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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 07:20 PM Jan 2017

Is anyone else concerned that the change of the National Guard leader might mean for the March?

I keep playing out this scenario in my head: Some "event," real or invented, among protestors (particularly some of the asshole anarchists - or even agent provocateurs) at the inauguration gets labled "terrorism,"and give Red Don the excuse to declare "a state of emergency."

During the night (after the balls, of course) his guy in the National Guard sets up barriers around the roads and bridges leading into DC, as they did on 9/11, preventing people from entering the city for the entire day.

Does anyone know how possible this scenario is? I know that he keeps pushing the limits on what is ethical, but what if he sees this is his opportunity for a first big show of military force, and slap "nasty" women in the face by shutting down the largest march in history, which is likely threatening to dwarf his inaugural crowd?

Wouldn't the GOP simply go along? Simply repeat the talking point that martial law was justified by events, as it was on 9/11?

All while Donald helicopters up to his penthouse in NYC, tweeting away, with his private security detail now completely "justified."

Any thoughts?

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femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. I wish people would stop with the scary scenarios.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 07:26 PM
Jan 2017

Another thread suggested that the 2700 NG members could point their rifles at the protestors. WTF?

The crowd is going to be made up almost entirely of women and children. Mothers, grandmothers, probably some great-grandmas. Unless some "outside agitators" show up on the fringes, there is not going to be "a state of emergency." It is going to be peaceful.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
6. I was surrounded by riot polices at GWB innauguration in 2001. Along with plenty of strollers.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 07:33 PM
Jan 2017

I was simply in the crowd, no sign, no buttons, just observing. In a crowd that was about a block away from the parade route.

We were detained for 45 minutes. A woman with a stroller cried and begged them to let her through, and one guy backed her up with a baton.

Also - I wasn't talking about an incident at the march - but an event at the inauguration the day before the march.




Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
11. They have already outed one attempt by O'Keefe
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 07:55 PM
Jan 2017

to set up a false flag operation for the inauguration. I doubt that was the only attempt, so I wouldn't be surprised to hear about trouble caused by republicans trying to pass themselves off as Dems.

O'Keefe is tied in to Trump. He was Trump's guest at a debate.

ms liberty

(8,587 posts)
16. Because the NG has never done that before
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 08:40 PM
Jan 2017

Oh wait, not only has it been done before, but the NG has actually shot and killed Americans, white middle class college kids, here in America.




dhol82

(9,353 posts)
5. Yes!
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 07:33 PM
Jan 2017

Sorry to all the naysayers but this just creeps me out.

All sorts of unpleasant scenarios keep playing in my head.

I am hoping that all the protesters on the 20th and all the women on the march on the 21st are safe.
Everybody keep filming.

I lived through Kent State and the 1968 democratic convention. After hearing about the dismissal of the head of the National Guard, I have really bad feelings.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
12. I remember Kent State, and we can't discount
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 07:57 PM
Jan 2017

the possibility of a false flag op. See my reply #11 above.

Girard442

(6,081 posts)
9. Think of Trump as the new evil boss...
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 07:48 PM
Jan 2017

...who cans a couple of people on day one for no obvious reason. Does he have a secret plan? Or does he just like to screw people? Who can know? Either way people are scared of him.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
15. Absolutely nothing will change
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 08:14 PM
Jan 2017

A successor hasn't been named and even if one had that person wouldn't be sworn in immediately. All that will happen is that the deputy commander will take over.

On top of that all the NG personnel assigned to work the inauguration will be under the command of the DHS and the other civilian led Federal agencies in charge of security, so the head of the D.C. NG does not have an actual command role in the operation:

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
18. My thought is that after the nomination is when Drumpf might call out the NG
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 10:31 PM
Jan 2017

to "secure the area" the following day.



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