BOOM: WaPo went there.

[babylonsister]

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/25/1625091/-BOOM-WaPo-went-there?detail=facebook

BOOM: WaPo went there.
By Skibird
Wednesday Jan 25, 2017 · 2:50 PM EST


I’ve been wondering who in the mainstream press would be the first to put the pieces together and have the courage to write about Trump’s obvious mental incapacity.

Jennifer Rubin just dropped this:

Maybe Trump isn’t ‘lying’

Schumer calls that a political problem. He gently offered, “In general you cannot run a country unless you know the facts. If you’re going to believe your own facts, whether it’s about what Putin is doing in the world or what jobs or companies are doing here, you aren’t going to be able to govern, so I worry about it.” The shorter version: If he cannot accept reality, he is not fit to carry out the duties of the president.

We are not calling — yet — for invocation of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment. (“Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.”)

We are calling for someone, perhaps his children, to see if they can prevail upon him to stop behaving in this way, for if not, legitimate worries will mount about whether he is able to carry out his duties. We also are saying that Republicans need to be pressed to state their view: Is he lying or is he unable to separate what he wants to believe and what exists, literally, in front of his eyes? The first makes him morally unfit, and was the basis upon which many #NeverTrumpers refused to vote for him. If the latter, they — and we all — have a constitutional crisis the likes of which we have never seen. With Trump, however, we have learned the past provides no guarantees.

[rzemanfl]

1. Three recs in the time it took to read this. K&R n/t

[Lucinda]

10. ? Some of us have already read the article and are just boosting it's profile here. n/t

[rzemanfl]

13. Of course. Didn't think of that. n/t

[wordpix]

2. dangerous moron like Bush*, whatever Dump's lying stems from

[GP6971]

3. K & R !! n/t

[Jacob Boehme]

4. Echos from the McCarthy era witch hunt....

... should be tweeted back to tRump after every one of his obnoxious tweets...

"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

(delivered 9 June 1954 by Joseph Welch during the Army-McCarthy House on Un-American Activities Hearings)

Further reading: http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html

[GliderGuider]

11. Trump's lawyer back when was Roy Cohn...

And IMO Steve Bannon, is Putin's man in the WH, making sure nothing goes off the rails.

[Blanks]

32. What's Bannon's tie to Putin? eom

[GliderGuider]

35. His agreement with Aleksandr Dugin's goals and methods.

I'm convinced that Dugin is the architect of this catastrophe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin

[SledDriver]

30. I may create a twitter account

or maybe several, just to echo this back on every one of his tweets

[2naSalit]

41. He never had any decency to begin with, therefore, he can't have any left. nt

[DK504]

5. His idiot children won't tell him the truth because

they are diluted as he is. Even Ivanka can't get through to him. She's sitting in on meetings. WTF.

Everything he's doing is illegal, who will bring forth the impeachment papers?

[lapislzi]

28. The children are not idiots

They are manipulative, greedy, insidious little shits in it for whatever they can get out of it. There is barely a person in government, and certainly none in the executive branch, who cares a tinker's damn for the welfare of the republic, the planet, or humanity. The six or so who still care are going to need all the help they can get.

[CrispyQ]

34. This.

[PJMcK]

29. Perhaps you meant "deluded?"

Damn spell-checkers! However, each of the Trump clan is certainly a "diluted" human being. (wink)

Impeachment, of course, has to begin in the House of Representatives. Given the rabid Republican majority, no Articles of Impeachment offered by Democrats will go anywhere. It will have to come from the Republicans. For now, at least, that seems highly unlikely. But what a show it would be if some GOP Representative(s) put country before party.

[hamsterjill]

48. But seriously, what does that say that the children are even being asked to do this?

Are the children supposed to be responsible for keeping their father calm? Sane? What is they can't or won't?

I'm in no way arguing - just expounding on your very sound premise. I don't want some son-in-law running things because the person who is supposed to be President is crazy. I want a President who is capable of running the country.

I realize what I just said applies only in a normal world, and we are so far from normal at this point that it's pathetic. But I hope you get my drift.

[Warpy]

6. WaPo is my bedtime reading these nights

Got a deal and a half on the electronic version over at Amazon.

I have not been a bit sorry. They're coming out in total opposition to the man-baby.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

17. Thanks...6 months free....

3.50 a month after that... did a search for amazon 6 free months washington post...

[meadowlark5]

7. I wish democratic senators and representatives and governors the media

Would take that narrative and push it and push it like Trump and all of his lackeys did about Hillary's health during the campaign.

