puuullleeeeeeze stop saying pence is as bad as cheeto.

[mopinko]

comparing this man to any other person on earth, equating him w any human being who talks in complete sentence is
!!!!!NORMALIZING HIM!!!!!!

just stop it. i understand what a horrible human being pence is, and that he will hold the door open for the same pack of ravening sleazebags as that man.
i understand that we are in for a shit show for the ages either way.

but really people. the difference is one of orders of magnitude.
stop forgetting that.

i am begging you.

[LisaM]

1. I think Pence is as bad for women as DT is.

However, I don't think he's an outright traitor in the pay of the Kremlin, so there's that.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

22. Fair statement... nobody though could possibly be a worse POS than the Fuhrer-Elect!

[Big Blue Marble]

2. You are absolutely correct. N/T

[NCTraveler]

3. I think Pence is a more frightening prospect than Trump.

[Big Blue Marble]

4. No, he is far more predictable.

He has experience in government. He is much less likely to cause a nuclear war.

[mopinko]

6. you are flat out wrong.

this man must be impeached if we are ever to hold our head up again as a nation. that is how bad he is.
if pence is that bad, he will get citizen pushback and the other levers of constitutional control. we can defend against him w lawyers.
yes it will still be a shit show.

but-ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE.

[Eliot Rosewater]

10. Yes but when I say Pence is just as bad it is my way of

illustrating to THIRD PARTY VOTERS and non voters that what has happened to us, in large part because of them, is an irreversible and never ending nightmare and it means total destruction for 50 years.

FIFTY GOD DAMN YEARS if Trump doesnt blow us up first, all just so the private server woman wouldnt be president.



Talk about irresponsible ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE.

[NCTraveler]

16. Pence and Ryan are similar with respect to ideology.

Also demeanor. He will be able to do a lot more than Trump including the continued stacking of the deck across all departments. Their brutality against those who need protections most will come with a warm hug and smile.

That said, I'm starting to think we might see an early impeachment and I'm happy as could be about it. Any impeachment would damage Republicans and take away some of their clout. I would rather have Pence than Trump after impeachment. Pence on his own merits I'm not good with. Nothing in my comments go against the joy I would feel if Trump was impeached.

[yodermon]

30. TPP, or nuclear war. take yer pick

[NCTraveler]

36. Strange choices.

I pick none. Just one of the reasons I voted Clinton.

[underpants]

5. Pence is an ideologue nutcase. Trump has no idea.

You are correct.

[CanonRay]

7. He's not. He's just you run of the mill religious fanatic

with no ability to change or alter his thinking. He's probably not a Russian mole, however.

[Amaryllis]

11. Yes, and also, who would you rather had the nuclear codes? Trump or Pence? Who is the most unstable,

has the least impulse control, is the most reactive? Just saying.

[shenmue]

37. They both suck

[Tommy_Carcetti]

8. Pence is all kinds of horrible but Trump is the ultimate worst

President Pence would not be pleasant at all, but at least I think with him we'll still have a functioning democracy in 2020 where we can send him packing. Plus the stink of Trump on him is going to be major.

Donald Trump has no concept of being able to work in a democracy and is seriously mentally dysfunctional. He is the worst case scenario.

[madokie]

9. You are correct mopinko

pence is a sleazebag in his own right but he is NOT in tRump's league

tRump can not, I repeat CAN NOT be NORMALIZED under any stretch of anyone's sick imagination

[MFM008]

12. I have said Pence is an idiot

a religious nut.
BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

hes standard republican shit.
Not batshit crazy Caligula stuff.
Tweet on his cold gold toilet at 4am
with his golden showers and mental problems
They aren't the same.
Pence also has no base of raving lunatics
I believe Pence would be easier to beat than maggot.

[Warren DeMontague]

13. Pence thinks gay people should get electroshock therapy to "make them straight"

He's a different kind of bad.

Maybe a more known quantity type of bad, a far right jesusbagger bad. But still bad.

[Schema Thing]

14. I agree. It's a stupid lack of nuance. Kind of like the people who say - and really believe

that Trump and Hillary were equally bad.


And save your protestations... I didn't say Pence and Hillary are equivalent. It's the same silly, lazy thinking though. Just our side's version of it.

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. You're right, he's worse.

[WhiteTara]

17. Okay. He's worse.

His evil is banal. His hatred of women is known and he is a slimy little bastard who is behind the scenes killing our democracy as The OrangeAnus tweets bullshit that covers up what is really happening.

[Charles Bukowski]

18. Trump has already damaged this county with his campaign

of bigotry, misogyny, and hate. He is also arguably the single DUMBEST fuck holding elected office anywhere in America right now.

