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MOSCOW (AP) Russian Defense Ministry says its warplanes have flown first combat mission in Syria with U.S.-led coalition aircraft.
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*******BREAKING****** USA AND RUSSIA CONDUCTING JOINT SORTIES OVER SYRIA (Original Post)
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2017
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I may not have this right, but CNN said AP reporting U.S. was LEADING the sorties with the Russians.
PearliePoo2
Jan 2017
#4
Yep, I just heard this reported LIVE ON CNN. No verification yet. Extraordinary.
anneboleyn
Jan 2017
#9
Russia's goal isn't world war. It is to make us as hated among many Muslims as them.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2017
#7
Here we go...US military is 'not coordinating airstrikes with Russia in Syria', Pentagon says
jmg257
Jan 2017
#10
The AP reported the Russia/US air strike and Spicer said that they talked with Russia last
anneboleyn
Jan 2017
#12
So Russian Defense Ministry is putting out **FAKE NEWS**? Interesting, if true.
chelsea0011
Jan 2017
#18
Generator
(7,770 posts)1. Oh my god what does this mean?
We are now doing Putin's foreign policy for him? Or?
LeftInTX
(25,555 posts)2. Where did you hear this?
I was listening to Spice Boy in C-Span
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)11. Was reported live on CNN -- their source was a breaking AP report
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)3. So, in other words, Russia was given secret intelligence. n/t
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)4. I may not have this right, but CNN said AP reporting U.S. was LEADING the sorties with the Russians.
Yeah, wtf does this mean? What's going on?
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)9. Yep, I just heard this reported LIVE ON CNN. No verification yet. Extraordinary.
Initech
(100,103 posts)5. So this is how World War 3 starts. Great.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)7. Russia's goal isn't world war. It is to make us as hated among many Muslims as them.
Aviation Pro
(12,187 posts)6. It means
They're deconflicting the airspace.
Yonnie3
(17,485 posts)8. with U.S.-led coalition aircraft
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/APNEWSALERT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Russian Defense Ministry says its warplanes have flown first combat mission in Syria with U.S.-led coalition aircraft
Russian Defense Ministry says its warplanes have flown first combat mission in Syria with U.S.-led coalition aircraft
jmg257
(11,996 posts)10. Here we go...US military is 'not coordinating airstrikes with Russia in Syria', Pentagon says
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/23/us-denies-russia-airstrikes-syria
More alternate facts?
The Pentagon has flatly denied a Russian government claim that both nations warplanes conducted a joint combat mission in Syria.
On Monday, the Russian defense ministry claimed to have received coordinates of Islamic State positions via a US-Russian communications channel, and that two jets from the US-led coalition participated in a strike alongside Russian aircraft.
But the Pentagon, now helmed by Trumps appointee James Mattis, issued a round denial of the Russian account.
The Department of Defense is not coordinating airstrikes with the Russian military in Syria, said spokesman Eric Pahon, who added that he was not aware of any coalition member aiding Russia in this instance.
On Monday, the Russian defense ministry claimed to have received coordinates of Islamic State positions via a US-Russian communications channel, and that two jets from the US-led coalition participated in a strike alongside Russian aircraft.
But the Pentagon, now helmed by Trumps appointee James Mattis, issued a round denial of the Russian account.
The Department of Defense is not coordinating airstrikes with the Russian military in Syria, said spokesman Eric Pahon, who added that he was not aware of any coalition member aiding Russia in this instance.
More alternate facts?
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)12. The AP reported the Russia/US air strike and Spicer said that they talked with Russia last
weekend. At this point I believe the AP.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)15. yep - could be they do not want to spill the info for whatever reason. nt
herding cats
(19,567 posts)17. The AP isn't saying that yet, though.
There is this tweet:
The Associated Press
The Associated Press
@AP
White House spokesman Sean Spicer says Trump is open to working with Moscow to fight the Islamic State in Syria. t.co/LV4lmOSvTU
The Associated Press
@AP
White House spokesman Sean Spicer says Trump is open to working with Moscow to fight the Islamic State in Syria. t.co/LV4lmOSvTU
And this article by the AP:
As the Astana talks continued, Moscow and Washington engaged in a public dispute Monday over whether the U.S.-led coalition was now working with the Russian military in Syria.
