Joy Reid panel says trump people are scrubbing govt databases,

[Ilsa]

at least in Health an Human Services. They're going to create their own set of facts for the really important stuff, like successes under the ACA, claims of who has lost healthcare because of it, etc.

It's not just about the lies told from behind the podium in the press room.

[yardwork]

1. Of course. It's all going to be "alternate facts" from here on out.

By the time Trump is done, nobody will trust any government data. He will have destroyed trust in all our agencies.

[Generator]

2. If we don't fight back every day

There will be no more truth. This is the beginning of the long war. That was all I thought yesterday-this feels so euphoric but it is only one day. We have to get in the streets all the time. I just fear people will give up and deny what is happening.

[Ilsa]

3. Yeah, but we can't get in the streets every day.

People have busy lives, responsibilities. What do we do, call our reps every day?

[Doremus]

19. We need to organize general strikes for starters & other tactics that hit them in their pocketbooks.

Nothing convenient about fighting for Democracy.

[Ilsa]

21. You're right. Very true. NT

[shraby]

4. Aren't those government records? What they are doing is illegal.

Those are supposed to be kept for reference and studies.

I hope they've been archived already.

[Ilsa]

6. I hope they are archived. I bet no one in Trump's admin cares about "illegal." nt

[dalton99a]

11. The emperor will not investigate himself - and has pardon powers.

[2naSalit]

5. That's why they prohibited the CBO from analyzing their shit.

[mopinko]

7. where are they getting this- millions lost their insurance shit?

rly? this is news to me.
maybe people lost worthless policies that cost too much. but lost coverage all together? i dont think that happened.

[TrekLuver]

8. I'm so glad that KellyAnne creature said alternative facts this a.m. I really hope that will be

a constant source to bite them in the ass.

[msongs]

9. isnt scrubbing a violation of keeping documents and data laws? nt

[dalton99a]

10. U.S. government data and figures WILL be falsified and manipulated under this presidency.

[Rex]

12. Disturbing, for many reasons. nt

nt

[AgadorSparticus]

13. Wow. Just wow.

[GliderGuider]

14. Climate scientists began a rogue archiving action.

http://www.businessinsider.com/scientists-archiving-government-data-trump-2017-1

In November, Bergman got together with some friends and other Ph.D. students at Harvard and started brainstorming how to preserve the data that scientists think is valuable. They soon found other scientists and policymakers with the same concerns and joined a group called the Environmental Data and Governance Initiative, which formed after the election and is working to archive publicly available information and monitor changes in government websites.

The group has about 50 members, and it is rapidly working to download and store the government's scientific data. The members are interviewing scientists, policymakers, and current and former agency employees to prioritize which websites and data to protect for the scientific community.

They have proprietary software that is crawling government websites and downloading all the information they contain, including both what the sites say and look like as well as the PDFs, links, and other reports they contain. For things the crawler can't catch — like online databases or interactive platforms — the group is assembling volunteers and paid coders to capture and archive the data.

For reports and information that aren't available online, the group is working with the Sierra Club to submit requests under the Freedom of Information Act. According to a Bloomberg report, the requests could ensure that agencies don't get rid of files, since government agencies aren't permitted to destroy files that are pending public release.

[malaise]

15. Rubbish - I bet they're all backed up

several times

[Ilsa]

16. I would think. But it doesn't mean researchers

or reporters could access it if they've developed bullshit data for public consumption.

[justiceischeap]

17. If it was once on a website, the Wayback Machine is our friend and source

It's a site that archives websites.

[Ilsa]

18. Awesome. I hope they can't get away with their shit. nt

[watrwefitinfor]

20. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, all administered by

Department of Health and Human Services.

Wat