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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan someone confirm/clarify this?
So the 35 page dossier that we all read last night, that contains all the juicy stuff like the peeing prostitutes in the Moscow Ritz Carlton, that was authentic in as much that it was actually complied by an intelligence agent. Correct?
The information in the 35 page dossier has not necessarily confirmed or verified, but the document itself is in fact an authentic intelligence document. Correct?
And the 2 page summary that was presented to Trump at the intelligence briefing was in fact a summary of the 35 page dossier that we read last night. Right?
I just want to try to get an accurate sense of what is real. The notion that the 35 page dossier was something typed up by some alt-right neckbeard on 4Chan seems ridiculous and absurd but I want to confirm that what we saw was in fact legit in as much it was the actual intelligence document that was the basis for the 2 page summary.
global1
(25,265 posts)I'm just wondering what else might be floating around out there that we don't know about yet?
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)I am surprised that Obama was never briefed on it and that Trump never had it
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Brian Fallon ?@brianefallon
Today has brought a gush of reporting that outlets knew about and sat on prior to November 8
cc: @GlenCaplin1
https://twitter.com/PaulBlu/status/818985935450894337
Delphinus
(11,840 posts)as I wanted that confirmation too.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Compiled originally for Trump oppo group (sounded like GOP) and then for Dem oppo group.
Our intelligence community says this person has always been credible. The Guardian says he is very credible .
The info contains specific caveats when info is chatter and not verifiable. So people discrediting it on that basis are full of shit.
What's more- 4-Chan and Reddit are totally swamped with trump trolls. Have been for more than a year.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,191 posts)That's what I thought.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)There is a very ugly RW pro Russia and Trump pushback in all stories about politics in all subbreddits. They're really like cockroaches drowning out all the other voices.
It was reading them last spring that I realized some of my friends (as well as people here who ended up founding JPR) were being brainwashed by trolls.
Their schtick now is to pretend everyone but Trump wants war w Russia- same as the situation w the "CIA giving us false intel" when it was actually Cheney.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)one version is the Senator traveled to Europe to get the intel
Ask JEB! I think the Bush family is behind all this
citood
(550 posts)Is that a retired British intelligence agent was hired to do opposition research on candidate Trump...and he put the 35 pages together.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And they do contain disclaimers as to what is not known or even likely verifiable. These gotcha people are full of shit.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Up until a couple of months ago, had you ever heard this?
The term "cyber" has been in regular use for decades, in the right circles... As in, people who build Internet sites, and such.
4139
(1,893 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Or more accurately, "things that sound too weird to be true..."