A Russian Defense Ministry statement said that its warplanes had flown a joint mission with coalition aircraft, attacking IS targets near the city of al-Bab. The statement said that Russian forces in Syria had received coordinates of IS targets near al-Bab on Sunday "from the U.S. side via hotline with the international coalition headquarters."
That claim was almost immediately denied by the U.S. military.
U.S. Air Force Col. John Dorrian, a coalition spokesman, labeled the Russian claim as propaganda.
U.S. Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said the U.S. does have routine "deconfliction" talks with Russia to avoid unintended aerial incidents in Syria's crowded skies. But Davis says there have been no changes to that arrangement, and the U.S. has insisted for months that it has no coordination or sharing of targets with Russia.
Later in the day on Monday, White House spokesman Sean Spicer said new U.S. President Donald Trump was willing to work "with Russia or anybody else" to defeat IS.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4e6da394345a40269ba3dc5c3685de35
A Russian Defense Ministry statement said that its warplanes had flown a joint mission with coalition aircraft, attacking IS targets near the city of al-Bab. The statement said that Russian forces in Syria had received coordinates of IS targets near al-Bab on Sunday "from the U.S. side via hotline with the international coalition headquarters."
That claim was almost immediately denied by the U.S. military.
U.S. Air Force Col. John Dorrian, a coalition spokesman, labeled the Russian claim as propaganda.
U.S. Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said the U.S. does have routine "deconfliction" talks with Russia to avoid unintended aerial incidents in Syria's crowded skies. But Davis says there have been no changes to that arrangement, and the U.S. has insisted for months that it has no coordination or sharing of targets with Russia.
Later in the day on Monday, White House spokesman Sean Spicer said new U.S. President Donald Trump was willing to work "with Russia or anybody else" to defeat IS.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4e6da394345a40269ba3dc5c3685de35
BeyondGeography
(39,380 posts)13. US is denying the report
herding cats
(19,567 posts)14. So far, this is all I can find from the AP on the topic
A Russian Defense Ministry statement said that its warplanes had flown a joint mission with coalition aircraft, attacking IS targets near the city of al-Bab. The statement said that Russian forces in Syria had received coordinates of IS targets near al-Bab on Sunday from the U.S. side via hotline with the international coalition headquarters.
That claim was almost immediately denied by the U.S. military.
U.S. Air Force Col. John Dorrian, a coalition spokesman, labeled the Russian claim as propaganda.
U.S. Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said the U.S. does have routine deconfliction talks with Russia to avoid unintended aerial incidents in Syrias crowded skies. But Davis says there have been no changes to that arrangement, and the U.S. has insisted for months that it has no coordination or sharing of targets with Russia.
Later in the day on Monday, White House spokesman Sean Spicer said new U.S. President Donald Trump was willing to work with Russia or anybody else to defeat IS.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4e6da394345a40269ba3dc5c3685de35
That claim was almost immediately denied by the U.S. military.
U.S. Air Force Col. John Dorrian, a coalition spokesman, labeled the Russian claim as propaganda.
U.S. Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said the U.S. does have routine deconfliction talks with Russia to avoid unintended aerial incidents in Syrias crowded skies. But Davis says there have been no changes to that arrangement, and the U.S. has insisted for months that it has no coordination or sharing of targets with Russia.
Later in the day on Monday, White House spokesman Sean Spicer said new U.S. President Donald Trump was willing to work with Russia or anybody else to defeat IS.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4e6da394345a40269ba3dc5c3685de35
It looks to me like the military is denying this, but Spicer added fuel to the propaganda fire.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)16. respectfully
"Russian Defense Ministry says" should NOT be broadcast here as BREAKING NEWS.
Just catapulting the propaganda.
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)18. So Russian Defense Ministry is putting out **FAKE NEWS**? Interesting, if true.