Whoa on Faux' Chris WALLACE Elijah CUMMINGS demolishes ISSA & Tbone PICKENS vs the KOCHs
Couldn't find a link to the PICKENS thing, but the Chris dude asked him why he abandoned wind energy and the answer was that the price of natural gas determined the feasibility, that that price dropped from $7 (per ???) down to $2 and that he had lost $150M and that the KOCH brothers wanted the natural gas for their fertilizer schemes so that was that. Haha, the incredibly gluttonous eating each other up!1
*************QUOTE*************
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday/2012/06/24/rep-issa-rep-cummings-debate-holder-contempt-congress-vote
CUMMINGS: I have kept that promise and I will keep that promise.
You got to understand. A year ago, I had a nephew who was slaughtered and shot with a gun. I see it in my district and I see it in my city. I see what guns can do. And I am determined to do that.
But you've got to understand something, Chris. This contempt proceeding has nothing to do with the murder of Brian Terry. What we are dealing with -- and Chairman Issa has made it clear -- we are dealing with now some documents where there is an effort to, number one, figure out how this false document was submitted to the Senator Grassley.
And keep in mind that there was false information, Chris, that was sent to the legislative department of the Department of Justice from the folks down in Phoenix. That is the ATF. These are the same people, by the way, many of them, who were carrying on operations like "Fast and Furious" since 2006. In other words, they were operating in the Bush administration. They sent these false documents up there.
And Mr. Issa knows that. He knows that. ....
WALLACE: Let me explain to folks who have not followed this closely. In February 2011, a little over a year ago, the Justice Department sent a letter to Senator Grassley said no gun walking operation where they had let the guns go over the border. In December 2011, they had to send another Congress saying that wasn't true, retracting the letters. So, that's why February 2011 is such a big day.
Congressman Issa, you talk about finding the truth about Brian Terry. But you have refused to hold a public hearing with the people at Phoenix ATF who actually ran the operation. You have refused to hold a public hearing with the former head of ATF, Ken Melson, this person whose email you're so interested. You refused a public hearing with him and he has testified that he never told the higher ups at Justice Department about "Fast and Furious".
*************UNQUOTE*************
= new reply since forum marked as read
our government. Remember he took Bush & appointments and moved them into permanent full-time positions (otherwise these appointments would have ended when the Bush* administration ended).
This resulted in Bush* people still working (or maybe even sabotaging) inside the Federal Government. Maybe some of these people are even department head leaders or help develop & implement policies. Maybe even lie to those in which they are answerable.
I think about this a lot.
