Sandusky won't last long in jail

[panader0]

Just sayin'.....

[sadbear]

1. What did you have in mind?

[TalkingDog]

4. The general consensus is inmates don't like "short eyes" (pedophiles)

since many of them were abused by adults. They tend to mete out their own sort of justice.

[Drunken Irishman]

6. That and many inmates have children of their own...

[sadbear]

8. Do we endorse this?

Justice belongs to the People. Not some criminal serving in prison with him. The People didn't give Jerry Sandusky a death sentence.

[TalkingDog]

10. I did not say I endorsed it. You asked a question. I gave a realistic answer.

I don't condone it. I don't endorse it. But I can also honestly say I understand the impulse.

The fact that I wouldn't act on it is what gives me my humanity.

[demosincebirth]

11. Good retort!

[CoffeeCat]

43. Right...

... But it is very likely that Sandusky will not last a year. They'll kill him.

I'm no making a case for or against this reality. It's just the way it is.

[mulsh]

52. Why is it that we rarely hear of child molsters being killed in prison?

In fact in 55 years I can only recall reading about one molester being killed in a CA prison. That was an infant murder who was shived at San Quentin about 8 years ago.

Here in CA our biggest newsworthy issue is where registered sex offender parolees live after prison.

A notorious and famous old man who's never been incarcerated will not have a very easy time in the segregation unit.

[panader0]

5. Even cons have some sense of indignity.

Child molesters are the bottom scum in jail.

[XemaSab]

2. Too bad he's not young enough

to enjoy a LOOOOONG sentence.

[Swede]

3. He'll have to be isolated.

What a life. One he richly deserves.

[alphafemale]

21. Yeah. There's no more Death Sentences ala Dahmer that are allowed to happen anymore.

At least not in a High Profile case like this.

But I don't see him living long anyway.

The stress of keeping up his denial in his new circumstances will probably cause him to deteriorate in health very rapidly.

I wish I could say I gave a molecule of sympathy for him.

[teddy51]

7. Sorry, but he will be one of the most protected inmates in prison. My best friend is a retired

Assistant Warden at a Maximum Security Prison, and these guys very rarely are gotten to, according to him.

[2ndAmForComputers]

18. Many people will be disappointed by that piece of information.

Not me. I am relieved by it. I guess that must mean I want to coddle criminals.

[sadbear]

23. I agree

The People have meted out justice and that's the justice Sandusky should get. No one should take that away from the People.

[HipChick]

22. funny how that didn't protect Jeffrey Dahmer

[2ndAmForComputers]

25. Hope springs eternal, I see.

[HipChick]

26. Being realistic...he got clobbered to death with gym equipment

[teddy51]

27. Works for me! What Sandusky did is despicable, to say the least.

[cwydro]

46. One of the pedophile priests was killed in prison too..

I've forgotten his name, and too lazy to look it up. Geoghan or something like that.

[LACarMan]

53. Correct. John Geoghan n/t

[treestar]

63. Did the killer have a good motive?

What if it was just some personal motive of the killer?

Or did the killer have a "pure" motive, carrying out the death penalty against Dahmer specifically for Dahmer's crimes? Nice to know the justice system can be undermined by one of the very people who did not respect it enough to stay out of prison.

[bluedigger]

32. Dahmer was a cannibal.

I mean, that is the ultimate transgression, isn't it?

If it isn't, I don't want to know what is.

I'm SERIES!1!

[CoffeeCat]

44. That priest from Boston...

...who was convicted of molestation was murdered in prison. Others have mentioned Dahmer. I don't even think Sandusky will last a year.

[treestar]

62. Exactly Charles Manson made it all these years

He killed a pregnant woman.

I also don't condone death sentences carried out by criminals. Or rape.

[WilliamPitt]

9. Father Geoghan didn't.

He was my CCD teacher, in fact.

Dodged that bullet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Geoghan#Murder_of_Geoghan

The whole story:

"Over a 30-year career in six parishes, Geoghan was accused of sexual abuse involving more than 130 children."

Makes Sandusky look like a piker by comparison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Geoghan#Sex_Abuse

No. He won't last long, either.

[Gin]

12. IMO

He will kill himself!

[TalkingDog]

15. I'll wager he won't. Too egocentric. He's too important to die, especially by his own hand.

He's the star of his own life. He's "charming" and "intelligent" which is how, in his mind, he seemed to keep getting away with things.

In reality he was part of a money making machine for a University. If he was exposed the money would slow down. So he was propped up. Enabled.

If he kills himself, it won't be immediately, if ever. He'll most likely be a model prisoner, if he lasts that long. Then he'll have some sort of "conversion experience" and the press will be all over him. He feeds off of attention.

[muriel_volestrangler]

48. Egocentric people can kill themselves too

When they're looks at the certainty of the rest of their life in prison, it may be the only act left to them. For instance, Harold Shipman, a British doctor who murdered perhaps 250 of his patients (since he signed the death certificates, the exact number cannot be known), hanged himself in his cell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman . Some of his victims left him money, but some he appears to have killed just because he could. There's no doubt he was egocentric.

[taught_me_patience]

28. I agree

he'll hang himself before jail.

[morningfog]

16. The prison let Geoghan get killed. Probably facilitated it.

[hlthe2b]

13. Well, I hope he goes quickly due to his own health/guilt issues & not as a victim of prison violence

He may deserve everything imaginable, but why on earth would anyone want him to go out as a "victim" in any sense of the word?

