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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy brother voted for TRUMP because he hates feminists
I just found out. HE has yet to retire and may lose his Medicare and part of his Soc Security when he does so. HE voted for ME to lose MY Medicare when I finally can retire a few years down the road. And HE voted to have the ACA gutted and for people to DIE -- all because he hates feminists.
His HATE for feminists overrode his common sense or any sense of decency or empathy or compassion for his own mother (on Medicare) or members of his own family (me).
Much like Republican HATE for Democrats and people of color is what's driving their rabid desire to repeal "Obamacare". Had this law been passed by Republicans, they'd leave it alone. But it was passed during the admin of a BLACK DEMOCRAT so PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE for their HATE -- and for the GREED of big insurance companies and billionaires who resent its taxes and rules and who stand to make billions off of its repeal and so they don't care if people die.
HATE and GREED is what got us here.
My mother was so upset when she found out what he'd done, she choked up with tears - she's just SICK about it. I don't know what to say to her. And I don't know where that leaves myself or anyone else who needs or ever will need Medicare, healthcare, or social security.
How he could do this to his own family because he "hates feminists" is beyond me. Like my poor mother, I'm speechless and frankly, SICK.
So here we are, in a fascist dictatorship and stuck with what is likely to be the last DULY ELECTED President we'll have in my lifetime. From now on, we'll have fascist dictators running this place. The US is DONE.
My 89 year old mother will DIE knowing her own son hates her and other women that much and knowing that her beloved country is in the hands of a racist, woman-hating, corrupt, illegitimate fascist dictator who she knows will destroy it as she has known it all her life and that all her kids will have to live in the wasteland which is now the US.
Who could blame her for being choked up and SICK? I can't.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)kimbutgar
(21,168 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)In simple terms, they were not going to vote for HER AFTER 8 years of the HIM. (The black guy)
I have no sympathy for these idiots!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Especially your mother. I know it must be hard to live with a family member who admits to so much hate. The thing is, I suspect that a lot of us have family members with the same hatred. They just haven't admitted it unreservedly. If only these people knew how much hurt they caused others.
How sad that so much hate will cause so much pain for so many people.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)The only way to get these people is in the pocketbook.
I have RW crap in the family and I'm making sure they don't get one red cent of my estate.
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)Haven't seen or spoken to her in years, but I can be quite sure she's a Trumpling.
Liberal Insights
(109 posts)Such people can be vicious as well as selfish!
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)My lifetime, Union member parents have both passed, so they won't have to grieve over their son's now right-wing persuasion. My brother and I used to be close, actually friends even. We hung out together, went camping, fishing and sailing all the time. Then he discovered AM hate radio. I don't even recognize him anymore. He's angry, sullen and mean. My sister told me, "We've lost him, he's gone to the dark side". I miss the brother I once knew and loved.
I wish you and your mother well. I feel your pain.
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smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I hope you are better and that your piece of shit brother is out of your life.
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CrispyQ
(36,482 posts)She started with Limbaugh at a job that played his show in the back room. Then she took up with Fox. The dems have never done much to combat hate radio. I think even now, or maybe more so now, they disregard it & it's influence.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)We weren't really talking before that but that pretty much cinched the deal. The kicker is he was going to retire early and yep, you guessed it, pick up ACA insurance. He has two metal knees. Guess he'll be working a little longer than he planned. I had breast cancer 7 years ago. When our Dad died unexpectedly Sept 2015, I inherited our Mom. She has advanced Alzheimer's. I tried working full time and caring for her but... just couldn't manage it. I'm on COBRA for the next 5 months. Mom is on Medicare. Talk about brotherly love.
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phylny
(8,381 posts)Several years ago, before it was legal, a group of us were discussing gay marriage, and our consensus was that we felt everyone has the right to be married. The husband of a close friend of mine said he was against gay marriage (and has TWO siblings who are gay) because - wait for it - he would "have to pay more in taxes" because married people pay less than single people, and he wanted more single people (no gays marrying, you understand - then they would pay less). I kid you not
These people aren't ridiculously wealthy, but they are wealthy enough. Two homes. A huge sailboat that they pay slip fees for, not one financial worry.
He voted for Trump. I don't know who my friend voted for. She hasn't said a word but before the election, she intimated that she did not want Trump to be president.
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trixie2
(905 posts)He was raised by our, albeit alcoholic, non racist and non misogynist parents. He has two sisters and many nieces.
My heart breaks for your mother. She must feel it's all her fault. You can raise them but some do go wrong.
Is your brother married?
kimbutgar
(21,168 posts)Or does he sleep alone? If so he is a bitter repressed man who is sexually frustrated. Most guys I know who are anti feminist are bitter after being hurt by a woman or struggling with their sexuality.
