Look At This Crazy Chart, Gasp, And Then Never Watch Cable News Ever, Ever Again

[Omaha Steve]

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[Sherman A1]

1. This is one of the many reasons I don't bother watching cable news at all

beyond the Weather Channel, or as it is sometimes called MTV for old folks.

[Skittles]

52. yup

I dumped cable - I have absolutely NO use for cable TV

[hobbit709]

71. You got it.

I quit watching the network Sun morning yammerheads over 20 years ago and my opinion of them hasn't improved.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

2. MSNBC is still on my watch list. n/t

[PatrynXX]

30. NOT MINE

especially with that Glenn Beckkk spinoff coming. eek. can tell news corp does own part of it. zzzz

tend to watch Rachel off the RSS

[MsPithy]

35. MSNBC Sat. and Sun. mornings,

the Chris Hayes and Melissa Harris-Perry shows are totally worth watching! I don't have cable that carries MSNBC, or Current, for that matter, so I watch them online. On these shows, rich, old, white men are the minorities.

http://upwithchrishayes.msnbc.msn.com/

http://mhpshow.msnbc.msn.com/

[flamingdem]

77. Thanks for those links

I've been wanting to catch CH

[rainy]

81. Chris Hayes is phenomenal! N/t

[xxqqqzme]

84. I wish Chris was replayed on the left

coast. 5 AM is a little early for me on a Saturday morning.

[ProgressoDem]

40. What?

What Glenn Beck spinoff?

[csziggy]

61. One of the people on the new show

I think it's called "The Cycle".

Dylan Ratigan got fired or is just leaving, not sure. Martin Bashir moves to 4 PM and the new show will be at 3 PM.

The new program, which the network was set to announce on Thursday, will feature a permanent cast of four: conservative commentator S.E. Cupp, author and pundit Touré, Salon writer Steve Kornacki and former Congressional candidate Krystal Ball. All were previously contributors to the network. The show launches on Monday at 3 PM.

More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/21/the-cycle-msnbc-3-pm-se-cupp-toure-_n_1616709.html

S. E. Cupp's 'credentials':

In 2011, she was hired as a writer and commentator for Mercury Radio Arts,[7] the organization owned and operated by Glenn Beck. Shortly after being hired by Beck, she was given her own show, "S.E. Cupp" on the Insider Extreme broadcast found on Glennbeck.com.[8] That show has since moved to GBTV.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._E._Cupp#Journalist_and_commentator

[Bette Noir]

64. I will NEVER watch a show hosted, even in part, by Sippy Cupp.

[csziggy]

67. Yeah - I doubt I will

Which is going to screw up my afternoon news watching. Usually I watch Tamron Hall from 2 to 3, and then would watch Martin Bashir starting at 3. Then I would find something else to watch at 4 since Ratigan was so abrasive.

I may just give up MSNBC in the afternoons. I wish Current TV's sound quality were better - it's been so erratic I can barely watch it.

[Shankapotomus]

69. Sippy Cupp?

Is that all you got? It sounds almost like an endearment. We have to work on your insults. LOL

[AnneD]

83. C Cupp....

another weak assed way to reach out to women or just pander to WASP males. You decide.

[Bjorn Against]

3. Don't watch television news again, not just cable is the problem

3 out of the 4 sources that your chart cites are not cable, virtually all television news should not even be considered news whether it is on cable or not.

[barbtries]

66. thank you for pointing that out

it was the first thing i noticed.

just don't watch tv news. period.

[The Wizard]

74. All we get is propaganda

The blatant Pox version and the subtle version offered by corporate propagandists.

[Odin2005]

4. This is why I stopped watching the MSM.

[JHB]

5. Three of those aren't cable...

...so it's even worse.

[Chiyo-chichi]

24. One could argue that none of them are cable.

Fox News Sunday is initially aired on local Fox affiliates, not the Fox News Channel, though it is rebroadcast there, I'm told (I don't watch FNC).

[frazzled]

6. These Sunday news shows aren't cable: they're network

They're talking about Meet the Press, etc.

