I'm with Chuck Todd

[bigtree]

...and that's fricking amazing, because that man has been working against our interests for years.

It's amazing to watch as Trump steps all over the mainstream press' toes, insulting them at every opportunity, banning them and threatening to ban them, as Kelleyanne did with Todd on MTP this morning.

Thing is, these major news outlets would be content serving as mouthpieces for the conservative political establishment. Yet Trump, Conway, and Spicer have so antagonized them that, not only have they alienated them from their messaging, they've rallied more viewers and readers to the MSM's defense. This, right after a period of decline in readership and viewership for NYT, WP, CNN, and others.

I agree with Chuck Todd, that it's 'baffling' why they've chosen to be so defiantly untruthful. I mean, politicians are known for shading the truth or exaggerating to the point of falsehoods. However, the degree to which Trump and his cohorts are working to pass off obvious and provable lies as truth is stunning and incredibly insulting.

I can understand why they believe we're idiots out here. After all, look who got elected. Yet, this is just making them look like complete fools. I'm fine with that, but it gotten to the point where they deserve more than just a rebuke from one of their former shills. There needs to be consequences for these lies, beyond the public shaming.

What I'm going to hope and look for is that one forum or inquiry where Trump is so accustomed to reeling off a lie, that he doesn't notice the jeopardy he's placing himself in, like in a deposition, for example. He's so arrogant that prospect is more than likely in his future.

Let's hope it's sooner than later. My television is in severe danger of some serious collateral damage.

[spanone]

1. they are drunk with power...conway is so condescending...i can't stand her for over 30 seconds

[Cha]

15. I never want to endure her ugly lying mug again.

First time I heard her this morning was to get through the todd interview.. wanting to see her trip up and answer the question and see todd's replies to her.

I felt violated. It was sickening

[C_U_L8R]

2. Chuck ought to call a lie, a lie

he did an okay job of staying on-target with Conway
but geez, aren't journalists getting tired of these Trump creeps
lying straight to their faces??? Punch back !

[bigtree]

3. I agree

...they seem to be waiting for an all-clear, or something, to resume their reciprocal groping.

[beachbum bob]

4. I think they...Todd.. Wallace...Even Scarborough have been pushed

To the point of condoning trump lies is now a reflection on their own veracity.. and credibility.....

[democratisphere]

5. Chuck did a great job attempting to get a straight answer

out of Skeletor Conway. As usual, no go.

[bdamomma]

6. I can't stand

how she slanders and lies about President Obama, and she thought those wonderful protests were about the American people being pissed off about Obama. Like WTF?????

What a stupid bitch she is.

[Cha]

16. No she didn't think that.. she was trying to lay the blame at

President Obama when everyone knows, who is anybody, that she's a sneaky liar.

I hope to hell they do ban all press..keep her Lying ass off the gd tv except foxscrews.

Any Protestors watching that show, hearing her ******* Bullshit.. will just make them more mad and determined to Fight AGAINST the BLOTUS Sociopathic Fascist REGIME.

[JI7]

7. fuck Chuck Todd

While he might be right in this case he is part of the overall problem .

[bigtree]

8. I thought I made that perfectly clear

...it's a baffling dynamic where Trump is alienating people who would normally be licking his feet.

[Generator]

9. Trump is probably threatening their children

I know he's threatening mine. But I say nyet.

[Rex]

10. Toad said it was not his job to check facts when politicians come on his show.

Hope he eats those words every single day. Todd doesn't like Trump or his goon squad, that is obvious.

[Cha]

18. Right.. I forgot about that momentarily.. he certainly

ate them yesterday. spicerfact got to him.. it was awfully brazen for a first WH presser.

He wanted to know.. why go out and blatantly LIE about something so obvious? kac told him they were alternate facts.. he said they were still a "falsehood"/AKA/LIE.

Glad he did set the precedent of dogging the question to the end. We'll see if it has any bearing on the next blatant Lie they tell to the American People.