CousinIT
(9,249 posts)Claims women use sex to manipulate and control and will have nothing to do w/ it.
Mother lives w/ him and cannot live on her own unfortunately. He's verbally and emotionally abusive.
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bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Ability to dominate women with their paychecks and their bullying. Delete this ignorant homophobic bullshit.
CousinIT
(9,249 posts)He thinks all women are stupid and incapable and conniving and manipulative (use sex to manipulate men in various ways) and that mean are treated SO unfairly. He's an MRA.
He didn't used to be an asshole but became one in the past 10-15 years. Went from decent Dem to woman-hating Republican. I intend to have as little to do w/ him as possible.
obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)You need to educate yourself.
Hekate
(90,737 posts)...as a psychological term.
As in my mother trying to explain to me, circa 1960-63, why this Catholic woman she knew should try to get a divorce from her husband because although they had been the best of friends as pen-pals, he was not interested in consummating the actual physical marriage after two years as man and wife. According to Mom, a former Catholic herself, the Church would grant a divorce for that reason -- but if he managed to do the deed even once, they would not.
You could rephrase it and still get the message across. Even in a day and age when many are comfortable with their sexuality, there remain some who are not comfortable at all with anything to do with sex, regardless of who they are attracted to, whether they are gay or straight. Sometimes the reasons are beyond comprehension, but our sexuality is such a big part of our makeup as humans that failure to come to terms with who we innately are vis a vis other human beings can leave one angry, bitter, and twisted.
In any case, I think the main problem with your terminology is that it has fallen into disuse and now gives offense. I just wanted to let you know that I remember when it was used as an explanation for behavior we now describe differently.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)then that's not a woman's fault and that maybe he should be a real man and learn self control.
Women aren't responsible for men's feelings and vice versa. We are in charge of ourselves.
This has been a friendly message from a 28 yr old MAN FEMINIST WHO KNOWS THE FUCKING TRUTH.
(rage screaming)
JudyM
(29,251 posts)brer cat
(24,579 posts)It must be horrid for her with him, and possibly unsafe if he is abusive.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)him again. Just because someone is a relative, does not mean they are not a POS. Your brother sounds like one sick POS. I would avoid him, he sounds dangerous.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)But he hates republicans worse than anything else.
His redeeming quality....
mercuryblues
(14,536 posts)and doesn't hide behind the "economy" excuse.
elmac
(4,642 posts)because he's an F'ing idiot.
flying-skeleton
(698 posts)Akamai
(1,779 posts)world). And especially sorry for your mother!
CousinIT
(9,249 posts)....so the Republican was his choice.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Time to move on from your brother. Let him sit in his hate filled craphole.
Initech
(100,087 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)and many other men.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)and probably a straight ticket.
Now she attends an extreme way over the top church and one that if you vote for a Democrat you are certainly going to hell.
I had Thanksgiving dinner at her house and we got on the subject of the election and she then informed me that she voted for Trump
I was shocked and I ask her why and she said because I could vote for Hillary...I had a few argumentative comments but I said .."Did your church tell you you had to vote for Trump"..didnt get an answer.
So there are many out there that will regret their vote for Trump but no way in hell will they ever admit to anyone they were wrong.
Megahurtz
(7,046 posts)Reading these replies reminds me I'm not the only one with a horrible hateful Republican Born-Again Christian older brother.
He even went as far as to finagle our now dead Mother to redo the will before she died, leaving everything to him and his awful wife. I don't even have so much as a family photo! And this was before he shortly thereafter shoved her into a care home against her desires, and I was powerless to get her out of there after she begged me to because she said she didn't realize what she signed, and my own name was conveniently left off of all paperwork (we are the only two siblings) There was even elder abuse on her by my brother and his wife reported by others to the county. She quickly got shoved into hospice when she didn't have to be, and now all I have as a memory was my Mom repeatedly telling me "I'm sorry" before she died. To top it off, my brother is a Corporate Real Estate Attorney so he planned this all along!
I can just FEEL THE HATE and it doesn't stop. Typical Republican "Strategy" the evil conniving fucks!
And my poor misguided Mother died as a Republican herself.
Republicans are not to be trusted and they also turn on each other.
To this day, I am still horrified for it all.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)Megahurtz
(7,046 posts)Yes, it certainly is inhuman.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)their livelihood from being disbarred for ethical violations even if they haven't technically broken the law. And even if not, you could give him some mighty bad online press for this.