Still, don't watch cable either.

[SoCalDem]

75. Just Political-Porn

I have not watched ANY of them for DECADES

[NRaleighLiberal]

7. we are about 98% off TV as well. and much happier for it.

[Scootaloo]

37. It's great, isn't it?

I actually quit television because of commercials; Nowadays the only "television" that I watch are interesting series that I can pick up via Hulu or Netflix, or sometimes clips of like the Daily Show or something.

And I don't miss it at all. Six years with no TV and it's like "holy shit, why did I ever watch that garbage?"

[NRaleighLiberal]

46. Yes, it is ads - and stupid, vapid shows - that turned us away not only from TV, but movies.

We refuse to sit there and be advertised to.

We are pretty much Neflix only - or books, or gardening, walks, kayaking, music, etc...!

[Scootaloo]

48. Going through netflix...

I see a lot of the TV shows htey carry, and it just makes me go "really? REALLY?"

For instance. A science channel series, Pumpkin Chunkin'. Which is about exactly what it says it's about - building machines to hurl pumpkins long distances (it's a competition thing).

All well and good, those who enjoy the sport seem into it, more power to them. But... who's the at-home audience? Who is it sitting in their living room, following an hour-episode series about guys making giant air cannons to shoot pumpkins half a mile? For two seasons!?

At this point I can't tell if TV is creating or just marketing towards ennui. But if you can sit there and raptly watch a show about guys building a really big slingshot to launch a pumpkin into orbit... I dunno. What can I say to that?

[KurtNYC]

76. I was so blissfully happy after I turned off my TV that my aunt

thought I might be terminally ill because the state of calm and acceptance I was exhibiting was very similar to some of her patients.

It is like instant Zen -- no more celebration of false values, vapid 20-somethings kicking each other off of "reality" shows, pointless spinning, arguing and number counting on "news" shows.

I think the statistic about watching "Fox news makes you less informed" is true even if you sit there disagreeing with it all. Even if you shout back at the TV screen you are less informed than if you had not watched because your mind is filled with their issue frames and you got into a state of reacting to BS -- and that it is not the same as being informed.

TV off. Internet on.

[joelz]

8. NBC,ABC,CBS,and Fox News

four steaming corporate turds I'd rather poke my eyes out than waste my time with them there are lots of good news sources I like http://www.democracynow.org/ I'm sure others folks are finding sources that are worthwhile.

[freshwest]

9. The 'news' is nothing but a corporate commercial. Don't be fooled, that's all it is.

A lot of it is not even recent, they hold on to the stories until a sponsor, not the real commercials between the shows, but those who are associated with the station owner want it released. It's then put on as if there is need for something, then the talking heads blabber ideology to justify it, in a very large context. And manufacture consent for politicians to use as cover when they do something to profit these guys or hurt the commons. It's all the same money they are going after.

[FourScore]

72. Bingo! n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. I'm not giving up Rachel

[libinnyandia]

26. And Martin and Lawrence

[AlbertCat]

80. Rachel, Martin & Lawrence call all be watched...

..... on your PC... any time you want.... for free....

[Baitball Blogger]

11. This is why I like zombie movies.

[Beartracks]

15. LOL n/t

[obxhead]

34. Better sources of info in most cases.

[Motown_Johnny]

12. That chart is about the sunday talk shows, not cable.

[hfojvt]

13. NBC, CBS and ABC

are NOT cable.

I may even be able to get some FoxNews over the air on Fox4 if I ever watched it. (Okay, I confess, I did watch some episodes of Bones, but that is it (and sometimes Sanford and Son or All in the Family on 4.2 (Fox is 4.1))

[MADem]

14. Steve, great find--a good argument for watching cartoons with the rug-rats! nt

[longship]

16. Why no CNN? MSNBC?

It very much looks like cherry-picked data.

Of course, the fact that these four are so skewed is part of the point of the chart. I was just playing devil's advocate here because you know damned well that the Repugs will ask those very questions and respond with that conclusion.

