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Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 06:27 PM Jan 2017

Why the RW hates Gloria Allred

She's received come criticism from the left, but she is downright despised by the RW. I think I know why.

Her visibility has made her both prized and disdained by the media, whose attention she so visibly courts, which has cast her as everyone from a latter-day Joan of Arc to a "Tabloid Feminist." When I asked Allred what she makes of the media's derision, she was dismissive: "I don't really care how I'm perceived. Frankly, Scarlett, I don't give a damn. I just want justice for women. I have to be a strong advocate, and all I care about is winning for my clients."

"My view is that women are hurt more than men," she said. "That men, because they have more access to power and wealth, are more likely to use it to hurt women." Both might lie to each other, but "I think it's definitely more devastating to women, emotionally and financially. Women are socialized from birth to believe in men, to believe men will protect them." If she saw any dissonance between the deprivation that had motivated the suffragettes and the situation that faced Blitsch and Ryncarz, Allred wasn't showing it. "I'm never satisfied with the status and condition of women. Why would I be?"
Full article The Avenger http://www.elle.com/fashion/a12537/gloria-allred-the-avenger/

If today it sometimes seems as though Ms. Allred is living in the nascent feminism of the 1970s, so, in a way, are many of her firm’s less visible clients: women (and men) who have been sexually harassed or fondled at work, girls who’ve been molested, or female prison inmates forced to wear handcuffs while delivering their babies. Those who support Ms. Allred argue that cases like those of Ms. Lorenzana and Citibank fit into this galaxy — but with tabloid glare, notoriety and guaranteed publicity thrown into the mix.

Thane Rosenbaum, a novelist and law professor at Fordham University, sees Ms. Allred as what he calls “a moral attorney,” which he defines as someone who takes on a case without any thought for her own reputation or even whether she’s going to win or lose in the courtroom.

“She represents people who we might not want to go to lunch with,” Mr. Rosenbaum said, “and she ruffles the feathers of people who think lawyers should confine themselves to the courtroom. She takes on issues that are too messy for the courtroom. Some people think it’s salacious, what she’s bringing into the public square. She’s in effect saying: ‘I move the ball out of this arena and take it into this arena. Being a quiet, demure woman will get this case nowhere.’ ”

“These women have no money, no power. There are very serious consequences when women are not empowered. Humiliation, depression, poverty.”

She put on her do-not-mess-with-me face. “It is very frightening to feel alone when you are standing against a rich and powerful person and all his attendant helpers,” she said. “It’s dangerous out there.” It’s the Wild West. People come to me to tell them how to manage the maelstrom. And the defense” — here she allows herself a little smile — “the defense just hopes the woman doesn’t hire Gloria Allred.”

“The concept of fairness is always culturally defined,” she said. “Even here, where we think we are such an advanced nation, people advise women to grin and bear harassment in the workplace. I say, ‘Do complain.’ It’s only going to get worse. We have rights so that we don’t have to go like beggars with cups in our hands asking for mercy. We have to be heard in the court of public opinion as well as in the actual courts. Silence is the enemy.”
Full article: The Avenger (same title, different article) by Laurie Winer
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Why the RW hates Gloria Allred (Original Post) Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 OP
Silence is our enemy. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #1
True. When it comes to abuse of women or abuse of political power.... CousinIT Jan 2017 #2
Yep, misogynists would really like for women to STFU. Especially abused women. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #6
imho, the power of the peepee tape is mopinko Jan 2017 #3
Bingo, mopinko. Bingo. roamer65 Jan 2017 #5
I can't blame anyone for the jokes. It's too much of a Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #7
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #4
Translation: The RW hates Gloria Allred because meow2u3 Jan 2017 #8
Exactly! Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #12
because she doesnt "stay in her place". JI7 Jan 2017 #9
The RW has a place for everyone. They're actually pro-choice. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #13
... someoneeelse Jan 2017 #10
Not all lawyers, though, right? Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #14
Gloria Allred challenges the accepted, standard practices of life in the RW world. democrank Jan 2017 #11
Me too. We could use more like her. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #15
 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
1. Silence is our enemy.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 06:41 PM
Jan 2017

That's how I feel about the election. Not talking about it will only enable it to happen again.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
6. Yep, misogynists would really like for women to STFU. Especially abused women.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 08:00 PM
Jan 2017

And often that's easier. Allred is trying to make less difficult for women to speak up and seek justice.

mopinko

(70,178 posts)
3. imho, the power of the peepee tape is
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 07:28 PM
Jan 2017

that it will show that jane doe's allegations are credible.
this is more than peepee. he hurt those girls. i dont doubt it. and they were girls, too. underage girls. bet on it.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
7. I can't blame anyone for the jokes. It's too much of a
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 08:18 PM
Jan 2017

(sorry) golden opportunity. But, I hope it doesn't distract any of us from taking the sexual misconduct allegations against DT seriously.

meow2u3

(24,767 posts)
8. Translation: The RW hates Gloria Allred because
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 09:33 PM
Jan 2017

She takes zero shit from rich, powerful, predatory men out to humiliate women.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
13. The RW has a place for everyone. They're actually pro-choice.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 10:07 PM
Jan 2017

Women: kitchen or bedroom
Minorities: ghetto or prison
LGBTQIA: a public restroom you're not comfortable with or Hell

It's nice to have options.

 

someoneeelse

(19 posts)
10. ...
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 09:37 PM
Jan 2017

They hate lawyers.

If you are a mega millionaire responsible for poisoning 1000's of people, why should a lawyer be able to sue you? How can they protect their own wealth without protecting themselves.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
14. Not all lawyers, though, right?
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 10:26 PM
Jan 2017

They love the ones who make sure they get away with murder, both literally and figuratively.

democrank

(11,098 posts)
11. Gloria Allred challenges the accepted, standard practices of life in the RW world.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 09:40 PM
Jan 2017

I respect that Allred is fearless, courageous, outspoken....a person who goes to bat for many women who are up against a lot of powerful "she probably asked for it" men.

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