Blue_Warrior
(135 posts)Show him that he's nothing.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)he says he hates feminists but I can assure you he is a garden-variety misognynist
CousinIT
(9,249 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)I can't tell you how disappointed i am with her.
Political_Junkie
(1,998 posts)That must be so hard for you.
Tikki
(14,559 posts)I would be curious how he defines the word....
Tikki
CousinIT
(9,249 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)It would have given them a chance to reconsider.
Maybe that's why James Comey did what he did. He didn't want that growth to occur.
So instead the haters had their hatred validated.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,865 posts)didn't reduce racism in this country. If anything, it increased it.
TNNurse
(6,928 posts)but Obama doing good things did not give the racists and narrow minded conservatives any help with reconsidering their hate.
joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)catbyte
(34,412 posts)and I feel better. Life is too goddamned short.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I remember a doctor I knew back in 2004 - I had an appointment the day after the election and he asked me about the election and he told me that he probably disagreed with Bush on almost every issue, but voted for Bush because he hates trial lawyers.
I have a friend that passed away a few years ago now that was very liberal on almost every social issue and had had health problems for years due to be grossly obese. However, he was also a gun fanatic and always voted Republican because he was afraid Democrats were going to take his guns.
and, of course, I don't need to mention abortion... or immigrating brown persons...
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)Political_Junkie
(1,998 posts)I'm so sorry for you and your mom.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)I can imagine that must be terribly difficult. Having him come out and admit his hatred for women must be especially upsetting.
I'm actually in the opposite situation. I thought my brother did a write in instead of voting for Clinton. He had been a Bernie supporter, and on Election Day, he texted me that he had written in his 6 year old sons name. I found out on Christmas that had been a joke. For months I thought he had refused to vote for a Clinton because she was a woman, when he had always voted Dem before. It was such a relief to learn I was wrong.
Boomerproud
(7,958 posts)CousinIT
(9,249 posts)The goddamned JERK is verbally abusive. She can't live alone for health and financial reasons. I'm way the f8ck across the country and she can't handle the move. He may be moving out and leaving his house to her for a while and I hope he does.
He's a royal JACKASS. I don't even want to talk to him anymore. Stupid prick.
liquid diamond
(1,917 posts)a destructive force. Hell, so called progressives hated Hillary so much that they stayed home or wrote in Bernie's name rather than protect the most vulnerable among us. I agree with your statement. This fucking country is finished.
CousinIT
(9,249 posts)And just IMO there is NO EXCUSE for any of it.
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CousinIT
(9,249 posts)My asshole brother HATES women. He's vote for a cowpie before he'd vote for ANY woman to be President. "I'm not voting for any feminism!" he said.
keithbvadu2
(36,835 posts)IronLionZion
(45,466 posts)here's the vote total:
https://www.ssa.gov/history/tally65.html
Truman and later Johnson wanted national health insurance (single payer) but Medicare/Medicaid was their compromise and the Republicans still voted against it like assholes.
If someone doesn't like socialism passed largely along party lines, he should boycott Medicare
Lanius
(599 posts)One of the reasons Rush got big in the 90s was because of his over-the-top rantings on Feminism. A lot of insecure men tuned into his show and have never looked back, it seems.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)I have long believed that relatives are in your life because of an accident of birth. Some are good, some are bad, and some are just horrible.
You don't owe blind, unwavering allegiance to bad people, just because of genetic linkage. What they deserve is a benefit of the doubt. "A" benefit of the doubt. People can earn their way into your hearts and lives, or the inverse.
If you are kinder or more forgiving than I, more power to you, but do not let them ruin your life because theirs is already in twisted, hateful pieces.
CousinIT
(9,249 posts)For anything. What makes me mad is that my 89-year old Mom is stuck living with him and she's a Democrat (he USED to be) and HE is evidently an MRA/Limbaugh-style asshole now. Verbally and emotionally abusive jerk.
I HATE that my Mother's last years on this Earth are spent living with an angry white male and living in a country ruled by the likes of SHitler (Trump), and that all the things we as a nation fought for and believe in (except the MINORITY of racists and misogynists) and the nation/America she knew all her life is dead now. And, that her kids will all have to live through HELL to ever get any semblance of America back again, if it's even possible at all. HOW THE HELL is she going to rest in peace when the World such a state as she leaves it?
I live across the country from hateful-ass Republican brother, sister and bro in-law. In brother's case, it's just pure anger and HATE. in my sister and bil's case, it's IGNORANCE.
I had intended to perhaps move near them later in my life. But -- maybe not. Likely not. Not now. Right now, I can't stomach such IGNORANCE and HATE from these people. I'm ASHAMED to be linked to it in any way. They DISGUST me.