This is a legitimate concern and question. If he is unable to accept facts and simply believes things he thinks, then that is very dangerous when dealing with not only issues here but events around the globe.

This should be a non-stop question and concern voiced by as many people as possible. It will either make him stop, make his handlers stop him or convince American he is insane and mentally unfit.

[dalton99a]

25. Indeed.

[Princess Turandot]

8. Here's a link to the actual Rubin piece...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/01/25/maybe-trump-isnt-lying/

She writes opinion columns for WaPo from a conservative/Republican perspective. She's got multiple entries today criticizing Trump: https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/jennifer-rubin/

[babylonsister]

9. Thanks.

I've read my limit for the month so unless I pay, I'm not allowed to read it. That's why I depend on articles like this.

[progree]

27. Getting around the pay wall (or wiping it out)

Just go into your browser's settings and delete the cookies for (the Washington Post or whatever publication). You get to start over at 0.

Someone on DU posted this, sorry I can't find. Here is something I found with more instruction on how to delete cookies for specific websites --

How to Delete Cookies in Chrome, Firefox, Safari, IE,.... BELOW SEGMENT IS CHROME
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-delete-cookies-in-chrome-firefox-safari-and-ie/#ixzz4Vooge800

Type “chrome://chrome/settings/content” into your address bar and Chrome will take you to your intended destination.

( The long way to get to the above: Settings -> Show Advanced Settings (link at very bottom of the page) -> Content Settings -> Cookies section -> All Cookies and Site Data )

In the list of Cookies and site data I typed in "twin" and found twincities.com and did a "remove all shown"
similarly "start" listed startribune.com and mstartribune.com and I did "remove all shown"
similarly "nytimes" gave me several new york times ones and I got rid of those

Washington Post would be washingtonpost.com

Anyway, I've deleted some cookies but haven't actually tested whether this works -- because I haven't hit the monthly limit on any publication yet.

[spooky3]

38. Why not support the work they are doing and pay the small amount

For online access? They can't survive with financial support from readers.

[progree]

40. I'm supposed to pay every paper $100/year? Adds up pretty quickly

I believe in paying for one paper. But its ridiculous to expect to have to pay every paper that amount.

I do also subscribe to several weekly's and monthly's.

[zeusdogmom]

51. I get WAPO access

With my Columbus Dispatch subscription. I get the daily paper along with digital access to the Dispatch and thE Post. Pretty good deal. And yes - we need to support our local newspapers.

[dalton99a]

12. Rubin has been quite outspoken about Trump. Deplorables hate her.

[Skittles]

14. NOW they're talking about it?

THE MAN HAS BEEN FUCKED UP FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES NOW

[ProfessorGAC]

22. Well, He Was Just A Nut Before

Now, he's a dangerous nut, Skittles!

[dalton99a]

26. +1

[eleny]

15. He's turning his first week in office into a heavy yoke around our necks

You have to be bananas to do that.

[bucolic_frolic]

16. Been calling him delusional for months

since June, really, if not March

Why has it been so difficult to convince so many Americans of the obvious?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

18. Fox Spews, Frightbart, Rash Limpbutt. n/t

[Chasstev365]

19. His Children? His sons Uday and Qusay are as crazy as the old man!

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

20. Unfit in every way.

US must boot him by any means necessary.

[Stellar]

21. I subscribe to Mother Jones and WaPo because they bring it.

Rachel Maddow says we should support whoever are the ones that bring the news, because print is about to go under if we don't support them.

[spooky3]

39. I totally agree.

[bdamomma]

44. true

yes journalists need to keep their jobs.

[Stellar]

45. The good one's do and we need them too. nt

[spanone]

23. K&R...

this applies to the entire hateful republican party....

[SticksnStones]

24. Kicking

"a constitutional crisis the likes of which we have never seen"
(autocorrect kept changing 'likes' to 'lies'...I think my iPad's become partisan)

Surely there are enough republicans who will PLEASE put country before party. The added danger to our troops in Iraq after claiming he's going back for the oil...surely that will rock them out of their election afterglow.

[bigtree]

31. k&r

[kwassa]

33. once again, Trump has a narcisstic personality disorder.

