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erpowers

(9,350 posts)
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:42 PM Jun 2012

"Books that Shaped America"

The United States Library of Congress has put out a list of books that they claim changed/shaped America. What do members of DU think about the list? Are there books you would have left off the list? Are there books you would added to the list?

http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/2012/12-123.html

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"Books that Shaped America" (Original Post) erpowers Jun 2012 OP
Uh, Ayn Rand? HuckleB Jun 2012 #1
Let me join you. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #3
I'd say it did in a negative way. Neoma Jun 2012 #4
It's been overplayed by the whole "equal time" crap on MSM. HuckleB Jun 2012 #15
Didn't Glenn Beck recommend it? Neoma Jun 2012 #19
Terrible is a shape Orangepeel Jun 2012 #5
Yeah, I love that quote, but... HuckleB Jun 2012 #16
I like the floating head of Ayn Rand DBoon Jun 2012 #20
Thanks AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #31
No John Dos Passos? HuckleB Jun 2012 #2
At least Dr. Seuss ChazII Jun 2012 #6
At least they got Kerouac panader0 Jun 2012 #7
I was surprised at the number of fictions that were included. When I started reading I thought I jwirr Jun 2012 #8
''Animal Farm'' and ''1984'' are not on the list. n/t Tx4obama Jun 2012 #9
Orwell was British AnnieBW Jun 2012 #10
Oops, I missed the part that they were only 'American' books :) n/t Tx4obama Jun 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author ChazII Jun 2012 #21
Your except says: ''... books written by Americans ...'' n/t Tx4obama Jun 2012 #22
Oops... ChazII Jun 2012 #27
Where's Joe's Bible? Or the other ones? n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #11
No Sinclair Lewis? What a bogus list. no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #13
I'm reading Babbitt now Mz Pip Jun 2012 #23
bogus for many other reasons hfojvt Jun 2012 #25
I knew that this wouldn't be there, but... MarianJack Jun 2012 #14
Useless. Stupid. Myopic. Vain. Zanzoobar Jun 2012 #17
But still a pretty good list pscot Jun 2012 #26
There are a decent number of progressive writings here DBoon Jun 2012 #18
Where is Alice Walker? EFerrari Jun 2012 #24
Notably absent: Howard Zinn, Noam Chomsky limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #28
Thornton Wilder but no Lillian Hellman. EFerrari Jun 2012 #30
one that wouldn't immediately spring to mind is "Alcoholics Anonymous", but it certainly has HiPointDem Jun 2012 #29
No Poe? surrealAmerican Jun 2012 #32
The only one I would leave off Le Taz Hot Jun 2012 #33

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
5. Terrible is a shape
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jun 2012

Its crazy that such a poorly written delusional crapfest could have a big impact on the country, but hard to deny that it has.

Quoting Krugman quoting somebody:

The best line I’ve ever heard about Ayn Rand’s influence:

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/23/im-ellsworth-toohey/

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
16. Yeah, I love that quote, but...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:49 PM
Jun 2012

... I don't think Rand had that much to do with the damage. I think it would have happened regardless.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. I was surprised at the number of fictions that were included. When I started reading I thought I
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:18 PM
Jun 2012

would find books like Naomi Klein's books.

My favorite is Goodnight Moon. I did not realize it was written in 1947. I still read it to my great grandchildren over and over again. We look for the little mouse on each page.

AnnieBW

(10,440 posts)
10. Orwell was British
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:26 PM
Jun 2012

I think that they wanted American writers. Ayn Rand (gag) qualifies because she was a naturalized citizen.

Although, I'm sure that the Freepers are probably gagging over the fact that that Margaret Sanger's book is on the list. And, I'm surprised to see "Stranger in a Strange Land" on there.

One that I would have included was "The Spiral Dance" by Starhawk. It was one of the seminal (if I may use that term) books on Goddess worship.



Response to Tx4obama (Reply #12)

ChazII

(6,205 posts)
27. Oops...
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:34 AM
Jun 2012

Sorry about that. Sometimes multi-tasking makes my brain go numb. Listening to the radio, watching tv and DU on the Sandusky verdict.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
25. bogus for many other reasons
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jun 2012

Uh, where the fuck is "Looking Backward"?

The preface of that book calls is "undoubtably the most influential book on social reform ever to be written in America."

wiki says "It was the third-largest bestseller of its time, after Uncle Tom's Cabin and Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ.[1] It influenced a large number of intellectuals, and appears by title in many of the major Marxist writings of the day. "It is one of the few books ever published that created almost immediately on its appearance a political mass movement".[2] In the United States alone, over 162 "Bellamy Clubs" sprang up to discuss and propagate the book's ideas.[3] Owing to its commitment to the nationalization of private property, this political movement came to be known as Nationalism, not to be confused with the political concept of nationalism.[4] The novel also inspired several utopian communities."

Further, where is "Progress and Poverty"? 1869

The preface to that book says "It outsold most of the popular novels of the day" and "During his lifetime, he became the 3rd most famous man in the United States, only surpassed in public acclaim by Thomas Edison and Mark Twain.

And "In His steps" "A conservative estimate would be over 22 million copies of In His Steps distributed, the world's record next to the Scriptures."

And Michael Harrington's "The Other America" does not make the list, in spite of the fact that it basically inspired Johnson's "war on poverty"?

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
14. I knew that this wouldn't be there, but...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:43 PM
Jun 2012

...one of my favorite books of all time is E. L. Doctorow's "Ragtime".

Ah, well.

PEACE!

DBoon

(22,383 posts)
18. There are a decent number of progressive writings here
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:57 PM
Jun 2012

I was expecting "Looking Backwards" though and was disappointed that this classic of American socialism was absent despite being a best seller.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
24. Where is Alice Walker?
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:12 AM
Jun 2012

No Margaret Mead. No Ezra Pound or T. S. Eliot. No Vonnegut.

A decent list, though.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
29. one that wouldn't immediately spring to mind is "Alcoholics Anonymous", but it certainly has
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 02:08 AM
Jun 2012

influenced america. i wouldn't have thought of it though.

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
32. No Poe?
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 07:16 AM
Jun 2012

Edgar Allan Poe didn't make the list.

They also chose the wrong cookbook, if you're to believe their stated reasoning.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
33. The only one I would leave off
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 07:35 AM
Jun 2012

would be "The Red Badge of Courage" by Stephen Crane. I was FORCED to read it in high school and hated every sentence. Here's the synopsis: He went into battle. He was scared. He ran away. He felt guilty. The End.

I would add: "The People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn. I'm surprised it's not on there.

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