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According to The New York Post, Kennedy is planning a run for the senate in 2018. This is absolutely amazing news, as its about time a Kennedy be involved in American politics again.
The Posts sources say that, not only is Kennedy planning on a senate bid, but that she may also be running for president in 2020:
Caroline had a successful ambassadorial run in Japan and feels really very confident about putting her hat in the ring for a New York congressional or Senate seat, with even possibly bigger political objectives down the road.
http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/22/jfks-daughter-caroline-kennedy-just-made-a-historical-career-announcement-get-ready/
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)JI7
(89,271 posts)She tried to run for senate before and didn't do well. And she had teddy then also .
I can maybe see a senate run if gillibrand runs for pres and the party unites behind her. But she really isn't good in public although i do believe she would do a great job as senator if she actually got there.
Cha
(297,681 posts)Senators in New York are filled for quite awhile.
I can't see her run for Senate against Gillibrand.
If she were in a state with a Republican senator then maybe
But even then...
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:55 PM - Edit history (1)
Time to bring in new Progressive candidates!
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)Thanks and done!
We really don't need another dynasty candidate after the recent backlashes.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Seems irrational to accept or deny a candidate based solely on genetics. As for backlashes, it does not follow (how logically fallacious), and merely illustrates bias...
Gore1FL
(21,151 posts)It's the baggage that comes along with the surname.
Hillary and Jeb have a lot of insight into the matter.
BeyondGeography
(39,380 posts)Forget NY. Schumer is in until 2022 and Gilllibrand is entrenched.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)djg21
(1,803 posts)What seat does she intend to run for? Gillibrand is already on the short list for Presidential candidates in 2020, and is going to be easily reelected to the Senate in 2018. Schumer isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Unless Cuomo elects not to run for a third term as Governor and Gillibrand runs in that race in 2018 (which is not likely given that Cuomo also wants to be President), there is no place for Kennedy in NY. Maybe she'll run for a seat in some other state?
Squinch
(51,014 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)not a huge fan of political dynasties, but I will keep an open mind about this as things move forward. Interesting that she intends to run for Senate in 2018 with a clearly announced plan to run for President in 2020. I don't think that speaks well of her consideration of either the role of Senator or the constituents from the State of New York. Sort of an "I'll just borrow this seat for a couple of years while I get my campaign for another office in place".
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)Also in the parliament of Denmark, we have way too many members of such self-centered families. To grab an elected position based on a well known family name is just shameful. Sorry for the ones who then has to find other games to play, if a family member already took that ride - but that is life!
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Every Trump cloud has a silver lining??
BeyondGeography
(39,380 posts)Gillibrand could run circles around her blindfolded.
adigal
(7,581 posts)federal immigration laws, and worse:
Ms. Gillibrand, a Democrat, opposed any sort of amnesty for illegal immigrants, supported deputizing local law enforcement officers to enforce federal immigration laws, spoke out against Gov. Eliot Spitzers proposal to allow illegal immigrants to have drivers licenses and sought to make English the official language of the United States.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/us/politics/28immigration.html
I know she has tried to whitewash all of this, but her father is a huge Republican lobbyist and I do not trust her.
http://www.npr.org/sections/politicaljunkie/2009/02/gop_hopes_to_pick_up_gillibran.html
BeyondGeography
(39,380 posts)But at least she can hold onto her seat in NY as long as she wants. Take her out from behind the scenes, and Caroline Kennedy is a dud.
madaboutharry
(40,220 posts)I would not believe anything they write. And where is she going to run? She is from New York. Is she going to challenge Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand in a primary? This story is bullshit.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)This site along with politcususa and another one I can't think of right now tends to exaggerate and have headlines I would call clickbait.
They are "on our side" but sometimes it's just not really accurate reporting.
and both of those NY seats are Democratic. I don't see cause for excitement. Let her run for Rep House seat.
mia
(8,362 posts)Where else to begin about Ambassador Caroline Kennedys time in Japan than the end of her term? It featured her starring role in a lighthearted video from the U.S. consulates in Japan of a Christmas-themed Koi dance, which captured the hearts and smiles of the Japanese. Kennedys popularity was not simply a product of her celebrity background but also was grounded in her humility, accessibility, charm, grace and respect for Japanese heritage, from that dance to a deep appreciation of Japanese arts.
She made real, subtle contributions behind the scenes. One example was when President Obama visited the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park and Kennedy suggested that he should look around the museum contrary to the will of the presidents staff, after having visited Hiroshima herself several times as a student, diplomat and in the company of Secretary of State John F. Kerry. She was keenly aware Obamas visit to Hiroshima would not have had the same powerful, moving symbolism beyond the test of words.