According to the DSM-5, individuals with NPD have most or all of the following symptoms, typically without commensurate qualities or accomplishments:[8][11]
1.Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from others
2.Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
3.Self-perception of being unique, superior and associated with high-status people and institutions
4.Needing constant admiration from others
5.Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
6.Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain
7.Unwilling to empathize with others' feelings, wishes, or needs
8.Intensely envious of others and the belief that others are equally envious of them
9.Pompous and arrogant demeanor

NPD usually develops by adolescence or early adulthood.[8] It is not uncommon for children and teens to display some traits similar to NPD, but these are typically transient without meeting full criteria for the diagnosis.[11] True NPD symptoms are pervasive, apparent in various situations, and rigid, remaining consistent over time. The symptoms must be severe enough that they significantly impair the individual's ability to develop meaningful relationships with others. Symptoms also generally impair an individual's ability to function at work, school, or in other important settings. According to the DSM-5, these traits must differ substantially from cultural norms in order to qualify as symptoms of NPD.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

[bdamomma]

46. here's another article

in Psychology today.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mood-swings/201610/trumps-temperament-not-narcissistic-not-normal?collection=1098329

just a snip of the article.

The phenomenon of Donald Trump has led some to wonder about his psychological state of mind, and whether he would be an effective president. My analysis is: Donald Trump likely isn’t psychologically normal, in the sense of having hyperthymic temperament, which paradoxically could benefit him in some ways as a leader, though not the kind many of us would want. Hyperthymia also would explain many of his personal foibles.

First, let’s put aside some simplistic notions. He’s not narcissistic, because that term doesn’t mean anything scientifically. It was a metaphor invented by Freud a century ago. It isn’t a scientific hypothesis. To the extent it can be studied scientifically, the concept of “narcissistic personality disorder” has been disproven in scientific studies. Experts realize that it is weak empirically. It isn’t “valid”, which means it doesn’t separate from other personality disorders as real diagnosis. (In fact, the DSM-5 personality disorders task force recommended that it be removed from the official diagnostic manual, but the APA Board of Trustees rejected that scientific recommendation. That's another story).

When people say Trump is narcissistic they just mean he has high self-esteem, and they don’t like him.

But there is a psychiatric condition associated with high self-esteem, sometimes very high, and it is much better established scientifically than narcissism.

Consider: He sleeps 4 hours per night, about half the biological norm. Yet he’s very energetic, creative, talkative. He talks about having not just high physical, but also sexual, energy. The question of his sexual behavior has become central to the campaign in recent weeks. If we take him at his word, and if these reports are true, all these symptoms reflect being sped up, above the usually normal range, in one’s feelings, thinking, and movement. That’s the definition of “manic” symptoms. (This doesn’t mean being delusional and thinking you’re Jesus Christ, just like “depressive” doesn’t mean you want to shoot yourself).

[kwassa]

50. Interesting article, but I'm not sure I buy the author's thesis.

Narcissistic personality disorder has been a diagnosis, and it perfectly fits Trump. This might be the sole opinion of this author.

Hyperthymia explains very little of Trump.

[Citrus]

36. Ridiculous, and here's why...

Trump's children and their spouses are just like him. This is like asking the foxes to guard the henhouse (an oldie but a goodie). They share the same bigoted and insane views that he has. Moreover, it's simply not possible to beg, plead, cajole or otherwise bargain with someone who is mentally ill. He is not capable of behaving any other way. His father's bigoted views (eugenics not the least of them) are shared by DT and his offspring.

I repeat: Asking his children (or anyone, for that matter) to put a lid on an exploding bomb is pointless. The bomb is going to explode anyway.

[cilla4progress]

37. He's not the first sociopath in history to have ascended

to the leadership of a country.

It would be incredibly interesting to understand this dynamic.

[manicraven]

42. And there's NO changing them.

Most of the time, they don't even believe they have a problem. Trump needs to be removed from office. The GOP has really nothing to lose as Pence will step up as President, and the unhinged tRump will no longer be a threat to humanity.

[VOX]

49. Precisely. It's "hard-wired" pathology.

There's no convincing, swaying or shifting a personality disorder. It's resistant to meds and talk therapy.

My mother-in-law is a board-certified psychotherapist; she confirms this.

[homegirl]

43. Donnie has

been behaving this way for almost 70 years-he is not going to change and no amount of intervention by his family or advisors will change him. If he weren't wealthy he would be so far gone he would be homeless living under a bridge.

[bdamomma]

47. his family

will deny their father has a problem. They all rally around him. We can see that. Even stupid Pence.

[elleng]

52. 'If he cannot accept reality, he is not fit to carry out the duties of the president.

We are not calling — yet — for invocation of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment.'