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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen we have people like Warren giving in to Carson...
that is when you know... there is no hope. Trump has the whole GOP and Dems.
Mike Nelson
(9,967 posts)...loved Warren - a real heroine. Still, this is a big disappointment and I would put her on notice. She can be replaced with a more suitable person. That's a job and consideration for the people she represents.
ALBliberal
(2,344 posts)Lower than their Republican governor. I can only guess she is making the mistake as Democrats so often do of running to the center courting moderate republicans. Very disappointing.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)She's doing what she needs to do.
ALBliberal
(2,344 posts)This is the behavior that has plagued our party for too long. In not staying true to her beliefs she loses credibility with her base and in the process this courtship of moderate republicans fails to provide the opposition party we especially need. Will be interesting to see if her polling improves.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)And Carson is probably among the least damaging appointments.
There are better battles.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)It is what needs to be done to get anything done. There are certainly more important battles that need to be fought and won.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)This is a very serious issue as are all. I think it's time to resist. Totally resist. We can not normalize Trump.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)If Dems fight him on everyone, it looks partisan. If we're very selective, we probably can get more support to exert pressure on more critical nominees.
Lucky Luciano
(11,260 posts)dalton99a
(81,590 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)for 8 years of W's administration...........I think they still have the same dry powder and maybe will use it in 2040.
Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)everything and was given the government.they couldnt have been more partisan and they were handed the government. the dems should have block and should be blocking everything the cons do
KG
(28,752 posts)'don't wanna seem too partisan'
mythology
(9,527 posts)There is something incredibly hypocritical about complaining that Republicans denigrated Obama and did absolutely nothing for 8 years but obstruct and that was bad, and then turning right around and arguing Democrats should do the same. It's far more intellectually honest to accept that we lost an election, we can act as opposition, but it would be morally wrong to act like Republicans did to Obama. It's the same basic principle behind why we shouldn't torture even if our enemies do.
Winning and losing elections has consequences. Screaming that everything Trump does is the worst thing of all time dilutes being able to have a claim taken seriously when Trump does something that is actually really horrible.
Appointing Carson to a position he is unqualified for is bad. But it's the equivalent of appointing Michael Brown. It's stupid, it's a bad choice. But it's not a Muslim registry. By doing nothing but screaming that Trump is the worst thing of all time, you come across as the boy who cried wolf.
KG
(28,752 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As you did, regardless of its lack of evidence, and our surprise that you could indeed, pull it out without a doctor's assistance.
(six of one, half a dozen of the other... insert rationalization below to maintain pretense of relevance)
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)bdamomma
(63,922 posts)aware of what's going on other than feeling sorry for tRump.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Pelosi called Carson a "disconcerting and disturbingly unqualified choice" in a statement.
"Our country deserves a HUD Secretary with the relevant experience to protect the rights of homeowners and renters, particularly in low income and minority communities, and to ensure that everyone in our country can have access to safe and affordable housing without facing discrimination or homelessness," Pelosi said in the statement.
"There is no evidence that Dr. Carson brings the necessary credentials to hold a position with such immense responsibilities and impact on families and communities across America."
Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)her but expect everyone else to fight the consequences of their inaction?
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Vinca
(50,304 posts)"You don't suppose they didn't want to vote against him because he's black, do you?" That had never occurred to me. Is it possible Democrats didn't want to offend POC and proceeded to vote for a guy whose only qualification is that he has lived in a house?
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Every one of Trump's nominees should be opposed. All the Dems have to do is vote No, it takes little time and would encourage the resistance. Warren is wrong on this one.
ALBliberal
(2,344 posts)Did Warren or any other Senator ask him to disavow this or to pledge to get the rate reinstated? Seems this would all be near and dear to Warrens heart.
FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)Biden never got past his role in approving Clarence Thomas, smells very similar to me.
Retrograde
(10,158 posts)but I don't know if he's actively malicious like most of the nominees. I still think Chao's nomination is payback for her husband killing the last Supreme Court nomination.