[sadbear]

14. +1

Though I think we may be in the minority here.

[panader0]

19. I am certainly not advocating any violence toward that scumbag

But he will have a target on his back, for sure.

[morningfog]

17. I agree. Prison violence by prisoners and by guards, or by prisoners

with the wink and nod from guards should never be tolerated or condoned. Let him serve whatever sentence he is given.

[hifiguy]

30. I hope Sandusky lives to 90.

He deserves to have a long time to reflect on his own monstrosity.

[David in Canada]

47. I agree!

The monster in human shape known as Jerry Sandusky does not deserve the release and peace of death. My wish would be for him to live 1,000,000 years in solitary confinement, no TV, no enjoyment whatsoever. Just 1,000,000 years of continuous, monotonous HELL with only his thoughts to keep him company!

[Irishonly]

56. I agree with you n/t

[upi402]

20. why is RAPE okay in prison?

Seriously, this guy is scum.

Nevertheless, if we send men to prison for rape, why do they get away with it IN prison?

[TalkingDog]

24. Who mentioned rape? Anywhere in this thread.....

Dude, back off with the knee jerk reactions.

[TBF]

29. I think it's pretty clear it was insinuated and/or

other violence ... and it really isn't necessary.

Let him serve out his sentence. I hope it's 60 years for each victim he molested.

I don't agree with condoning violence in prison.

[panader0]

31. Where was it insinuated?

All I know is that cons frown on child molesters. Not condoning violence here, but prison is a very violent place.

[Sans__Culottes]

34. You're skirting the taboo.

And not very cleverly.

[panader0]

36. Please explain what I'm not doing very cleverly???

[Sans__Culottes]

39. I have nothing more to say to you.

[dionysus]

33. i read it as he'd get skanked or beaten to death, not raped...

but who knows.

[Sans__Culottes]

35. "Shanked" n/t

[dionysus]

37. yes, stabbed with an improvised knife.

Edit: OH lol, bad typo...

[Sans__Culottes]

40. Yep, howdy

[coalition_unwilling]

42. I almost alerted on your post for its blatant

sexism

[dionysus]

45. .

[TalkingDog]

41. I will agree that violence was insinuated. But nobody mentioned rape.

That was all upi402's twisted little fantasy.

[TBF]

49. None of it is necessary -

and likely inaccurate anyway. We know how these cases tend to go. He is high profile and will likely be in protective confinement somewhere.

I'm just glad the jury convicted and got him off the streets. Now perhaps the victims can move on. I can't even imagine being in their shoes.

[LynneSin]

38. Earl Bradley has managed to survive over a year but then again he's in his late 50s

Sandusky has about 10 years on him

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Bradley

Bradley was the doctor in Lower Delaware they found out molested over 100 of his patients (he was a pediatritian).

[alcibiades_mystery]

50. People mention Dahmer and geoghan..these are exceptions

By and large, these kinds of convicts go into protective custody and stay there, and very little inmate-caused harm, comes to them.

The idea that child molesters are constantly attacked in prison is just a little fantasy held by people on the outside. They are certainly targets for violence, but over the past 20 years or so, prisons have become very good at reducing violence, especially toward vulnerable populations (like this offender class).

The fantasy (that child molesters are attacked, beaten, and otherwise "paid back" through inmate violence) is now largely mythology, not borne out by any objective metrics. Despite the violent revenge fantasies of the public, most child molesters do their time in relative peace, like other offender classes, and most are released. Clearly, Sandusky will not be released, but the idea that he "won't last long" is just a silly little bit of nonsense. He'll go into a PC unit and live a relatively normal prison life once he is normalized into the routine.

[sorefeet]

54. Thats true

They are kept in PC protective custody OR they would most definately be killed in a very short time if in general population. The prison life will take a toll quickly at his age. I have a friend who has been in 3 times and at 54 years old he said he would NOT go back because it is just too hard of a life mentally and physically. He would rather the alternative of a toaster in the bathtub.

[alcibiades_mystery]

57. Even during the free-for-all days of prison violence

even most sex offenders got through their sentences. The idea that "most would definitely be killed in a very short time if in general population" simply doesn't accord with any set of facts. Has the violence against this class of offenders been reduced significantly over the last two decades? Yes, of course. As has all prison violence. But most sex offenders, and even child molesters, got through their sentences, gen-pop or otherwise, even before violence reduction programs. People getting killed in prison was always much more rare than the popular mythologies imagine it to be.

[SWTORFanatic]

59. Most prison violence (other than fist fights) is related to

gangs/cartels/drugs.

Prisoners don't carry shanks around all the time because they get searched so often. The only make them for hit jobs in inter or intra gang violence.

[JonLP24]

51. I believe he will

First, molesters are segregated from general population since Sandusky he is even more high profile, he'll be more segre grated.

You could point to Dahmer or whoever, but I imagine the numbers of high profile cons living in prison are far greater. Gary Ridgway is still alive and that's 1.

[Shrek]

55. Rick Reilly tweeted about this

[alcibiades_mystery]

58. Let me fix that for Rick...

"Because prisons can be sued..." should be "Because the state has a Constitutional (and moral) duty to protect people in its custody from violence."

[sadbear]

60. +1

[sadbear]

61. I think a college football coach would do relatively well in a prison setting.

Do you know what kind of lives they live during the season? No ordinary person can do what they do when there's football to be played. Prison will probably take no toll on him physically (or even emotionally.) But the tedium and boredom may eventually get to him. I don't know if something like that is fatal, though.