On the other side of the alliance, the depth of Japans trust was shown when Prime Minister Shinzo Abe asked her advice on his statement to commemorate 70 years since the end of World War II. She advised Abe to make his reflections on the history between Japan and Korea more explicit. The text of Abes speech contained the line, We must never forget that there were women behind the battlefields whose honor and dignity were severely injured, which was a hint toward the so-called comfort women issue. In both cases, Kennedy played a crucial role in enhancing the meaning of the reconciliation efforts....
Standing toe-to-toe with these great diplomats, the reconciliation gestures under Caroline Kennedys tenure are historic. The visits by Obama and Abe to Hiroshima and Pearl Harbor, respectively, did not actually create or cause reconciliation the cause is a long strategic alignment process of compromise and cooperation which has been in the making for the past 60 years. John F. Kennedy envisioned visiting Japan in his second term to reconcile with the crew of late enemy, present friend Commander Kohei Hanami. In the Pacific War, Hanami was involved in the sinking of Kennedys PT-109. Thus, Caroline Kennedy made the finishing touches to the culmination of a reconciliation process that has long been underway. It was truly the finest form of reconciliation diplomacy....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/01/18/caroline-kennedys-historic-contributions-to-u-s-japan-relations/?utm_term=.5feeac90a7ce
Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)whom CKS would have to primary in 2018. Gillibrand is also one of the early names being mentioned a lot for 2020.
BTW bipartisan report is largely a click-bait site, whatever their leanings. Often enough, they will recycle months old news as 'breaking news'.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Murdock rag. Just trying to cause trouble for Gillibrand who is VERY well liked in NY. Running would be a mistake for Caroline.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Total BS.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Looks like the right wing rags are trying to stir the pot.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)Warren only edged out Scott Brown to get elected in the first place and Charlie Baker is still very popular in Massachusetts. "Could beat" is also different than "will beat"
nycbos
(6,038 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)if the republican corporate donors feel like he has a legitimate shot of knocking off Warren, their biggest foe, the pressure to get him to run is going to be insurmountable.
Alekzander
(479 posts)for a political office. Also, & this is not dissing her but she is not a good campaigner or speaker. There is a lot of good she can do in so many other ways with the respect she has from so many.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)She has worked very hard for her constituents and deserves her seat. My sister's boyfriend, a former union steward based in Western New York, says she has been very reliable in her support of working constituents up there. My partner and I have found her office very responsive when we had a major issue here in NYC. She is consistently in the forefront of good legislation. She fights the good fight.
I would like to see Kennedy enter politics. It would be ideal if she could flip a tenuous red congressional seat. She is an extremely bright woman with a true dedication to public service. Would love to see her blossom into one of our Congressional leaders.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)On a scale of one to ten, I'd say she's a two.
Maybe that would work running for Congress (and she'd be great in Congress, imo), but she would have a huge deficit right from the start if running for president.
LeftInTX
(25,555 posts)She is good with details, but I don't think she has leadership skills.
Fla Dem
(23,753 posts)Chuck Schumer who was just re-elected and Kristen Gillibrand who will be up for re-election in 2018. Has Gillibrand announced she isn't seeking re-election?
This would not be a good political move on Kennedy's part.
And why would anyone believe anything the New York Post publishes (owned by Rupert Murdoch). This is all to sow dissent within Democratic ranks and/or begin a smear campaign against Kennedy. They are already describing her as the next Hillary Clinton. Surely a twisted attempt to taint her. This is all a News Corp subversive plot.
angrychair
(8,733 posts)A common refrain during the primaries and election was that government had become like a aristocracy, with special royal families, as in it being a Clinton or a Bush controlling some part of government in one way or another for decades, I doubt switching to a Kennedy is the way to address those type of concerns.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)I find her very difficult to listen to. I want to be excited about her but I think the only thing that excites me is her name.
Sorry, no. We need someone who is inspiring.
She's shy. Japan was perfect for her. America? Nope.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Liberals and Democrats (Liberals don't care much for Caroline Kennedy but Democrats do).
Divide and conquer works extremely well in U.S. elections. Like sheep to slaughter.
Remember, it's how Trumputin won the EC vote and thus the White House, people.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)I think she is very smart, and was well thought of by US and Japanese officials in Japan. But, she sounds oddly bad and unpolished in most of her interviews and public speaking.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,899 posts)against a pretty popular and effective incumbent of her own party? And that after a mere two years in the Senate (if she actually wins that first election) she'll go for the big prize?