[progress2k12nbynd]

17. I guess I don't see a reason to gasp...

It was primary season but only for the Republicans, and primaries are generally held early in the week (which is why Sundays make sense for these interviews). I don't see a vast conspiracy here if u look at it logically.

I bet if u looked at Feb-June 2004 you'd see the same #'s of white males, but they'd be 70% Democratic. 2008 would have been slightly less white and male obviously, but I'd bet the D/R split was pretty even.

Except on Fox News of course.

[spanone]

19. doubt that very much.

[Hissyspit]

20. Actually this is a consistent trend for decades.

And primary season is absolutely no excuse. Elections affect EVERY American.

[tonybgood]

86. The more Republicans speak, the deeper they bury their party!!!

Anyone who believes that the talking heads are providing "news" is just fooling themselves. As for all the Republican guests, they have neither a plan nor a hope of retaking the White House. All they can hope for is another 4 years of obstructionism.

[progress2k12nbynd]

94. I think we can all agree on that…nt

[spanone]

18. this where much of america gets their 'serious' news from...

we're screwn

if the media leans they can take the country right with 'em....24/7

[Turbineguy]

22. This chart is obviously

a librul conspiracy!

[jillan]

23. I used to have all of them - even faux - set up on my dvr. Not anymore. And now my

Sundays are alot more enjoyable!

[TeamPooka]

25. It's "news" for profit

so they will say anything you pay them to as long as the check clears.

[Flatpicker]

27. I don't

Watch the cable news anymore with the exception of TRMS.

[ErikJ]

28. Better title: Meet the "LIBERAL MEDIA" !!

This shatters the RW propaganda villifying the "Liberal Media".

[progressoid]

47. Unfortunately, RW propaganda and RWers in general aren't interested in facts

[Curmudgeoness]

50. Agree with your title. WTF.

And still they are using that term endlessly. How do you fight ignorance when you can't educate them with a two-by-four.

[Omaha Steve]

53. The title came from the email I received from Move On

Left the title alone, even though it isn't correct.

OS

[Flatulo]

29. Netflix.

[nanabugg]

31. I have stopped watching even Rachel. I just don't even want to hear what the RW is saying.

Started reading more and watching documentaries on Netflix and other less mainstream documentaries. One can learn a lot by reading but you have to be careful about what you read also. I also started teaching my grand "critical thinking" processes and logic. It's a lot of fun. They are smart and really catch on. ( 6 and 7..girls). They have learned to question everything and how to ask really good questions. I am proud to be a part of raising thinking people. And it is never to early to start!

[Mosaic]

87. I stopped her for the same reason

As well as her ugly attitude toward Latinos. Latinos are treated horribly by all media in this country. The xenophobia is deep, and sadly on both sides. The racist, sexist, media is truly un-American, except for a handful of moments of clarity. The internet is where all human communications should take place, now in the 21st century we should throw the rotten tv and cable into the ash heap of history.

[stillwaiting]

32. And the "Democrats" are Harold Ford, Joe Lieberman, and so on....

TV news is the most transparent propaganda outlet.

ALL stations.

A few hours of liberal perspective on MSNBC does not make it a liberal news outfit. In addition to right wing TV in the morning hours, I found their late morning and afternoon coverage to be more of the same corporate bullshit.

Democracy Now, Current TV, Al Jazeera (though they have gotten much worse over the last year or two), and RT are places to get some very, very important news that our media always seems to not think is very important. When, in fact, it is the most important information to get to understand exactly what's been happening in the U.S.

There is no left perspective on corporate TV news. The fact that right wingers think it is a "liberal media" painfully illustrates just how brainwashed they are by empire's propaganda.

[agent46]

33. Staying informed

and avoiding the mind scramble of 24/7 propaganda is a process of increasing self-isolation these days.

[Initech]

36. What is this liberal media they speak of? Does it exist?

[Swede Atlanta]

38. Read the details closely.....

(1) These relate to the Sunday morning "news" shows
(2) These statistics relate to network shows

Now, I doubt that if you took the entire universe of so-called "news" shows including the 24 x 7 news channels on a 24 x 7 basis we wouldn't find the same stark facts but let's take the facts as they are presented.

