Amen

[kpete]

[Wounded Bear]

1. Big K & R!!!!

This something I love to say to fundies of any political stripe.

Without freedom from religion, there is no freedom of religion.

[freshwest]

2. Perfect. And his words described it well. So much for the fundie hysteria.

[madashelltoo]

3. How many brain cells do you need

to process a simple message like that? Live and let live.

[Voice for Peace]

31. Live and let live is well and good

as long as nobody
offends me in any way;
for if I'm offended and disturbed,
unsettled and unhappy,
nervous and uncomfortable,
fearful and bewildered,
angry and outraged,
it's certainly not my fault, but theirs
for having so affected me.

People just want to feel happy and safe, but their
operating system software is very messed up.

It's not a matter of insufficient brain cells, but
that the cells are in the wrong arrangement,
working at cross-purpose to the host organism.

The upside is such people tend to go extinct, eventually.

When a brain/mind is turned against its own host:
- directing it to eat shit food
- directing it to hate and cheat and lie
- directing it to be cruel, and to hate
- directing it not to care about life
- directing it to ingest poisons daily
- directing it to ignore its innate instincts and conscience
- directing it to believe in Fear, and disdain wisdom
it tends to kill it off; and both mind and body die.

The offspring are also unhealthy, naturally, and don't
reproduce well. They are poisoning themselves to death,
body and mind.

At this point, human survival in large part may depend on
love, joy, peace, and organic food. The effect of those things
on the body and mind.

Evolution may take care of many of today's evils... I'm hopeful.

[abelenkpe]

4. K&R nt

[SalviaBlue]

5. K&r

[annabanana]

6. This is exactly the right response to EVERY brand of fundamentalism.

Your right to punch stops at my nose!

[jwirr]

7. Great.

[treestar]

8. K&R

That's exactly what they are trying to do. Force others to live by their rules. Then to twist to claim it is violating their rights - just sickening.

[sarge43]

9. Nailed it. Thank you, Mr President. n/t

[OKNancy]

10. great quote, but I don't think he ever said this

I can't find a citation anywhere.

More looking. this has been around a while... and if he ever said this, it would be all over the news, not just on facebook and tumblr.

[DLevine]

11. K&R. n/t

[tawadi]

12. Oh I like this

[zeemike]

13. Well Hallelujah and praise the lord.

Someone is finally saying it...'
It is time to make the Christian right live up to their own standards laid out by the man they call God.
And what we need is some progressive preachers to get on the TV and educate people just what those standards are and how far away the right wing is from them.

[GoCubsGo]

14. That cannot be said often enough.

Even if the ears that need to hear it the most are deaf to it.

[Auntie Bush]

15. Just what I've always said/felt EVERY time I hear pro-lifers complain

about abortion. FINE, you don't like it...don't do it...but keep the hell out of MY business, MY life and MY body/vagina and my health care.

I love Obama!

[Jake2413]

16. Say it loud and often!!!

[kentuck]

17. A great quote!

One of his best!

[JDPriestly]

18. I wonder what the Pope thinks about the way some Muslim men

treat women?

The Muslim men who abuse women would say they are exercising their religious freedom.

Does religious freedom justify depriving women of their freedom?

[Raster]

21. You mean the Pope that worked so dilligently to hide evidence of priests abusing children?

That Pope? Probably sees nothing wrong with the abuse.

[jillan]

25. The Pope who just hired a Faux news "reporter" to gain control of their messaging?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/24/pope-fox-news-reporter?newsfeed=true

[elleng]

26. What the POPE thinks about

the way SOME MUSLIM men treat women?

[JDPriestly]

42. The Pope would probably say, "But that is different. After all, they are Muslim."

But I wonder just how he would rationalize his bad treatment of women.

[elleng]

46. Probably wouldn't say that, imo,

but also CAN'T rationalize his bad treatment.

[BumRushDaShow]

19. K&R

[Raster]

20. And another rousing AMEN! This is more than our line in the sand.

[AsahinaKimi]

22. what he said!

[felix_numinous]

23. The ERA needs to be passed

--and saying so would most likely create another landslide election for President Obama.

[handmade34]

24. love this quote, but...

I don't think he said it... any links??

[Enrique]

27. sounds more like Bill Maher

I think the pictures must have gotten mixed up. "If you don't like birth control, don't use it". Not very Obama-like.

[Raster]

28. Actually, I think it's very Obama-like. And quite logical.

If you don't approve of birth control -- and abortion, for that matter -- than don't use them or have them, if your religious convictions so dictate. Just don't dictate your religious convictions to others.

Yes, very Obama-like.

And I must say, as a Gay man, I am very pleased that Obama has been able to re-examine his own personal religious convictions and come to realize that his own personal religious convictions are just that: his own. I applaud his reappraisal of same-sex marriage.

And I applaud his statements quoted in the original post. Yes, VERY Obama-like.

[Blanks]

29. My 'googling' didn't turn up where he had said it either.

In fact I found where other people were saying that he didn't say it.

It's good though; I like it.

[patrice]

30. ... and if you think it does, then that means your beliefs have no validity, because, apparently,

they require support from numbers.

"Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe." John 20:29

[iandhr]

32. Sock it to em

[Stuart G]

33. K and R nt. thanks for posting

[Lex]

34. Same logic also applies to gays and lesbians' basic rights.

Such as marriage.

[bupkus]

35. That's right

I can't stand it when the "religious" complain about being forced to go against their beliefs while they force their beliefs on others.

There should be no "religious" tax exemption either, IMHO.

[lunatica]

36. Oh Hell Yes!

Tee-hee! You said Amen and I said Hell...

snicker

[BEAU1943]

37. Would Jesus vote for this man?

[Skittles]

38. great quote but

I doubt it came from Obama

edit - I don't mean to imply he doesn't feel that way; I just doubt he said it - I would have seen the foaming from the mouth sanctimonious rightwing whackjobs yakking about it

[chollybocker]

40. I'm *doubtful*, too.

I don't recall Obama ever saying this. If he did, then I just woke from a three-month nap, and merely dreamt that there were flocks of nuns on buses, and the Kings won the Cup. But that would be crazy.

[StevieM]

39. This should make us all very proud of our president (eom)

[Flying Squirrel]

41. Rec withdrawn...

Last edited Mon Jun 25, 2012, 03:12 AM - Edit history (1)

ETA: I agree 100% with this statement, however after doing some research it has become apparent that the statement has been falsely attributed to President Obama. I cannot support this OP as a result, as I do not wish to see anything demonstrably false posted as being true on DU - in particular a quote being assigned to a person who did not actually say it. Therefore I am withdrawing my rec.

[Enrique]

43. "we're not trying to win an argument, we're trying to implement a policy"

In my opinion, the way Obama actually handled the issue worked out fine. As I understand it, women are covered identically as they were under the original policy.

So why the need to rewrite history, especially since the actual Obama approach was very characteristic of him?

http://www.usatoday.com/NEWS/usaedition/2012-02-09-Contraceptive-debateRECOVERED-Wed-Feb--8-163722-2012-_ST_U.htm

"We are very sensitive and understand some of the concerns that have been expressed," White House press secretary Jay Carney said. "The president takes those concerns very seriously."

Carney said Obama remains "very aware of and engaged in this issue" as the administration seeks to allay the concerns expressed by religious institutions. "We're not trying to win an argument here," he said. "We're trying to implement a policy that will affect millions of women."

[spanone]

44. k&r...

[coalition_unwilling]

45. Kpete, this looks to be an apocryphal statement. Can you

please provide a link that authenticates it as Obama's words?