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Thom Hartmann reports Penthouse Magazine offering a million dollars for the tape (Original Post) jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 OP
More reliable sources have already talked about WhiteTara Jan 2017 #1
Yeah, I Wonder about that too!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #2
I really don't wonder WhiteTara Jan 2017 #4
That, is "very" telling! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #10
Isn't it? I think that the alt left WhiteTara Jan 2017 #14
The alt left. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #24
The ones who think Stein, Assange and Russia WhiteTara Jan 2017 #25
So. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #37
If only WhiteTara Jan 2017 #40
I started listening to him again get the red out Jan 2017 #26
I don't listen to him ever WhiteTara Jan 2017 #27
Disregard of evidence of Russian ties get the red out Jan 2017 #28
I wonder why he posts here instead of WhiteTara Jan 2017 #30
Maybe get the red out Jan 2017 #38
Well, he seems to have WhiteTara Jan 2017 #41
Can you link to those reliable sources claiming it is Flint's offer? demmiblue Jan 2017 #6
I think it's actually both, but I don't have a link. eShirl Jan 2017 #7
Both claim the same thing? Three people saying they have the tapes? demmiblue Jan 2017 #9
Hey, Demmiblue WhiteTara Jan 2017 #15
. demmiblue Jan 2017 #18
I have trouble with IBT WhiteTara Jan 2017 #19
RawStory mainly repackages stories printed by other news sources. demmiblue Jan 2017 #21
It would clearly be a big embarassment for Trump, but it's more important to my mind Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #33
Quick google search...here you go WhiteTara Jan 2017 #13
I don't see this in any of the links you posted: demmiblue Jan 2017 #17
+1 BadgerMom Jan 2017 #16
Penthouse themselves made the offer, so Hartmann is neither here nor there. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #29
This wasn't my OP WhiteTara Jan 2017 #34
Other, better sources seem to be talking about it, anyway. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #35
I think it would be a bigly deal! WhiteTara Jan 2017 #42
Penthouse may have proof of Trump's 'golden shower' tryst at Moscow hotel DonViejo Jan 2017 #36
Here's what Wikipedia says WhiteTara Jan 2017 #43
Has this been vetted by Putin's RT editors? baldguy Jan 2017 #3
Nope. WhiteTara Jan 2017 #5
I'll kick in 15 bucks! Who's with me?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #8
It would be nice if it was done before the 20th still_one Jan 2017 #11
Thom Hartmann can get his pal putin to release the tapes stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jan 2017 #20
Penthouse, not Larry Flynt (of Hustler fame). n/t demmiblue Jan 2017 #22
aw sorry Skittles Jan 2017 #23
Penthouse puts up $ to get Trump evidence, while Gail Dines helps write the GOP Platform Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #31
i wish i had a copy. i'd sell it for sure trueblue2007 Jan 2017 #32
Has Thom quit sleeping with RT yet? KnR anyway Hekate Jan 2017 #39
I don't get why you think Thom is the enemy jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 #44

WhiteTara

(29,719 posts)
1. More reliable sources have already talked about
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jan 2017

Larry Flynt's offer and I understand he has 3 sources who say they have a tape. We'll see.

I don't think Hartmann is credible since he is paid by RT for his program. I think he is a Russian shill and should be shunned.

WhiteTara

(29,719 posts)
4. I really don't wonder
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 03:23 PM
Jan 2017

I'm convinced. I have asked him repeatedly, both in response to his posts and in a PM why he doesn't move to FSTV or Link and all I get is crickets.

WhiteTara

(29,719 posts)
14. Isn't it? I think that the alt left
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 03:58 PM
Jan 2017

has been bamboozled and we are all going to suffer. We knew the alt right was crazy, but as a friend of mine said not long ago, it will be the end when the arc doesn't swing back, but goes over the top.

get the red out

(13,467 posts)
28. Disregard of evidence of Russian ties
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 06:13 PM
Jan 2017

As well as disdain for any liberal who bought into these "unsubstantiated" claims.

WhiteTara

(29,719 posts)
30. I wonder why he posts here instead of
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 06:16 PM
Jan 2017

JackAssRadicals. They eat up all his words and reliably spew them back out.

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
6. Can you link to those reliable sources claiming it is Flint's offer?
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 03:24 PM
Jan 2017

I thought it was Penthouse's offer.

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
9. Both claim the same thing? Three people saying they have the tapes?
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 03:32 PM
Jan 2017

Hunh. I will wait to hear from WhiteTara about those reliable sources, I suppose. Reliability is important.

WhiteTara

(29,719 posts)
19. I have trouble with IBT
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:29 PM
Jan 2017

I don't know that this is a reliable news source. But RawStory has credibility to date.
Thanks for the additional links with the reward requests!

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
21. RawStory mainly repackages stories printed by other news sources.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:49 PM
Jan 2017

I have posted their stuff before, but I try to use the original source.

And, in this case, they reprinted the whole thing.

Personally, I remain skeptical until I see the hard evidence (not that I actually WANT to see it. ).

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
33. It would clearly be a big embarassment for Trump, but it's more important to my mind
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 06:19 PM
Jan 2017

because it would be direct corroboration of a whole bunch of other stuff that has been alleged.

