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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKarla Homolka lives in Guadeloupe and has three children, new book reveals
Tanned, slimmer but still wary of strangers, Karla Homolka now has three children and lives in Guadeloupe under the name Leanne Bordelais, says a new book by journalist Paula Todd, who met the notorious former convict at her new home.
The book is the first confirmation of previous, sketchier news reports that Ms. Homolka married her lawyers brother, gave birth and moved to the French Caribbean island to escape public scrutiny.
She had lived in Quebec following her 2005 release from a 12-year sentence for her role in the lurid sex killings of two Ontario schoolgirls and the drug-induced death of her sister Tammy.
Ms. Todd wrote that she found Ms. Homolka in a small apartment with her new spouse, Thierry Bordelais, and their three small children, a girl and two boys.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/karla-homolka-lives-in-guadeloupe-and-has-three-children-new-book-reveals/article4360378/
mainer
(12,022 posts)What a monster.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)And is trying to live a normal life. But the press simply won't leave her in peace.
Perhaps they should stop hounding a woman who has paid her debt to society. Or does the Canadian press track down every single person that serves their sentence?
unreadierLizard
(475 posts)and helped Paul Bernardo rape and murder other girls means to me, she should die. But since we have no death penalty, she should be in jail for the rest of her days.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)But the fact of the matter is that a court found her guilty, sentenced her to jail for the amount of time it thought just, and she served her sentence in full. She paid her debt to society. No matter what you think, or what I think, she doesn't deserved to be hounded for the rest of her life, never being able to live in peace. Doing so isn't justice, but just another form of vigilantism.
Swede
(33,270 posts)The Crown made a deal with the devil,a devil that does not deserve peace.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)The fact of the matter is that she paid her debt, and she doesn't deserve to be hounded by the press for the rest of her life.
Let me guess, you're one of those people who think that anybody convicted of a sex offense should only be allowed to live under an overpass out in the middle of nowhere.
unreadierLizard
(475 posts)They should be sterilized to start, and placed under heavy restrictions.
They show no mercy to their victims, why should society show them any mercy?
MadHound
(34,179 posts)Glad you're not on the bench.
unreadierLizard
(475 posts)I'm talking about hard-core sex offenders like Sandusky and the like. Persons who have beyond a reasonable doubt been proven guilty.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)"They should be sterilized to start, and placed under heavy restrictions." in reference to sex offenders. No initial differentiation between "hard core" or other sex offenders, not initially.
So, now that you're backpedaling and trying to establish a line of demarcation, where is that line? Would you allow for the fact there are indeed some sex offenders who have changed, or would this be another blanket rule of yours?
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Swede
(33,270 posts)nt
MadHound
(34,179 posts)She paid her debt and has a right to her privacy just like you and I.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)You seem to have a problem with other people having opinions.
Boxcar Willie
(75 posts)to have problem with justice system? Please address that. Justice served > anybody's opinion
pennylane100
(3,425 posts)if the sex offense involved children and violence.
unreadierLizard
(475 posts)Except she lied about her role to get a deal, then Paul Bernardo spilled the beans on her and revealed everything.
I would have revoked her deal right there, but for some stupid reason the Crown didn't.
I'll just say this - I won't shed any tears if anything happens to Karla.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)In the eyes of a court of law, she got the sentence she deserved, justice was served, and she has paid her debt. Whatever else you think, that is where she stands in the eyes of the law. Are you putting yourself above the law? If so, you are no better than she or any other murderer.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)You: "Every act by every court in the world has been utterly flawless and just, because it had the clerk's stamp on it."
PATHETIC.
treestar
(82,383 posts)The fact is that she did not.
We can have our opinions about cases, but the system decides.
Swede
(33,270 posts)She tortured then murdered children,the deal was not justice.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Some people never get caught.
A tape showing her as the killer - there was really evidence that clear?
Swede
(33,270 posts)Miscarriage of justice.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)She had already made her deal and put it all on Bernardo. Then, tapes was found that literally showed Ms. Homolko intimately involved in the killings. But that was after all the deals had been worked out and they were not retractable, as I recall.
The difference between the clear evidence of Ms. Homolka being a cold-blooded torture-killer and the way she portrayed herself to get her deal is what is at issue. Had the Crown or anybody had access to those tapes prior to dealing with Ms. Homolka, she would be essentially locked under the prison like Mr. Bernardo.
rocktivity
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And they wouldn't even have found the tape if Bernardo hadn't told them where it was.
