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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJohn Cornyn just said the GOP would eliminate the filibuster to approve a Drumpf SCOTUS pick
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)no question about it.
Solly Mack
(90,780 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Solly Mack
(90,780 posts)But in the end, the GOP has the numbers.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)all we can do really is impose political pain on them
Initech
(100,100 posts)So traitor Mitch McConnell denied Obama a SCOTUS pick for an entire year because they don't want to give up control, and now they're going to further ignore the constitution? And they expect us to play nice? Fuck that shit!!!!
Freethinker65
(10,043 posts)Longtime lurker 99
(88 posts)msongs
(67,438 posts)herding cats
(19,567 posts)I'm not sure if they're this stupid, or not.
JudyM
(29,270 posts)herding cats
(19,567 posts)For the next two generations, anyway.
JudyM
(29,270 posts)This article gave me a little hope today, though, maybe there's something to it ... see what you think: https://shift.newco.co/https-medium-com-peteleyden-why-trumps-inauguration-is-not-the-beginning-of-an-era-but-the-end-72a86833f0a3#.bi6y549vd
herding cats
(19,567 posts)I had my own hopes, too, but that article doesn't figure in the Supreme Court and it was written without assuming they'd remove the filibuster.
I'm deeply worried, and I'm not seeing a pretty outcome here.
JudyM
(29,270 posts)of retweets/forwards/kudos when they stand up to it. It feels like we are on the brink of something with them, if they can stick it out and not fall back asleep.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)They'd need 60 and democratic senators would have more say but judges except Supreme Court and appointees were changed in 2013 by the democratic senators. They were supposed to get the majority this last election. Both parties take risks.
JudyM
(29,270 posts)DFW
(54,436 posts)Their buddy PUTUS can supply the small quantities of Polonium or something with even a shorter half life, knock off Bader-Ginsburg and Breyer, and then they nominate and ram through two fifty-ish right wing ideologues. Voilà! An extremist right wing Supreme Court for the next twenty years, ready to bless every right wing court challenge to any reforms a Democratic president might try to implement, even with a friendly Senate and House. Remember Citizens United? Five to four in their favor, but it permitted them to pour enough dirty money into the races of 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016--three our of four of which we got our asses handed to us even with more people sharing our views than theirs.
I used to hear the derision of some erstwhile political allies in the six months prior to the election: sure, sure, the Supreme Court. Is that ALL you got? I used to answer, no, but it's all we'll have if the next president is a Republican. Their answer to that was, "yeah, yeah, you're just another die-hard Hillary supporter." Until she was the nominee, I wasn't, but after the Convention? You had better believe it. Events since last Friday, plus events that will occur in the next four to eight weeks should make this clearer, just in case it isn't already. Two more Scalia clones deciding on voting rights, abortion rights, civil rights and human rights instead of two Ruth Bader-Ginsburg clones. Put THAT in your conscience and smoke it.
Abolishing the filibuster entirely will mean the party that controls the Senate, if it controls the White House, controls most of the nation. Whatever this might mean for the next Democratic President, if the Senate is not to become a rubber-stamp body, this safety switch must be left open.
herding cats
(19,567 posts)When I stop and think about it, a properly padded SC would also help ensure racial driven gerrymandering, voter ID laws and and potential further infringements on the right of American's to vote. It's a veritable blank check, legally speaking, which could assure Republican control of many areas for the life of those currently elected. I won't go into my vision of the country by the end of that period, I'll just say bleak doesn't do it justice.
I ran into several of those, "is that all you've got" types when explaining why a protest vote was a terrible idea. In many ways they reminded me of Trump supporters. They were so blinded by their own limited and flawed perceptions that they were literally willing to vote themselves into a future of living hell. You couldn't reason with them about how all our gains for the past 50 years will be undone, they simply refused to hear it. Now we're all up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
JudyM
(29,270 posts)Reid wasn't.
It seems they know what's happening and are willing to get much smarter than they've been. Frankly, the fact that Bernie has a voice in strategy discussions is a comfort, at least to me. He has a broader view of how to get us out of this mess, and we all need to actually participate to make it work. It's going to be a huge struggle but that doesn't mean it's hopeless.
DFW
(54,436 posts)Not from the Senate, but as minority leader. This is position that requires a 24/7 fighter. Just ask the Republicans. I don't see where Bernie has a view to get us out of this mess. I see him as having a view of what do once we do get out of this mess--if we ever do. McTurtle is no idiot, knows his way around the Senate as well anyone, and he'll be expecting most any move Schumer can make. After all, he spent years making them himself. We have a lot riding on Schumer's skill as a tactician.
JudyM
(29,270 posts)2. Working through amendments to reshape legislation is Sanders' other forté.
He's a sharp guy who knows his way around McConnell. He's not snowed and cowed like Reid was; he doesn't underestimate their depravity. He has no one to answer to except his constituents who trust him enough to give him a lot of leeway. And he now has the attention of both the larger electorate and the press.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)as expected
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)two party Elections. Talk about dysfunctional Senate . Never to return as a deliberation body of Congress.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)LeftInTX
(25,532 posts)If he says something I don't think he is the person to contact. I think it should be vulnerable R senators.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Judging from your SN, you are one of his. Google "indivisible guide" to get tips from former COngressional staffers.
We need to blow up their phone lines. The only senators I'm to call are Cory Booker and Bob Menendez. A vulnerable R senator wouldn't listen to me or you.
C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)Their grasp on power is based on deceit, manipulation and pure republican bullshit.
Even if they hold on for a generation, anything this corrupt cannot last.
The GOP may collapse on its toxicity or it may take an uprising of good people.
But history shows over and over that fascist tyrants often end up
hanging by their heels in the public square.
napi21
(45,806 posts)ankles. I need help with wrapping 'em and hoisting 'em on the cable though.
rzemanfl
(29,567 posts)LeftInTX
(25,532 posts)I won't bother with Cornball, he has already made up his mind.
adigal
(7,581 posts)Just like they did to Pelosi some years back. Im in.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)They've got the House, Senate, and Presidency now. They're going to do whatever the hell they want to. That's where we are at right now.