That's the bigger deal, here, I think.

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
17. I don't see this in any of the links you posted:
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:12 PM
Jan 2017
Larry Flynt's offer and I understand he has 3 sources who say they have a tape.




P.S. I already did a quick google search before I posted.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
35. Other, better sources seem to be talking about it, anyway.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 06:21 PM
Jan 2017

If such a tape were to emerge, it would be a pretty big deal, I think.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
36. Penthouse may have proof of Trump's 'golden shower' tryst at Moscow hotel
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jan 2017
Adult magazine Penthouse has received three claims for its $1 million offer to anyone who could provide real tapes of President-elect Donald Trump’s alleged and unproven sexual escapades at the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow, the publication’s editor exclusively revealed to International Business Times Thursday.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141664072

WhiteTara

(29,719 posts)
43. Here's what Wikipedia says
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 10:20 PM
Jan 2017

about IBT

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Business_Times

Content quality

In late 2011, Google allegedly moved the outlet’s articles down in search results in response to excessive search engine optimization activity. An internal IBT memo allegedly advised IBT journalists on how to "re-work a story you’ve already done and re-post it in the hopes that it will chart better via Google... Some people have been just re-posting the exact same story, with a new headline. We're not doing that anymore."[13]

Reporting in 2014, Mother Jones claimed that IBT journalists are subject to constant demand to produce clickbait; one former employee reportedly complained that management issued "impossible" demands, including a minimum of 10,000 hits per article, and fired those who couldn't deliver. Of 432 articles published by IBT Japan in a certain time interval, 302 were reportedly created by copying sentences from Japanese media and combining them, "collage-style", to create stories that seemed new; IBT Japan apologized for the behavior and blamed it on a contract employee.[4] Similarly, employees told The Guardian in 2014 that that at times they seemed to operate more as "content farms" demanding high-volume output than a source of quality journalism. At least two journalists were allegedly threatened with firing unless traffic to their articles increased sharply.[13]

In 2016, IBT hired John Crowley, the Wall Street Journal's Europe, Middle East and Africa digital editor, as its UK editor-in-chief. Crowley stated "We are not a wire service or so-called paper of record... but I have a vision of where I want to take a site... we've got to have a USP (unique selling proposition)... make ourselves distinctive in journalistic terms."[14]

Media Matters for America, a politically progressive journalism watchdog, labeled an IBT article linking Hillary Clinton's policies to the gun used in the Sandy Hook Massacre a "false and sloppy smear" that was based on a misreading of government documents.[15] Media Matters also criticized IBT for publishing an article with the headline "Is Climate Change Real? President-Elect Donald Trump Says ‘Nobody Really Knows’ Whether The Threat Actually Exists", on the grounds that, while the article text acknowledges the scientific consensus, readers who only read the headline might be misled.[16]

In the Columbia Journalism Review, contributing editor Trudy Lieberman credited IBT's David Sirota's investigative reporting for helping to drive a call for reform in Connecticut insurance regulation.[17]
Labor relations

According to an article in Mother Jones magazine, in the early days of the International Business Times, IBT Media employed immigrant students of Olivet University to translate English into Chinese and other languages, working illegally and being paid less than minimum wage.[4]

In 2016, employees complained publicly about missed payroll, meager or nonexistent severance packages following layoffs, and one-sided nondisclosure agreements.[18][19]
Relationship to "The Community"

The connection of "The Community," a Christian sect led by a "charismatic Korean pastor named David Jang" with IBT is disputed: IBT states that many reports about connections with the Community are false or exaggerated.[4]

Co-owners Johnathan Davis and Etienne Uzac both have ties to Olivet University, an evangelical school founded by David Jang. Graduates of Olivet have been hired to work at IBT Media in many areas; IBT Media has donated money to Olivet. Davis is a former teacher of journalism at Olivet; Davis' wife is the university’s president. Uzac has been on Olivet’s board of trustees; Uzac's wife has been the press secretary for the World Evangelical Alliance, which includes Olivet as a member. Davis has personally endorsed the "ex-gay" view that homosexuality can be a result of sexually abuse as children, and can be cured by therapy to make them heterosexual. Davis states that his work is separate from his faith, and has declined to elaborate on his religious views on homosexuality, stating that it "I'm not sure how it's relevant. People believe all sorts of weird things. But from a professional capacity, it's unrelated."[13]

Christianity Today claimed in 2012 that it obtained an email in which Davis stated that he could not join a certain Jang-affiliated organization because his "commission is inherently covert". Davis denied the claim.[13] According to Business Insider, there are signs that Jang's concept of journalism involves infusing the "Gospel message" into media.[20]

What do you think?

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
8. I'll kick in 15 bucks! Who's with me?!
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 03:29 PM
Jan 2017

I know it's only one-hour's worth of Bernie's minimum wage, but it'll add up fast if we all contribute.

Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
31. Penthouse puts up $ to get Trump evidence, while Gail Dines helps write the GOP Platform
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 06:18 PM
Jan 2017

remind me again who is on our side and who isn't?

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