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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo end to how disgusting Trump fans are on the internet
So Trump fans (read: internet trolls) now have a tactic (not really new; same old same old) when they issue a claim.
Troll: "It's true, illegal voters cost Trump the popular vote. Everyone knows it. It's a fact! Millions of illegals voted!"
You: "Please show me your facts, citing reputable impartial evidence."
Troll: "No, I don't have to. You go find it yourself and do your own homework. Wake up, sheep!"
Got it. So, posting opinions (e.g. bullshit) now substitutes in their "minds" for an actual discussion based on factual data. And they really think this is going to reverse the growing tide of revulsion and disgust for their hero.
Let's envision a scenario: little Billy goes into school having been assigned a book report and the teacher asked him what he chose.
"Johnny Tremain."
"What is it about, Billy?"
"Go read it yourself and find out! It's not my job to provide any information! Hey, what do you mean you're giving me an 'F'????! This is obvious bias! You can't handle the truth!"
Pitiful. Pathetic. Predictable. Pointless. Putrid.
Qutzupalotl
(14,327 posts)If they can't, you call bullshit.
Initech
(100,102 posts)Because they can't win arguments without name calling. Good lord the phrase "libtard" sets me off.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Attempting to substitute for rational thought.
Initech
(100,102 posts)And people who post this shit think it's funny. I would counter that with a similar flow chart that says "Are you a racist? Yes - I'm a racist. No - I've said racist stuff but I'm not racist - Yes - you're a racist."
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)I've started limiting my reading to the first couple of comments and their responses. Anything more sends my blood pressure through the roof, something I can't really afford at my age. Plus, I find that comments can get repetitive pretty quickly on some of those threads.
I have observed that the overall number of trolls appears to be decreasing. This seems more evident on the threads dealing with hard news stories directly focused on issues striking at Trump supporters/critics alike (such as the rescinding of the FHA mortgage insurance rate cut) as well as stories that begin to look more like the descent of outright fascism (such as the various actions to control the message in favor of the administration). No numbers to support this, just an observation of what appears to be happening.
I've toyed with the idea of attempting some sort of analysis of troll response to political topics on FB, but my time for that kind of thing is currently focused on another aspect of the election.
Initech
(100,102 posts)I have an ongoing segment "How To Talk About Trump For Dummies" in the last few editions.
Part 1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028339262
Part 2: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028364726
Part 3: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028430675
Part 4: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028460081
Part 5: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028490129
Use this guide at your own discretion!
mreilly
(2,120 posts)That's all they can do. Whine the above three words/phrases. Over and over. Go on any RW forum and it's all this:
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You get the point....
hells
(141 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)louis-t
(23,297 posts)Am I right or am I right?
Initech
(100,102 posts)"Annoy a liberal - work hard and be happy!"..
I counter that with: "Annoy a conservative - spell correctly and use proper grammar!"
Laurian
(2,593 posts)Their large presence on social media (even if they just spout garbage like that one did) reinforces that crap for the less intellectually curious Trump supporters and makes them think they're in the majority. They'll never come to their senses as long as they are able to follow the Trump blowhards online.
I think this is likely an orchestrated social media blitz that's been carried over from the election.
So keep challenging them!
They want to own the narrative with lies - and these people will lie. Deliberately, gleefully and without shame. I don't give a damn about trying to change any of their sorry, foul little minds, but I refuse to allow them to smugly tell other people what to think.
Oneironaut
(5,524 posts)They'll ask for evidence, but the only acceptable source is one that confirms their point. If asked for evidence, they'll either use nutty websites, or will start launching ad-hominem attacks on you.
They start with "the answer" and only want to confirm their beliefs, not challenge them.
ck4829
(35,091 posts)Instead of "Please show me your facts, citing reputable impartial evidence." instead respond with "Did you get that from WorldNutDaily?" or "What other drivel did Breitbart drill into your skull today?"
If they defensively say no, respond with "So you're just making it up then? Pulling alternative facts out of the air?"
It is safe to assume that what a Trumper says is not a fact, from something that is not reputable, and has no impartial evidence to back it up and so you should act accordingly.
mreilly
(2,120 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,818 posts)... with equally fake facts.
TROLL: "It's true, illegal voters cost Trump the popular vote. Everyone knows it. It's a fact! Millions of illegals voted!"
YOU: "I know. I've been reading that millions of illegals voted, and most of them voted for Trump. It's been all over the news - can't believe you missed it! Turns out the illegals actually handed him the election!"
TROLL: "Please show me your facts, citing reputable impartial evidence."
YOU: "You go find it yourself and do your own homework. Wake up, sheep!"
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Love your counter claim
Like I said on Facebook today . . . maybe the voter fraud was in Florida or North Carolina or Pennsylvania or Michigan
mreilly
(2,120 posts)I am using this in every single way! Thank you for this - and I know your stuff from prior posts and love it!
Folks, if they're going to use this shit in our direction, we are MORE THAN ENTITLED to fire it back in theirs! I have always said I would never deliberately tell a lie, but meeting them on equal ground - the ground THEY attempt to set to their own advantage to screw their opposition - is perfectly fair.
Johonny
(20,888 posts)because that's what the propaganda people well tell them to say.