Why do I think this is totally made up crap?
And for any of you who think she might have some chance of pulling off even the first one, just do a bit of on-line research so you can be completely blown away by her eloquence. Or lack thereof.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)I appreciate all the other DU'ers who posted already saying this is divisive crap being spread by Murdoch.
DinahMoeHum
(21,809 posts)Anything they say should be taken with more than a grain of salt.
onenote
(42,763 posts)The original NY Post article does not say she is planning on a senate bid. It says that she feels confident about putting her hat in the ring for a congressional or Senate seat. I don't see her mounting a primary against Gillibrand. If one of the NYC congressional seats comes open because of a retirement, I could imagine her making a run for it, but I'd have to see in a more reliable source than the NY Post.
IntraPolitico
(51 posts)This is the exact kind of thing we need. Moderate, Left, Right (and even some Republican) Americans will be united for her name.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)It's Historic. Not Historical.
Let's not make the same mistake Herr Golddusche's Sec. of Edumacational Ministries for Jeezus® did.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread....
moda253
(615 posts)We just elected a man that is about the worst speaker I've ever heard in my life.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)I think she is very intelligent and classy
colorado_ufo
(5,737 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)didn't we all just learn (in spades) that charisma is NOT transferable?
Warpy
(111,351 posts)and I dislike all dynasties, particularly political ones. They just never live up to the advance advertising.
And consider RFK, Jr. He's a leader of the Know Nothing anti vaccination movement. He's made a career of colossal ignorance.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If she wants to do it and has the fire to try and connect with the voters, great. Her name shouldn't disqualify her.
But honestly part of the reason for doing away with Kings and all that is that the idea that leadership should be a meritocracy (See: Obama, Barack. Disregard: Trump, Donald) not the notion that you are somehow more qualified to lead because you have 50% of the same genes as a previous good leader.
edited to add: Also Patrick Kennedy, who is now on a crusade against legal weed because he had a problem with pills, which makes less than no sense.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,595 posts)Retrograde
(10,158 posts)to a wealthy allied country, where you get to hob-nob with other high-ranked diplomats, and being a senator from a large, highly diverse state whose inhabitants expect you to do stuff for them. I saw the footage of her in Buffalo back in 2009 when she was being considered as Hillary Clinton's replacement: she came across as wanting to get away from those uncouth, common, voters as quickly as possible.
Aside from her name and ancestry, what does she have going for her that would make her a good candidate for elected office? Especially in a state with two popular, Democratic senators already?
leanforward
(1,077 posts)I like the idea. And she is someone that is not too old.
nkpolitics1212
(8,617 posts)running for POTUS in 2020 up for re-election in 2018.
If Warren-MA is the Democratic nominee in 2020 and defeats Trump, Caroline Kennedy runs in the 2021 special election.
If Gillibrand-NY is the Democratic nominee in 2020 and defeats Trump, Caroline Kennedy runs in the 2022 special election.
Cory Booker-NJ is up for re-election in 2020, If he decides not to seek re-election to the US Senate in 2020 to focus on a Presidential run, Caroline Kennedy could run for the US Senate from NJ in 2020 or 2021 if Booker wins the US Senate Race and Presidential Race.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Having the name gives her exactly zero more ability, intelligence or capability over anyone who doesn't share that name or bloodline.
If you strip away the name and family money what if left? Not a lot, and there are far more qualified Democrats out there.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)lose.
It would be smart to give up her seat and run for president in 2020 since NY would go red in 2018.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)we really don't need more political and economic elitists running for office.
joanbarnes
(1,723 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Pass the salt, please. Not saying it isn't true, but the source is historically shaky. Need to see this story in something more reliable and less right-wing.
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)Joseph Kennedy III (grandson of Bobby & Ethel) is the representative from Massachusetts' 4th Congressional District.
This whole story starts off with a bogus headline. No, she did not make a "historic announcement".
Then, if you read the larger story on the link, it makes outrageous claims, such as Kennedy has equal policy and political work on her CV as Clinton does. Absolute rubbish.
Then there is the what anyone who has watched Kennedy's family for years knows. Caroline Kennedy is not good in the limelight, and shuns it much like her mother did. She has purposefully stayed out of the limelight most of her life, and even talked about not wanting to be in the public eye. She came out to support Obama because her kids were urging her to. When asked to take a job by Obama, she accepted one that would keep her out of the public eye for the most part.
This article is just bunk.
stuffmatters
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