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http://www.npr.org/programs/all-things-considered/On All things considered, Ari Shapiro interviews Mike Vigil a DEA agent with 30 yr experience. Ari asks him about the wall trump wants to build to help stop drugs. Mr. Vigil said it was nonsense. How could medieval technology work with todays tech? He then says ultra light with a lawn mower engines could deliver right over the wall.
This made me think about a news report I heard long time ago about a tunnel network that had been built. Makes me think that money would be better put to use else where. Wait until the trumpers find out they are going to be footing to bill for it.
I can remember the republicans crowing about tearing down the Berlin wall just to build it here?
Takket
(21,625 posts)How does the wall stop someone from tunneling underneath it?
or laddering over it?
louis-t
(23,297 posts)Every photo I've seen of the current mish mash of barriers shows someone climbing over, tunneling under or simply walking around a wall.
Takket
(21,625 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Will cost the taxpayers 50 quillion dollars by the time it's operational(ha!).
Wonder whose pocket that will end up in?
But what a disaster. The wall might just be to keep us in.
avebury
(10,952 posts)wall with the Berlin Wall. Where is Check Point Charlie going to be?
Trump said there was going to be doors but I like check point charlie. Maybe someone could make a spoof with the bridge of spies with the Trump wall.
True Dough
(17,320 posts)then Drumpf can be the doorknob.
Bear Creek
(883 posts)Great Wall was built in the 14th through 17th centuries A.D., during the Ming dynasty (1368-1644). Though the Great Wall never effectively prevented invaders from entering China, it came to function more as a psychological barrier between Chinese civilization and the world, and remains a powerful symbol of the countrys enduring strength.
Blue Idaho
(5,057 posts)About the Maginot Line, ask the East Germans about the Berlin Wall...
Walls don't work.
Initech
(100,102 posts)And if I recall from history, didn't conservatives champion Reagan for telling Gorbachev "Tear down this wall!!!!". Now they're like "Mr Trump, build this wall!". Hypocrites, the whole damn lot of them!!!
Blue Idaho
(5,057 posts)Iggo
(47,565 posts)I thought that was cute.
It's to stop brown people.
Can go over, under and around it. Wont work. But logic is missing.
Iggo
(47,565 posts)But you don't see them clamoring for a wall on the US/Canadian border.
Because the wall along the Mexican border is intended to keep out not just people, but brown people.
They are already here! I thought this type of crap would be over. For college I had to write a paper and doing the research found out that they did not want Arizonia and New Mexico to be states because "people who are brown can not rule themselves" it is in the congressional record. Cuba expected to become a state after the Spainish American War. Just think how things would have turned out by just doing the right thing the first time.
Mosby
(16,350 posts)Cocaine, Methamphetamine and Heroin.
Mexico is the top "exporter" and the number one source of the drugs I mentioned.
There is already 650 miles of wall, it just does not work very well.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)cracks in the wall 10 feet from the port.
The freeze on hiring Federal Employees will quickly decimate the Border Patrol. Last year they cut overtime formula for the BP and some stations are experiencing significant turn over. BP agents ended up $10k less than before and thought that DT was going to make them whole.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)You'd think that we would have revoked the bill in 2009. I sure wish we did.
Kingofalldems
(38,475 posts)I notice your first sentence is what you want to say. The second sentence seems to be for cover.
panader0
(25,816 posts)walk across? The idea of the wall is so stupid as to not be believable.
What about a wall around our airports where many foreigners arrive
every day? Don't forget our seacoasts....
Bear Creek
(883 posts)They dont care about white illegals. Also Canada is the one cheating us on the NAFTA and not Mexico. I heard on a news program that Mexico is looking to Europe for trade deals first instead of the USA. There are ways that this is the equvalent of shooting your own foot then sticking it in your mouth. This is going to back fire.
Vinca
(50,303 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)So we cant escape.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,194 posts)underpants
(182,878 posts)I've been meaning to catch his show. It does strike as a bit of Alton Brown's schtick on The Food Channel but I'm okay with that.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Much of the best information on why it would be senseless for Donald Trump to build a wall on the border between Mexico and the United States has come from the YouTube. I first saw a report by A+J that listed a number of problems that would arise from trying to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border. This video presented more helpful information.
The mainstream media never seems to deal with the how and why of building the wall. They tend to just go to the border and interview a few people. Some will say they would be happy for the wall to be built. Others will say a wall should not be built. I do not think I have seen a story on the mainstream media that lists the difficulties that would be faced in building the wall.
Mosby
(16,350 posts)and yet cocaine, Meth and heroin keep pouring across.
Let's not pretend there isn't a problem.
http://www.voanews.com/a/wall-already-runs-along-parts-united-states-mexico-border/3428323.html
Is useless. The money would be better used on something else. Ask china how the wall kept out the Huns. Mexico is not the drug problem. And if the USA does not have good relationship with them the problem will be worse. Not sure that law enforcement is not the problem. Lots of dark money envolved. We might depend more on them than the other way around. Most of the food is from there and the workers from there pick it here.
onecaliberal
(32,894 posts)Where there is a will, there is a way. That wall isn't going to stop anyone.
Thomthom5300
(16 posts)Isn't their a law that says undocumented workers can NOT work? Start going after companies that employ people that are not permitted to work and the problem goes away. Big fines should do it.
Bear Creek
(883 posts)But irrational thinking is guiding them. Make the companies hurt who hire them. But wait they claim to be victims. Maybe hiring undocumented workers with substandard work practices and pay should be considered human trafficking.
Thomthom5300
(16 posts)besides who is he gong to get to build a wall or put up a fence... his son? undocumented workers... I guess they can camp in Mexico...