[Xolodno]

11. Trump was a darling when he helped to give good ratings...

...now Trump is implying, now that he's the prez, they have to give him good reviews...otherwise, he won't give them any air time and deprive them of ratings.

In other words, they are being blackmailed. CNN to their credit seems to have figured that out real fast and went on the offensive...because, well, scandals bring ratings. Now everyone is trying to follow. Trump's demonetization of the media may have finally backfired....well, for at least a few networks.

[roamer65]

17. I remember a certain former CNN employee saying that the place was CIA loaded.

Makes sense CNN is getting the scoop on the Russian connections, eh?

In this case, it's a good thing.

[Wounded Bear]

12. They are working from....

The media is starting to realize, I hope, that they are the front line against it.

[Cha]

13. I know bigtree.. good analysis.. the m$m fawning gopress would

have loved to be the stenos for BLOTUS and his gang of LIARS but Noooooo.. they decided to treat them like the enemy. Maybe for a devastating reality that comes out they brush it off with "the press can't be trusted"?

How the hell do they think they got in power in the first place? Several factors but a friendly press to trump and a hostile to Hillary helped them immeasurably.

"I can understand why they believe we're idiots out here. After all, look who got elected."

Yeah, and they refuse to believe that Hilary got 3 Million more votes or that the Women's March got more people than their inaug.. or that it didn't get the most people EVER.. including President Obama's in 2009 and 2013.

I imagine psychologists have all sorts of names for this type of behavior.. whatever.. it's sick and they do need consequences in kind. Before they take our country down with them.

What I'm going to hope and look for is that one forum or inquiry where Trump is so accustomed to reeling off a lie, that he doesn't notice the jeopardy he's placing himself in, like in a deposition, for example. He's so arrogant that prospect is more than likely in his future.

It's got to be.. trump tripping himself up finally on his own big lying mouth.

[ForeverABoomer]

14. It's not PARTY anymore, it's Ideology

Ideology needs fought with a different tactic.

I think the rift brought on by Trump is one, not of party, but of ideology. It's no longer the Liberals (for the people) vs. conservatives (for big money). Even moderate conservatives will tell you that Trump is not a representative of conservative values. He's a maverick who chose to run on the GOP ticket. And, he specifically wants to widen the rift, and cause all of us to fall. Education does play into that ideology gap, because those who are educated are more tolerant of differences in culture, as in "live and let live". Through education, the more you are exposed to, the more you understand others and their lives. Educated people are often also more traveled.

When my hometown lost its "lifestyle" (due to the oil crash in the 80's), all of us natives scattered, to find better jobs -- and the educated children from my town were not bringing that back home by 1990. They went away to college, and then didn't bring back their knowledge to the small town. Why would they? There were no good jobs there anymore. (Remember who was in office in the 1980's?)

I left for Colorado, land of opportunity. But when I came back to my hometown in Kansas in the late 90's, OMG ... it was a whole different place. The culture I had grown up with: one of always do better, always learn more, always give back -- had been over-run by lower educated, nearly backwards-thinking cretins. Where there had been the successful and bright were now displaced by the "country-fide", prejudiced hicks! They say, "you can never go home".... that was so true!

If we all, as Americans, do not come together to fight this disease that is trying to split us (to fail), the toxic ooze they emit is going to seep into the cracks between us, and they'll glory in the fact that they could do it! Trump is already using Putin's playbook. We have to (first) recognize and acknowledge this for what it is -- and then as the wiser, we have the tools to oust it from our country.

No matter the GOP blusters around, and says Democrats didn't connect with people. Poo-Paw, we can't just hash it over, and wring our hands. Trumpism is trying to sway all our thinking. Democrats and Conservatives together are going to need to tackle this Trumpism with a new set of rules. Past banter back-and-forth won't be what wins. Trump seized on the internal unrest brought on by Obama-haters (black President, bigot group) and saw a way to widen it. Currently, there is (maybe) 1/3 of the country in this hater mode. Bi-partisan efforts need to develop plans to stop it before the percentage grows. There is no time to sit around and discuss this issue.

TWITTER -- @ForeverABoomer