I'll bet, however, that all those white men will claim they are Christians but their butts aren't sitting in a pew somewhere but rather spouting lies on broadcast media. I'll bet God isn't very happy with them. I'll bet She is really pissed.

[JonLP24]

63. +1

[Bluenorthwest]

39. None of those are cable outlets, they are the 4 networks. Also, none of those are news shows

they are panel discussion shows, commentary. The most popular is MTP which is sinking in the ratings and gets less than 2.5 million viewers, fewer than 700,000 in the 24-54 'prime demographic'. So if you add up all of the Sunday Chatter audiences of all the Networks and assume zero cross over they reach maybe 2% of the people each week most of them aged or too young to vote. Just for perspective.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

41. This chart isn't for cable news. It's for Sunday Talk

We already knew that was biased for Conservatives.

The standard formula on Sunday Talk is to have three conservatives and a conservative host pretending to be neutral and one liberal or conservative Democrat referred to as a Liberal. The conservatives all get to spew their latest talking points uninterrupted, define the liberal positions to sound like they're silly and interrupt the actual liberal to make sure the clock runs out with dismissive rhetoric.

If they have a member of the Obama administration on it's only as a quick guest by video feed. They'll spew out a bunch of ginned up charges, put on the official to answer for those charges and nothing else and then politely say goodbye and then go back to their panel to mock their response.

What I thought was funny was one episode of Meet The Press where it was LITERALLY "Meet The Press" as they only put on conservative people in the press and the question of the day was a poll showing people were sick of their being stenographers for Bush talking points and after their roundtable they all agreed they were tough on Bush. Then they moved on to spew the latest lies out of the White House as if they were fact.

As far as I'm concerned, everyone who said, "Iraq is the central front of the war on terror" should be kicked off the air.

This sums it up nicely:

[Alcibiades]

62. Nice clip

In response to something by Breitbart, someone I am glad we don't have to kick around anymore.

[daaron]

42. Gawd - who's watching this crap, anyway?!?!

My guess is the viewership shares the guests' demographic makeup.

[hatrack]

54. Surfing this morning, caught the panel for This Weak . . .

Since it included George Will and Peggy Noonan, I figured my time would be far better spent out on the deck brushing my Dad's cat, which I then proceeded to do.

[daaron]

56. I think it was Peorge Nill and Geggy Woonan. You didn't miss anything.

Hope your Dad's cat enjoyed the brushing.

I like cats. Do you?

[lunasun]

43. If I watch anything it is Beyond The Beltway or McLaughlin group

Neither are everyone's cup of tea.... just my 2 cents for weekend political shows

[whatchamacallit]

44. Um, Duh!

But thanks for the chart, most people have only a vague awareness of stacked the deck is.

[YOHABLO]

45. And Here Are The Facts

Progressives know the facts ..

Fact: Comcast owns NBC, Telemundo, E Entertainment, Versus, 14 television stations, Universal Pictures, and Hulu. Disney holdings include 10 television stations, 277 radio stations, ABC, ESPN, A&E, the History Channel, Lifetime, Discover magazine, Bassmaster magazine, Hyperion publishing, Touchstone Pictures, Pixar Animation, and Miramax Film Corp. Viacom owns 10 television stations, The Movie Channel, Comedy Central, BET, Nickelodeon, TV Land, MTV, VH1, and Paramount Pictures. CBS owns 30 TV stations, Smithsonian Channel, Showtime, The Movie Channel and Paramount Network Television. News Corp. owns 27 television stations, the Fox Network and Fox News Channel, FX, National Geographic Channel, The Wall Street Journal, TV Guide, the New York Post, DirecTV, the publisher HarperCollins, film production company Twentieth Century Fox and the social networking website MySpace. Time Warner owns HBO, CNN, the Cartoon Network, Warner Bros. Time magazine, Turner Broadcasting and DC Comics.