Pence is awful, but Trump is one of the worst tragedies ever to hit this nation, and the psychic wounds caused by this despicable human being will be felt for a long time. He's simply the worst of the worst, anywhere. Ever

[shenmue]

38. Yes

[cynatnite]

19. I only trust Pence on one thing...

That he's not going to go postal during a twitter rant and reach for the nuclear codes.

[mopinko]

20. at least if he ends up as potus, he will be pretty badly damaged, as will

the entire gopeeepee.

[shenmue]

39. I see what you did there

[Adrahil]

21. In some ways, he's worse.

Trump has no beliefs, other than his own ego.

Pence, however, is a demagogue. You will not like what you get if he is President.

I have lived here in Indiana for 13 years. And he was my Congressman before he was the Governor. Trust me, he is BAD.

[mopinko]

23. i said he was bad. i said we were screwn.

but ya know, pres pence is not gonna crash the world economy and crack nato to pieces just by being pres.
our allies are gonna run for the hills. any sane person is gonna start putting their money in their mattresses.

if he survives any more than a few days, we could kiss our planet goodby.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

24. I am the political opposite of Pence on issues, but...

I'd still prefer him over Trump!

Trump is too mentally unstable to handle the nuclear codes!

Pence scored a ZERO for me when I took this quick and painless issues quiz:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Quiz/Quiz2016.asp?quiz=Pres2016

[spanone]

25. pence is bad but in a quasi-sane way, if that makes any sense?

[mopinko]

26. yeah

it does. i mean. nothing actually makes sense. but yeah.

[Dawson Leery]

27. Pence does respect America's place in the world

and will not play nice with the Russkies.

[Vinca]

28. From a woman's point of view, he's just as bad.

Don wants to grab the pussy, Mike wants to secure it with a lock and key.

[Phoenix61]

29. So if the choice is bad

or bad and bat shit effing crazy. I'm all in on bad. Bad doesn't scare me. Crazy? Crazy scares me.

[CaliforniaLove]

31. 2014 just keeps getting further away

It seems like just a little over 2 years ago we were living in 2014, where the idea of such an unacceptable buffoon being in any position of government power was a complete joke to everybody, on both sides of the aisle.

Normalization is an interesting topic.

It seems as if we are truly living life upside down at this point.

[brush]

32. Don't get your reasoning on this at all. trump is bad Pence is bad Ryan is bad turtle man...

Anyway, get the picture?

Why are we even arguing about this?

They are all out to screw us.

[SeattleVet]

33. Pence has the potential to be a lot more dangerous, intentionally.

tRump will be cluelessly stumbling through the motions of being Pee-OTUS. Pence has some government experience and knows how the system works, knows where some of the bodies are buried, and can put pressure on certain people where it counts.

tRump has zero government experience and will make major (and extremely dangerous) blunders, but Pence can do as bad, if not worse, by design instead of it being just a fluke.

[Bucky]

34. They're bad in different ways that can't be quantified

pence is as bad as cheeto.

pence is as bad as cheeto.

pence is as bad as cheeto.

pence is as bad as cheeto.

There. You can't stop me from saying it. Nyah.

[Generator]

35. I agree

Pence is a religious nutwack. Trump is a pure sociopath who I almost fear would bring down everyone with him and not give a shit. A man that asks "If we have nuclear weapons why can't we use them?" America can recover from Pence, I'm not sure about Trump.

(also Trump doesn't even have a pet-the man has nothing he actually loves but himself, even Hitler loved dogs as we know)

[JudyM]

42. You are comparing Pence favorably to Hitler? Really.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

40. Pence is a more conventional threat. And there's value in his not having been voted into office...

...should he ascend to it.

[hunter]

41. I think people overestimate Pence. Sure, in comparison to Trump he seems rational...

... but he's a knob. If he wasn't someone who could be easily manipulated by the Republican puppet masters they wouldn't have accepted him as their candidate for Vice President. He's the party's "Plan B" if Trump crashes and burns.

I think George W. Bush was the modern Republican Party's ideal President. He signed the papers they put on his desk, and he didn't get into too much trouble. They almost certainly had some major dirt on him, just in case, but I'll bet he didn't cause them any serious trouble.

Maybe it's just me, but I find it as painful to watch Pence as it is to watch Trump. Pence gets this look when he says certain things, like he knows they've got him by the balls. George H. W. Bush would look similarly pained at times.

Republican Presidents are part of the team, whether they like it or not.

One of the joys of Obama and Biden is that they are actually leaders, not face men. There's nobody behind the curtain making tough decisions for them.

[Gibs4Bernie]

43. I'm literally shaking at the thought of a Pence Presidency.