according to records the paper obtained.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/bury-this-used-menstrual-products-pelted-at-texas-governor-after-he-signs-fetal-burial-order/comments/#disqus
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)need to be sent as well. All those millions of potential babies!!!
Rex
(65,616 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)tenorly
(2,037 posts)Takket
(21,578 posts)but they can force you to buy a burial?
Initech
(100,081 posts)And now our vice president is leading a rally in DC as the anti-women's march.
joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate." I'm kidding of course, but your comment brought back this memory.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)As I recall, the second this charming tune ended Michael Palin sold his entire herd off for medical experiments.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Chuckle, chuckle.
I just wish someone had a camera trained on him when he opens the packages.
rurallib
(62,426 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,193 posts)cold tuna
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)It worked for women in Africa who refused to have sex till they got what they wanted, forget what. But the men gave in.
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)I've been asking my husband where all the reasonable men are in this country?? Why the hell aren't men more vocal about support for birth control and choice?? Why? He has no answer. Maybe we should start an abstinence campaign to battle these fucking morons who want to force women to 'bury a fetus for jeebus'.
JFC. I'm mad. Again. Still.
TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)On third margarita. Considered sending real thing. Will find daughter's red markers instead.
classof56
(5,376 posts)how on earth would a law be enforced? I'm a post-menopausal female, long past fertility, brain cells dying at a rapid rate, however, I simply cannot comprehend the logistics of this policy. Suppose I could google it, but thought maybe some reasonable and sane DUer could enlighten me.
Tired Old Cynic
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)for some type of "pregnancy control" police unit, like police don't already have too much control over our lives. It would be similar to what some dipshit Indiana legislator proposed in a bill several years ago, which would have mandated that women report any "premature pregnancy end" at all, whether miscarriage, premature labor and stillbirth, or abortion, to police within no more than ten hours after it occurred. This included miscarriages within even the first several weeks, often before women even know they're pregnant, and failure to report to the police would be a crime.
And if a doctor suspected a miscarriage that hadn't been reported, he or she would have been required to report it. He backtracked after a national firestorm of ridicule and anger rained down on him, but remained defiant in his explanations for why he felt it was important and said the only reason he withdrew it was because he was tired of being "misunderstood." Well, no, asshole, you weren't "misunderstood", you were CAUGHT. The police were none too happy about it, either, and one can understand why.
I imagine it wouldn't be too hard for them to resurrect this idea and actually seriously try to enact it this time. Criminalizing miscarriages as well as abortions would be right up their alley.
kimmylavin
(2,284 posts)When I wound up in the hospital with my first miscarriage, doubled over in pain, scared & heartbroken, the ER doctor would have been sure to remind me to fill out the form confirming a miscarriage; the state would contact me later, with funeral home info. And if I didn't, he'd have been required to report it himself, or risk prosecution. (Never mind that most of the tissue went down the shower drain at home - I guess I'd have to retrieve it, for the sake of "dignity," right?)
Or my second miscarriage, which happened entirely at home. I went to the doctor for a follow-up after that. That's when I would receive my funeral home info, and heaven help me if I didn't empty the toilet and save everything in a jar - again, dignity.
My third and fourth miscarriages, though - they were planned d&cs, so easy-peasy! The hospital would provide the funeral service at a price, so I wouldn't have to worry about anything!
And the fifth miscarriage was at home again, with the help of pills. (Which would of course be illegal in this brave new world.) Maybe the doctor wouldn't have been able to give me the pills without a products of conception collection box?
At which point I would be bankrupt, and not able to afford to have kids, anyway.
But you see, it's all dignified. Not at all invasive or horrific. It doesn't matter what I think, it only matters that the five "children" my body so ruthlessly kept from living be given their dignity.
God, this pisses me off.
Freethinker65
(10,024 posts)I can relate
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Massive internal bleeding. So the hospital would have been required to save all that blood, send it to the Lab to find that tiny embryo to bury it? Bury it in what? Everything was medical waste and incinerated. Isn't that cremation? Excuse me, but isn't cremation legal for already born people?
Stupid, stupid, stupid, and CRUEL.
I do understand the point of women sending in their tampons and pads since many women can "miscarry" in the first month and never know. Bury all your menstrual products because their might be a "baby" in there.
classof56
(5,376 posts)My heart aches for what you and others, including my own daughter, have gone through when enduring miscarriages and the aftermath, both physical and emotional. To be required by law to conduct funerals in such circumstances is sickening. Like you, the mindset behind these "laws" not only pisses me off, but leaves me bereft of spirit attempting to understand it.
Lord help us all.
Tired Old Cynic
murielm99
(30,745 posts)Let's hear it for all those nasty women. I love it!
aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)I see no evidence of mass hurling.
RedWedge
(618 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)draconian policies? How about these "good Christians" stepping up to the plate and adopting them? They don't want the kids after they are born, they don't want the expense, and if they were honest, it is all for political gain. They could privately care less!
HAB911
(8,904 posts)for those in the anti-choice crowd would work
Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)pending the outcome of a yet unscheduled trial.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/10e2fbfbf2964ac5a311ab4c33adfb99/federal-judge-again-blocks-texas-fetal-remains-rules
dalton99a
(81,526 posts)flying-skeleton
(697 posts)HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Glamrock
(11,802 posts)but I applaud their bravery!