Currently, six major companies control most of the media in our country. The FCC could decide to relax media ownership rules, which would allow further consolidation and put decisions about what kinds of programming and news Americans receive in even fewer hands.

FACT: Comcast owns NBC; Disney owns ABC; and News Corporation owns Fox Broadcasting Company.

Quite frankly I don't know how some of the talking heads on MSNBC get away with what they do, simply because they never go after their parent company's monopoly on the industry .. it's Comcast's way of pretending that MSNBC makes it all "fair and balanced" .. yeah, right.

Morning Joe, with Scarborough makes me want to puke. Mika Brzezinski, their token Democrat (?) hardly gets a word in edgewise licking Scarborough's ass at every given moment.

Other than MSNBC, you have to pay extra to get Current, or Bill Maher's show. There's no hope.

[xiamiam]

51. democracy now and rt..only news channels worth watching ..and sometimes the real news ..

the rest is nonsense...and I can tell who watches by the things they say and believe

[Lex]

55. NBC, CBS, and ABC *aren't* cable news.

And course Fox News is full of Republicans.

[Aerows]

57. More and more

I'm convinced that watching TV makes you dumb.

[AsahinaKimi]

58. This is not surprising

Considering that corporations own the media. As a Democratic Woman Minority, I refuse to watch TV anyway. I use the internet.. Haven't had a TV now for over ten years!

[Crowman1979]

59. Dear god those Sunday morning political shows are BOOOOOOOORING!

And people think NPR is a snoozefest.

[ashling]

60. And right below the graphic:(Want some real news? Try Amy Goodman’s Democracy Now, a must-see indepe

dent news program that we love!)

This information appears just below the pie graphs.

Gee, where would I find that?

CABLE T.V., that's where

[Bette Noir]

65. Has no one noticed the flaw in the concept?

The chart is about the broadcast networks. The headline talks about cable news. They're not the same thing, people.

[NoMoreWarNow]

68. and how many of those white Republican dudes are John McCain?

he is ALWAYS on

[RitchieRich]

70. Thomas Jefferson's thoughts on this issue:

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.

[sinkingfeeling]

73. I don't watch it.

[Ninga]

78. Please tell me who will care about this outrage, besides you and me?

And that is the core of the problem, isn't it? It is exactly this type of programming that caters to the numb and dumb who sometimes vote or not.

It is disgusting and we stopped watching network Sunday AM programing almost 2 years ago. Now I need to ween myself off of cable.

[KansDem]

79. Canceled cable in 1996

We have a rather impressive collection of classic movies on DVD.

Oh, and we also check out DVDs from the public library...

[RufusTFirefly]

82. It's even worse than it looks

... given the current understanding of what a Democrat is.

[Jankyn]

85. MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry...

Lots of women, lots of people of color, and lots of really, really intelligent and nuanced discussion of the issues.

Plus, #nerdland.

[YOHABLO]

93. Molly We Need You Now!

Wouldn't it be wonderful to read what Molly would have to say about this mess the Republican's have created ... They are not a party, they're a cult

[cr8tvlde]

88. No tv ... plenty of news online and here at DU

I relish the shock on the faces of the cable guys when they come out for my internet and phone ... no tv????

[LiberalLovinLug]

89. this is why Net Neutrality is the greatest fight of our generation

The internet rushed into massive popularity much sooner than the elite robber barons had anticipated. Now they are scrambing to get the whole thing under their control, so they can transform it much the same way they have to television where THEY decide what messages get fed to the masses.. Already we see comercialization running rampant. But this is nothing. Soon they will be able to slow down connection speeds to sites like Democratic Underground, and speed up access to sites like FOX News. Eventually the average apolitical viewer will migrate to sites that are easy to get on to.

If a Rethug gets in, its one of the first things they will tackle.

[RebelOne]

90. I have cable but I usually only watch my local news channels. n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

91. I watch a little bit of MSNBC, Current, RT, BBC & Al Jazeera.

I haven't watched a Sunday interview show in at least 15 years.

[AnneD]

92. Are you sure this is about the News....

Because it sure looks like the makeup of the Senate Committee on Women's Health.