If the tape had turned up AFTER the trial, I'd say, "Double jeapoardy, rotten luck." But what the Crown should have told her is "You lied to us, we can prove it, the deal's off -- you're not leaving here until you're in a body bag!"
rockivity
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Even Denis Lortie was paroled after only 8 years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Lortie
treestar
(82,383 posts)Amazing he is out. He did worse than the guy who shot at Reagan.
Swede
(33,270 posts)3 murders under her belt,she deserves no peace.
unreadierLizard
(475 posts)he was still a rapist, but I think Karla encouraged him to start killing.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)Do you also think that other people who have paid their debt to society should be hounded by the press? After all, there are plenty of other murderers, both in the US and Canada, who paid their debt to society and are now walking the streets. Should we have the press hound them as well?
You are advocating a form a vigilante justice.
Swede
(33,270 posts)The video tape they found was of her murdering and torturing these kids,she deserves no peace.
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unreadierLizard
(475 posts)by RWers that liberals care more about criminals then they do victims.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)Be careful that you're not turning into that which you hate.
I'm not perpetuating anything except the rule of law. You are the one who is advocating vigilante justice.
unreadierLizard
(475 posts)All I am saying is that this monster should still be in jail. Justice in the eyes of ALMOST EVERYONE was not done.
She lied to get where she is. She should still be in jail.
treestar
(82,383 posts)are complaining about the system allowing criminal accused's rights to counsel, speedy trial, and that evidence obtained in violation of the law not be used against them.
Here you are simply disagreeing with the workings of a functioning system. It's like saying OJ is guilty, though he was was acquitted. We can say that, but no punishment is to be imposed on him for the murder for which he was acquitted.
This person did the time the system gave her, so it's over. You can complain it's not enough, but it was the punishment imposed by law.
Swede
(33,270 posts)I hope she never has a minutes rest.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)And frankly, under the rule of law what you think doesn't matter, but rather what the court decides. So I suggest this, go down and hassle this woman, try and not give her a moment's peace, and see just how fast you wind up in jail for trespassing and other laws pertaining to her right to privacy.
Swede
(33,270 posts)WTF dude?
These girls were murdered by Homolka,not Bernardo.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Why wouldn't he?
Swede
(33,270 posts)I don't think he will get a lighter sentence. They died while he wasn't there,but he's guilty,just the same.
treestar
(82,383 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,337 posts)Video tapes, which, if they had been available at the time of her plea bargain, might have ensured a murder conviction for her.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2010/06/16/f-bernardo-homolka-timeline.html
You repeatedly say "she has paid her debt to society" as if there is some quantifiable harm done to society that is definitively and perfectly measured by a court, and which is then undone by someone being in prison for the given length of time. That's actually a silly concept; someone who steals may be able to 'repay their debt', but rapists and murderers cannot. They harm individuals, and that cannot be undone.
The video evidence sounds enough for people to have genuine concerns that she has children of her own - her previous behaviour with her sister shows that a blood relationship wasn't enough to stop her.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Imposed by the courts. Nothing else can be done. While people are sometimes wrongly jailed, others are wrongly let go. Look at how many people are certain OJ was guilty even though he was acquitted.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Spazito
(50,404 posts)she fucking lied about her involvement in the deaths, all three of them, and it came to light when videos of the horrid abuse and murders were found, sadly, they were found only after the prosecution made a deal with her. She is as heinous a monster as her husband at the time was and he is locked up for life as a dangerous offender as she should have been.
Now that she is found again, I hope the press hound her every minute, every day so the freedom she gained through abject lies isn't freedom at all.
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russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)BUT I hope someone is keeping an eye on her and her children.
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)If your fiance confesses that he or she has the hots for your younger sister or brother, it's the fiance that you should dump.
At least the Canadians don't have to worry about her anymore.
rocktivity
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Yes she should have served more time in prison but he was the mastermind and he beat the shit out of her to get her to help him.
unreadierLizard
(475 posts)A lot of Ontarians, myself included, that she lied about all the whole "He beat me" just to make herself sound sympathetic and that she was the real mastermind behind the murders, not Bernardo.